Who is reaaaly X?(And some other revelations)

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10-06-2005, 07:14 PM
Future Esthar

"We become what is on our hearts"

The interpretation I give to this lead me to conclude that when shumis are possessed their body became like that of the one who possesses them.

QUOTE]If mass can't change then Propagator's cannot disguise themselves as humans, because there is a definite difference in mass there.[/QUOTE]

Forget the "mass" thingy.

What I mean is that when a young shumi is possessed by an adult the shumi will look like a teenager obviously.

Zone has no pain on his stomach.He has pains on his legs but he is good to desguise it.
10-06-2005, 09:03 PM
Gilgamesh of Legends

Proof? You are not Zone.
10-06-2005, 09:06 PM
Destai

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

"We become what is on our hearts"

The interpretation I give to this lead me to conclude that when shumis are possessed their body became like that of the one who possesses them.

QUOTE]If mass can't change then Propagator's cannot disguise themselves as humans, because there is a definite difference in mass there.

Forget the "mass" thingy.

What I mean is that when a young shumi is possessed by an adult the shumi will look like a teenager obviously.

Zone has no pain on his stomach.He has pains on his legs but he is good to desguise it.

geez thats dumb, Well then why do Zones legs make stomach noises xD?
10-07-2005, 05:16 PM
Christmas

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Unknowns,I had the care to say "young shumi".
Mass can´t change.So Laguna will appear younger of course.
Also,they were smart enough to get a clothe different than the ones they usually dress.
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Why dun you go look at the ending FMV where the young laguna proposed to Raine and compare it to the present Laguna at Raine's grave.

Do they look so different that you cannot recongnize them as the same person.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Guy at the right of the train driver(Forest owls)
A young Shumi possessed by Kyros Seagil.
Objective-To help save Timber.

Kiros had dark skin, do this Shumi have since it take the form of Kiros.

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Master Martine:
A Shumi possessed by Master Laguna Loire.
Objective-To save the world.

Fat instructors at Galbadia Garden:
A Shumi possessed by Ward Zabac.
Objective-To help save the world.

Zone:
A young Shumi possessed by Laguna Loire.
Objective-To save Timber.

Watts:
A young Shumi possessed by Ward Zabac.
Objective-To help save Timber.

So Laguna and Ward possessed two Shumi at the same time? Why not Laguna possess all of them or vice versa.

And Lastly, I said before, Shumi became whatever depend on whether they are bad or good not taking the form of someone who possess them.
10-07-2005, 05:34 PM
Winter Nights

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

What I mean is that when a young shumi is possessed by an adult the shumi will look like a teenager obviously.

Zone has no pain on his stomach.He has pains on his legs but he is good to desguise it.

A) There is no indication whatsoever that Zone resembles Laguna, while there is strong indication that Squall does. Plus, the fact that we see a younger Laguna, everytime Squall and company are put to sleep by Ellone. He doesn't look that different from his older self.

B) The game clearly indicates that he is having stomache cramps. To say that he is pretend that his leg pain is in his stomache is just nonsense. You even hear his stomache gurgle.
10-07-2005, 05:40 PM
Future Esthar

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Why dun you go look at the ending FMV where the young laguna proposed to Raine and compare it to the present Laguna at Raine's grave.

Do they look so different that you cannot recongnize them as the same person.

I was talking about teenagers Unknowns.
And I recognize Zone as Laguna.

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So Laguna and Ward possessed two Shumi at the same time? Why not Laguna possess all of them or vice vers

Team work.Something which relates with his personality.
10-07-2005, 05:45 PM
Destai

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Originally Posted by Destai

Well then why do Zones legs make stomach noises xD?

yeah I still dont get it.
10-07-2005, 06:06 PM
Winter Nights

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

I was talking about teenagers Unknowns.
And I recognize Zone as Laguna.

A)Teenagers usually look marginally like their older selves. Just less aged. He'd look more like alot like Squall, as their resemblence is easy to see. You make it sound like teenagers' facial structure will be completely different, when they get older. This just isn't true.

B)Like most NPCs in FF8, you never see Zone's face clear enough to make the claim that you recognize him as Laguna. And what little you CAN see looks nothing like Laguna.
10-07-2005, 06:22 PM
Future Esthar

You all people thinks (like Squall) that the Owls tears were a bunch of stupid jokers.

But they were genious.
The owls tears were founded by Zone and Watts.
Zone was initially the leader.It wasn´t until they save Rinoa that they pass their leadership to her and the woman who lives at the side of Timber Maniacs.
So,zone is a leader like Laguna.

And no Rinoa is not the stupid child you think she is.

Rinoa was clever to get to the sorceress room and try to offer Odine bangle to Edea.
The Owls tears had planned it long ago.It wasn´t just Rinoa´s idea.

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Well then why do Zones legs make stomach noises xD?

They are good actors.Don´t forget Laguna once made a film.
You don´t realized this but it was Watts who,desguised as a Galbadian Soldier,distracted the other soldiers so that you could get the train to Balamb.And he even runs after it.
Do you think Watts is really stupid to do that things?
It was scenering.Good way to deceive Hyne.
10-07-2005, 06:24 PM
crazybayman

What country are you from?
10-07-2005, 06:35 PM
Winter Nights

Nothing you just said has anything to do with our questions, aside from Zone "acting" a stomach noise.. Which doesn't make any sense at all. A stomach grumbling isn't something that can be acted.

And Laguna isn't even an actor. He took a job in a movie to pay for food on his travels.
10-07-2005, 06:38 PM
Future Esthar

Kyros-It´s good that you don´t look like your father.
Squall was not supposed to look like Laguna,Autumn Rain.

Why are you asking Crazybayman?
10-07-2005, 06:44 PM
crazybayman

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Why are you asking Crazybayman?

Just curious.
10-07-2005, 06:48 PM
Winter Nights

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Kyros-It´s good that you don´t look like your father.
Squall was not supposed to look like Laguna,Autumn Rain.

All well and good, except the Moombas recognize Squall as Laguna.

Kiros making such a statement just paints a picture of the type of friendship Kiros has with Laguna.
10-07-2005, 06:59 PM
Future Esthar

Well,whether a face looks like another is a subjective question.
But looking at their personality it´s easy to spot Z=L.

Many people say that the moomba licked Squall´s blood and call him "Laguna".
Another explanation to this is to say that Laguna sent the Moomba to help the characters scape.

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