...like what?
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...like what?
Dammit, I knew you were going to ask for an example. I dunno, world explosion or something!
And why is a world explosion bad? Because it kills people. Why is that bad? Because life is valued.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupQuack
I'm sure I could come up with some examples of why it would be worth sacrificing some measure of individual life for some vague notion of "the greater good" but I don't think I want to put effort into coming up with vague hypothetical situations.
The "greater good" is the most evil notion impressed on mankind.
I could conceive of giving my life for a cause such as freedom - but since you haven't mentioned that, I assume you realize that freedom is based on the value of the individual.
You're starting to go in circles again.
But there are some things that they should not have much control over. One of these things is the childs body.Quote:
Or why shouldn't they? Parents have a lot of control over their offspring that the children themselves don't have.
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THEY made the decision to make the baby. Until that baby has a mind of his/her own, that embryo/fetus is property. The same justification goes to abortion.
. Total bull
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Originally Posted by Raistlin
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Originally Posted by Raistlin
Kids are property? Awesome, now I know I'm having children.
Something that I think is important is exactly how/when this is done. You see for all we know it could be an injection you take before having sex that does this(I highly.. highly doubt this as likely). But lets say that is how it is done. This I would not have a problem with.
Right after conception. This is, in my mind, the most probable timeframe. If it doesn't harm the child(which to my knowledge it doesn't) it must happen early on. Again here I don't have a problem.
When I do have a problem is when there is a good chance that it will harm or otherwise damage the child.
What the hell? what kind of sick, twisted f@#$ would piece the ears of a five year old?Quote:
Originally Posted by Raistlin
Uhh... A lot of people. It's commonplace for parents to have their infant daughter's ears pierced.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris
Not that I approve. Just sayin'.
I just don't think that we know enough yet to safley do this... It's like giving a five year old fireworks: Somthing bad will prolly happen.
Genetic Alteration is insanley evil and will prolly a hot topic here in a few years. When people are all genetically enhanced to be 'perfect' in the scewed minds of thier parents. Then guess what... hitler won.
Bipper
I didn't see this earlier, but this is just too stupid for me to pass up. Let's break this down bit by bit.Quote:
So, nik0tine - I guess we shouldn't give toddlers a football, because that's choosing something for them. Or we might not want to force kids to go to school, because that is too. And we definitely can't pierce the ears of a five-year-old girl, because that's changing her physically!
That toddler doesn't have to use that football, now does he?Quote:
So, nik0tine - I guess we shouldn't give toddlers a football, because that's choosing something for them.
You can use your head here. Stupid statements like this don't warrent anything other than a rude reply, if that. Great way to twist my words to get your mute point across.Quote:
Or we might not want to force kids to go to school, because that is too.
You're right. No, we can't. That is, if she doesn't go along with it. If mommy and daddy want her ears peirced, and she says no, then that's all there is too it. Mom and Dad need to deal with. Under no circumstance is it okay for a parent to peirce a childs ears without their consent.Quote:
And we definitely can't pierce the ears of a five-year-old girl, because that's changing her physically!
Oh for the love of...Quote:
Originally Posted by bipper
The fact that Hitler attempted eugenics does not make eugenics evil. Any more than the fact that Hitler was vegetarian makes vegetarianism evil. Or hell, Stalin and Hitler both had mustaches! Mustaches must be evil!
HAHa!
No I am just talking about the prefect race. Hitler wanted this above all. Everyone to be full blooded german :) I am just merly saying that if we could alter all the other genetics as well, what is to stop us from making a supposed supirror race? On that I am saying that hitlers view on making the perfect race was evil, not the fact that genetic alteration is evil because he did it.
Thanks for the heads up on vegetarians though! :p
Bipper