Contempory FF games: Over criticised?

well that was definatly worth the 1 and a half hour of readingnow for some posting

i also played X first then i played crono trigger (yes i know ill get to that) after that i played VI then V then VIII .

cant say i played them all but i had my share now my favorite would be X it was great in every aspect of it (for me it was) i liked the characters very much and wel fo rme it was different (i always played iperson shooters and strategie games) well i wanted to play more and through a friend i came upon crono trigger i enjoyed that game verry much so i started with VI and now i think this is truly one of the best ffs ever it was perfectly ballanced. I also enjoyed V and VIII but just not as much

and i want to thank every FF7/cloud/sephirot fanboy for they have ruined the game for me i havent even played it yet and already lost my will because of them i would however like to play 9 sometime unfortunatly i dont own a ps or ps2

and i want to gongratulate you for this was the first time ever i nedded a dictonary here on eoff

No I do not believe the new FF games are overly critized and I don't believe the older FF games are overhyped. The thing you need to look at is the game and the time period it was released. The reason FFI was so amazing and still is today, was because it was awesome for when it was released and had something new to play. The games after that continued in this line, but I don't really think FFII is all that great.

PLUS you said not to play the older FF games because the graphics suck, I hate this argument. I've argued numerous times that graphics do not make a game, and I still hold true to this argument. FFI is still a great game even if the graphics aren't all that amazing, and actually FFIII is also an awesome game with alot of choices and different things to do that I happen to love, one of my top 3 FF games!

Now as for FFVI being considered the best just because of the popularity of FFVII, i believe you're wrong there too. FFVI is a great game because of the numerous amounts of characters, all with their own little story. There is no main character in the game, and don't even say Terra because you can beat the game without even having her in your party. Characters can die, characters do die, including one of my favorites in the game. Everyone made a big deal of the Aeris death, but I felt just as shocked when general leo died, I didn't see that one coming. FFVI is a great game, and it's graphics for the time were even superb. That is why FFVI is my favorite FF game, then FFVII, then FFIII, as a matter of fact...


all in all, if you think the new games are over criticised, look at why...
After FFVII these games had this brand on them that they had to be the greatest game ever, and if one person could have something they didn't like about it, the game sucked. I personally think it's stupid. Because honestly, take any FF game and don't compare them to eachother, but compare them to the other RPGs at the time of it's release, and there is maybe 1 other RPG that compares to it at it's time of release. People need to stop saying this FF game is better than that one because of this, and say, hey, FF games are all DIFFERENT from eachother, but compared to the other RPG i could have gotten FF was the better choice!

THE JACKEL

EDIT: I'd also like to note that by searching google for FF(n) was crap is not a good way of proving your point. i think 90% of "FF Fans" haven't even played the earlier FF, and earlier I mean before VII, and their only real complaint about them is the graphics. Seriously, I've played all of them through X, and I've already stated my top III, weirdly enough, if you want me to list all I've played in order I would!

Just for convenience sake (and because I can't be bothered arguing everything all over again), I have gone through the topic and picked out a quote that pretty much sums up my thoughts on the thread:

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I don’t “hate” all classical FF games, what I hate is how people always assume that anything made nowadays was pathetic compared to something made over a decade ago.

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What I mean by this is, people say that FFI or whatever is MUCH better than FFX, yet when you try to compare the two, people always use lines to the effect of “oh, but you can’t compare them in that area, the game is X years older than that one!” So, my question is, does this mean that just because a game is older, it makes it immune to being scrutinized by contemporary gamers? When someone considers a game like FFX, they will nitpick at every little detail, yet it would seem that because FFI was considered a ‘great game’ in a time when expectations were undeniably much lower, it allows it to bypass all of the modern scrutiny and still be considered as a viable comparison.

So, I propose that if someone states that one game is better than any other, the games should be compared in all areas, regardless of any age differences. In addition, the opinion of “I like FF(n) better because it was the first one I played” should be recognised to be a biased opinion, and in no way as useful as “I like FF(n) better because it succeeds in these areas…”

Or something like that. Can’t remember what my mentality was when I wrote it, maybe I was just trying to start a flame war…

But while I like to rate games based on different categories they are supposed to be fun. You don't need a reason to rate one game higher than another. What it seems like this is headed for is attempts to really compare games on different levels instead of just saying I like this one more. I think both are OK but that both should be recognized as ways of looking at games. I do agree with you though that all games should be rated on the same scale. The thing I'm not sure about (although I do tend to rate games this way) is whether it needs to get to a scale, if people could just say i love both games or this one doesn't work for me, without having to compare categories or attempt to prove one's better that would be nice. However that's so unlikely (reminds me for some reason of the ideas of communism), and doesn't lead to remotely interesting arguments.

Above was kind of my opinion and kind of just another way of looking at this (admittedly maybe not on subject).

I do agree though with what u said and do find that people frequently do say "well u can't rate them on the same scale" which bugs me as well.

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So, I propose that if someone states that one game is better than any other, the games should be compared in all areas, regardless of any age differences. In addition, the opinion of “I like FF(n) better because it was the first one I played” should be recognised to be a biased opinion, and in no way as useful as “I like FF(n) better because it succeeds in these areas…”

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But it will always be biased, as all games will have different feels to them and different ways of developing the characters, which work for different people. It's very difficult to argue that one game is better than another- the closest thing I can think of is game X has more depth than game Y.

As I say at the end of a lot of my posts, I love to ramble.

I agree with everyone

There, no bashing for me. :cool:

I dont like the battle system in alot of the older games either. Or in VIII. VI, VII,IX and X were the best for me.

FF1 is utter CRAP

FF7: To all you “fan-boys” out there: Seriously, curb your enthusiasm a little. I know, it’s a great game, but your annoying the hell out of the rest of us. You got your movie (which looks great by the way) so take it down a notch.


BTW I DONT APPRECIATE YOU LEAVING OUT OBESSED FAN GIRLS OF ff7

People are still reading this? Wow, I thought for sure it was going to die this time...

Anyway, when I say 'fanboys' it's really like saying 'postman'. It can be either gender, but it's easier to classify everyone under then same title. Besides, 'fangirl' sounds lame....

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Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris

People are still reading this? Wow, I thought for sure it was going to die this time...

Anyway, when I say 'fanboys' it's really like saying 'postman'. It can be either gender, but it's easier to classify everyone under then same title. Besides, 'fangirl' sounds lame....

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What are you talking about, arent you the one who just revived it? again?

Yes but from the way it was going, it looked like it was going to die again.

Maybe it should. No one seems to have anything else to say on this issue. I can barley remember what the issue was...

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Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris

I can barley remember what the issue was...

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you liar xD

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Originally Posted by DMKA

Then you ask them how far they got and they say "omg I didn't play that crap for more than 5 minutes!"....yeah.

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me in ffx-2, but, yeah, i stopped because i couldnt take the music. no i wont just turn the sound off, one of the main things i love about ff's are the musical scores.

but you really hit it with the FFVI/VII thing. great post.