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YAY!! finally a post that is sensible! "There's really nothing to confirm Vincent being injected with JENOVA's Cells at this time. We simply have to wait for Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus to show us whether or not it is so"...enough with the quote wars already! :tongue:
Wow I never even though of that, I applaud you!! :D He must be immortal then
Ah but they're so fun :DQuote:
Originally Posted by meowwl
My two-cents - I dont think Vincent has J-cells in him, I think he just got experimented on with some screwed up stuff, but NOT the j-cells. thats all.
I think the reason Vince wasn't summoned to the Reunion was that he wasn't a clone like the black caped guys....
I generally agree that there's no solid information that would lead us to believe that Vincent had JENOVA cells in him. On the other hand, there seems to be plenty of reasons why he shouldn't. I'm not going to continue the quote wars by repeating those reason because quote wars are absolutely ridiculous.
I will just say that if Vincent had JENOVA cells, that would have been something that would have been clearly stated as that'd be a very important part of Vincent's character. Optional character or not, they'd have made it clear that he did.
Maybe somebody's already said this in this thread, but I can't be bothered reading through more than the first page...
But..... I've read alot of stuff about Vincent Being Undead or a Vampire or something, which IMO is bullcrap, but anyway, If he doesn't age, then maybe that is why?
I don't know, I don't care, just adding more points.
Vincent was experimented on before lucrecia so most likely he was not given Jenova cells but only square knows
anyway he cant die of any natural causes he can only be killed by murder or decapitation i think
Vincent = not a vampire
im sick of retards who say that honestly he goes into daylight he doesnt suck on cloud and co's blood but he does do other cool stuff vampires do i never watched vampire movies though
He wasn't experimented on before Lucrecia was. It was after Lucrecia seemingly died from complications during Sephiroth's birth that Vincent confronts Hojo in anger and Hojo shoots him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden
Kay, I'm not contesting your point because you're waaay smarter than I am ( :D ) and I think you're right, besides. I just wanted to know where exactly in the game we were told that Lucrecia "died" during Sephy's birth. (When you go to Lucrecia's cave?) It's been a long time since I played through VII, and my short term memory's shot besides--but I'd love to see that again, since apparently I missed it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Squall of SeeD
The implication offered seemed to be that Vincent believed her to have died. She's shown in a flashback collapsing after Vincent says "After that, a child was born to Lucrecia... That child's name is... Sephiroth..." and the manner in which he speaks in the Shin-Ra Mansion's basement would suggest this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nova Briar
Perhaps others interpreted it differently?Quote:
Vincent
"You were also with Shinra...? Then do you know Lucrecia?"
Cloud
"Who?"
Vincent
"......Lucrecia."
(Cloud shakes his head.)
Vincent
"The woman who gave birth to Sephiroth."
Cloud
"...gave birth...?"
"Wasn't Jenova Sephiroth's mother?"
Vincent
"That isn't completely wrong, but just a theory."
"He was born from a beautiful lady."
"That lady was Lucrecia."
"She was an assistant to Professor Gast of the Jenova Project.
Beautiful... Lucrecia."
Cloud
"...A human experiment?"
Vincent
"There was no way to cancel the experiment."
"I couldn't stop her."
"That was my sin."
"I let the one I loved, the one I respected most, face the worst."
Tifa
"So the punishment was sleep? That's weird."
Thanks for the compliment, by the way.
Oh, I see...I thought there was actually a scene/line/whatever in the game that specifically told you that Lucrecia was thought to be dead. But yeah, I can see how one would assume she was dead after that. I never really gave her fate much thought, because I was busy doing other very important things. (*coughdroolingoverVincentcough*) :love: ;) Thanks for clearing that up, though. Oh...and you're welcome for the compliment, which you deserve anyway. ^_^
well Squall I maybe smart but when it comes to Final Fantasy you are the better of all of us and i like the way you dont actually gloat like past arguements on other forums i had and the name calling well thats why i'm here
anyway get away from the sapiness ok okk
what experimentations did vincent actually have?
Thanks again for the compliments, folks. ^^;
Anyway, in response to your question Shoden... that's a good question. We're never really told what Hojo did to Vincent. The best we've got is that the Ehrgeiz instruction manual calls it "anatomic reconstruction," which is far less-than-specific, as it could relate to anything pertaining to Vincent's anatomy, and there's a whole lot of anatomy to tinker with in the human body. Perhaps it had something to do with JENOVA's Cells, perhaps it was to do with random monster cells, perhaps both, or perhaps neither.
The game offers us too little information to make a determination, sadly.
well why dont we raid square enix and force the answers from them they are the only ones who know.
which limit break did you prefer out of the 4?
me Hellmasker
You work out the details, though the chances of snagging Kazushige Nojima, Yoshinori Kitase, and Tetsuya Nomura at the same time are probably a bit smaller than one would hope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shoden
And I guess I preferred Chaos. I didn't really use Vincent much.