yeah well it sucks...deal with it...other honerable suck ass games include arc the lad...er and some more...Quote:
And guys, it's spelt Atelier Iris, not Alter, a game which is clearly successful, as it already has a sequel out in Japan.
and hey singling out alter was a joke dude...but that doesn't mean i don't think it sucked...because it did
In your opinion it sucked, in the opinion of all the people who bought it, and enjoyed it enough to spawn a sequel, it didn't "suck", and I think by sheer majority it pretty much proves your thinking invalid.
Arc The Lad is also another game that was popular enough to have a trilogy, then an extra-release box set, then a further two sequels.
To me the hayday, golden age of rpg's was the originial playstation. Almost every great rpg was realeased or rereleased on playstation: Final Fantasy's through 9, Vagrant Story, Valkyrie Profile, Breath of Fire 4, Suikoden 1 and 2, The two Chrono's, the two Lunar's, Xenogears, Final Fantasy Tactics (sort of rpg), Koudelka, Dragon Warrior VII, Metal Gear Solid (not rpg but amazing story, best of the three by far) I'm probably missing some, but those are some of the greatest rpgs ever, we're never gonna see a group of that many good rpg's one after another ever again, I don't think.
YOU won't see RPGs like that again, because you'll be forever comparing them to the old RPGs, just the same way people who played RPGs on the SNES will forever consider them to be the best.
Those who play all the newer RPGs will hold them to be the best, and so on into the future.
Works with all games.
Sure, it's not blanket for everyone, but it's generally true.
I understand that's probably part of it, people who played ff6 first usually think thats the best of them all, and people who played ff7 first thing thats the best, and usually your first rpg is one your favorites. But also I can think of maybe 5 at most great rpg's on each system, well at least on ps2, xbox has a few, gamecube has zilch, and none of those are even as good as many of the psx rpgs, and I listed off a dozen or so great ones on the psx. So its part nostalgia but it's also fact. It's not that great rpg's arent still being made it was just a time in history when every month like three great amazing rpg's were being released or rereleased, and I still play the psx 90 percent of the time for rpg's. Also I personally like no voice acting, I like just hearing the great music and going around talking to people, plus most video game voice acting is sub par at best with a few exceptions.
Xbox has - Knight of the old republic 1 and 2, Jade Empire, Fable (I guess), Shenmue 2 if you count that as an rpg, ummm
Cube has - .... Zelda (obviously not an rpg but best I could do) ....
PS2 has - Final Fantasy X, Star Ocean, Xenosaga aint bad but not in the same universe as gears, Suikoden 3 same thing as with 1 and 2, Breath of Fire V way too short, Kingdom Hearts wasn't half bad.
Anyway that's how I feel, I'm intersested where rpg's are going in the next gen with sakaguchi gone, and square a mess, and Final Fantasy working its way to becoming the greatest whore franchise in history, what the next gen will bring. (I think I've put too much thought into this.)
The Gamecube has Tales of Symphonia, and it owns. It also has Paper Mario. It still needs more games though.
And Zelda is an RPG.
How is Zelda an rpg?
GC has Baten Kaitos too.
rpgs are i think defined by character control like in development (leveling up etc.)
its nice to see that someone agrees with me...thanks the last ancient.....any way the killer 7 dude also made some pretty good points as well...and i sense anger in some of these posts...c'mon people they're games...save ur passion for something else...and well...the cube has the least amount of rpg action...but zelda and RE4 are enough for some people...i guess
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Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
I started on the old Ultima RPG's in the mid ninties. You could walk around, interact with everything like you could pick up a fork off of a table, watch a baker bakes his bread, follow him all day and see him go to bed at night. I miss that kind of stuff.