ULTIMA WEAPON

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Originally Posted by Auronhart

I looked it up online, he has 12,000,000 hp.
15,000,000 is not suicide, on average, a powered up Zell can do 600,000 with armageddon fist (if you are pretty good anyways) and Rinoa can do 80,000 damage (using angel wing) probably about 3-5 times each turn Ultima gets. (with haste and Angel Wing makes her attack faster as well) You probably would need to make sure most of your stats were at 255, but that is what makes it a hard challenge. (Maxed stats, and still hard! :p)

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You are one of the many people who were fooled by this number, and yet i am still right, It has 1,200,000 HP COMAPRED to the traditional 9999 damage limit, but as you know in FFX the max damage limit is 99999, thus if you round that | 1,200,000-9999=12,000,000-99999 |

Back to the topic you can't do the 99999 from FFX=9999 from FF8, since Zell's limit can pack 600,000 on average.(and FFX limit breaks are annoyingly slow and don't get celestial weapon bonuses) FF8 characters are only slightly weaker than FFX characters in the damage department if you use them right. (because FFX has Quick Hit, otherwise 8's characters would be better.)

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You are one of the many people who were fooled by this number, and yet i am still right, It has 1,200,000 HP COMAPRED to the traditional 9999 damage limit

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EDIT: Oh, I missed it when you posted the first time. See above for my response. (comparing those hp to the limits is useless, because of the fact that no one uses normal attacks in FF8)

It would be a challenge if it has 170.000.000 HP and each attack would damage 9999 and it would only use magic likle Ultima, Demi and Triple Meteor and even so, it'd be easy, coz my Cactuar steals 10000 HP. Opps, now I remember why it was easy... :D

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Originally Posted by Auronhart

Should the Ultima Spheres be able to revive themselves/be revived by Omega? (would really annoy people :p, but that includes me. :( :). By the way, I don't think this would be a good idea, though you might want to make them have some more life. ) Rinoa would still be faster than him, (you would certainly want to max everybody's speed and have auto-haste on) but she would probably only get 2 turns for his one at best (she certainly would get that sometimes) (another good thing about Angel Wing is that it stops the timer so you can do stuff with the other characters).
EDIT: It is possible that Rinoa's speed might only be increased by angel wing when her speed is not maxed. I tried it out, and it seemed that way. Whatever the case, though, stopping the ATB is actually incredibly useful (you will basically be exclusively entering commands when Rinoa is casting meteor) when your speed is maxed and you have auto-haste on. (Zell should get to use Duel at least every other time she casts meteor) I think it's reasonable to say you could eliminate him in 50-80 of his turns. (including when he uses terra break and causes you to have to heal) Of course he is more likely to finish you off, but that is what makes it a challenge! :D

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Hey, what about the fact that Ultima Weapon could use that demi-based attack that Edea uses when you fight her the final time that causes that "curse" status effect that disables limmitbreaks? Now THAT would be great! :D Also... set Ultima Weapons speed to 255... just for the heck of it. :D And finally... do you remember the enemies who can use "degenerator?"... now THAT could make the battle intressting... if Ultima Weapon use degenerator on 1 of your characters when you've got him down to 50% of his max HP. :) And finally... if you're going to do this remake of FFVIII anyway... why don't change Zells limmitbreak so that the next moves you'll be able to do with
his limmitbreak are random all the time. That would make his limmitbreak more intressting + make Armagedon Fists impossible to do. :D Now THAT would make stuff intressting... :cool:

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Originally Posted by Divinity

It would be a challenge if it has 170.000.000 HP and each attack would damage 9999 and it would only use magic likle Ultima, Demi and Triple Meteor and even so, it'd be easy, coz my Cactuar steals 10000 HP. Opps, now I remember why it was easy... :D

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Ummm... you would have to summon Cactuar 17000 times. :D

Hey, and they should add two Ultima Weapons. Having to fight three of them at the same time would be a great challenge. Of course each of them would have 999.999.999 HP, all stats at 255, and only use Triple Light Pillar and their new special attack disabling limit breaks, removing all junctions, reducing all your characters' stats to 1 and causing all possible status ailments at the same time. Now that would be a challange but probably still to easy for you... :rolleyes2


:p

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Originally Posted by Braindead_Paul

Hey, and they should add two Ultima Weapons. Having to fight three of them at the same time would be a great challenge. Of course each of them would have 999.999.999 HP, all stats at 255, and only use Triple Light Pillar and their new special attack disabling limit breaks, removing all junctions, reducing all your characters' stats to 1 and causing all possible status ailments at the same time. Now that would be a challange but probably still to easy for you... :rolleyes2


:p

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Well... there's only 1 Ultima Weapon. But that thing about reducing stats sounds intressting... if he could reduce the str of your characters by 50% for a couple of rounds, that would be great! :)

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Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow

Ummm... you would have to summon Cactuar 17000 times. :D

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He doesn't even have Boost so if cactuar is with Quistis and their compatibility is 1000 then it'd be easy! I didn't have LionHeart but it was still easy...

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Originally Posted by Divinity

He doesn't even have Boost so if cactuar is with Quistis and their compatibility is 1000 then it'd be easy! I didn't have LionHeart but it was still easy...

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I guess you're joking, right? :laughing: Summoning Cactuar 17000 times IS sucide!!!

If you'll put the GF against u it'll be... but no I'm not joking! I don't remember how many times I used Cactuar on Ultimecia, probably 20!

The difference betweene 20 and 17000 is pretty big... :rolleyes2 :tongue: And don't forget that Cactuar could get slaughtered as well. :tongue: Oh, well... anyone who would try to defeat a 17,000,000HP boss with Cactuar must be crazy! :p
Imagine looking at the summoning animation 17000 times! :eek:

Duh it's Divinity who's speaking!!!!! Of ocurse I'm crazy but what's the hardest bosso on FF8 excpet Ultimecia?

That's a matter of opinion... but i would say Ultima Weapon IS the hardest in the game. Omega Weapon is about as hard as Ultimecia. Maybe a bit easier actually...

where do I found Omega Weapon?

In The Ultimecia Castle.....

Do you see the dark-purple mist inside the chapel (the room with organ inside)??. It's the sleeping Omega Weapon.

Other party should ring the big bell outside the Art Gallery where you fight Trauma, by pulling its rope at the left corner of your TV Screen, the rope is not clearly seen though.

Then u have 45 minutes to switch control to another party who'll fight Omega. If time's up, Omega will sleep again.

Now I understand... thankx!