Bad grammar.

Sure, I dislike bad grammar, and I do my best to spell things correctly and all that jazz. But I've gotten tired of complaining about it, because everyone makes mistakes eventually--I don't want to make a big deal about something and then eat my own words a few days later. School-wise, I don't make many grammatical errors, and usually can instinctively tell where commas need to go, etc. But I'm horrible at the grammar work itself--identify what's an adverb phrase, an adjective phrase, and so on. I wish now that I'd actually worked hard last year and could still remember that stuff, because I feel like I'm missing an important part of my English education.

i don't really mind someone using bad grammar (online) so long as i can make out what they're trying to say.

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Originally Posted by Shaun

However, I think that there's one group of people who are mainly to blame for bad grammar in today's society... Teachers! I know you're probably thinking "OMG TEACHERS FTW" but seriously, I think teachers are genuinely to blame for bad grammar. When they write stuff like "1960's" or "con's" on the whiteboard, people will automatically assume that this is correct.

Who's with me? I think that all teachers should have some serious improvements with their English skills in general. I mean, I'm seventeen, but I don't make the mistakes that half of these thirty-year-old (or older) teachers make. It's a growing problem, and it's only going to get worse.

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As I am, myself, an over-30-year-old English teacher, I would like to point out that not all of us (nor even half of us) have poor grammar skills. I teach English as a second language here in South Korea, and I feel that correct grammar is the most difficult skill to master. It is not the most important aspect of language, though. Communication is. I do try to point out the serious grammar mistakes that my students make, but would never get as nit-picky as the "Grammar Nazis" that have posted in this thread. Have some sympathy for those international members of EoFF who bravely post here despite their grammatical shortcomings. ;)

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Originally Posted by Shaun

How many errors can you find in all of my posts? Not many.

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After the first half-dozen that I found, I stopped looking. Don't feel poorly, though. Like you said, "Everybody makes a mistake once in a while." :D

Further, with as much as RPH gamers read, there is absolutely no excuse to classify games (mainly RPG games) as a reason for bad grammar.

None of these post are horrible. If you are such a grammar nazi though then why aren't you annoyed by these posts? Why haven't you shown the correct exact spelling of evetyhing?
You seem to keep posting here....

I thought the thought made sense atleast....

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Originally Posted by Hsu

as a gamer i hav exp a lot of predujizzes

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I would propose that EGG should not be affiliated with accidental typos that are bound to occur. Rather, I would propose it be structured to attack those who blatantly mispell words for sheer convenience. Further, it should work to correct those grammar mistakes most often made and educate them.

*Not to mention concentration camps.*

Okay, I'm going to answer as much as I can right now. There's a lot to answer, so sorry if I couldn't reply to your comment.

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Originally Posted by Miriel

Oh god.

I thought Shaun was a girl this whole time.

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What on Earth made you think that!? ;)

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Originally Posted by Leeza

There will be no EGG at EoFF. If you want perfect grammar, join a grammar site. There are members here from all over the world and from all walks of life and some do not have a full understanding of English. You do not know who these people are and they do not need to be critisized for their shortcomings in this area. They are posting at an FF site.

No, I do not like to see a bunch of jumbled text from someone who I think should be able to do better, but I really don't know if they can do better. At any rate, correcting someone's grammar on this site is not necessary because it usually comes off as member moderating or being rude, so it's best to just leave it alone.

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Yikes! Leeza's gone insane! :) Okay, just for our favourite member, Leeza, I will enforce a new policy for EGG. :D

We will check a member's location before we correct anything. If they happen to be from a non-English location, then fair enough. However, there is no excuse for bad spelling and/or grammar otherwise. Being in a forum, we're entitled to have our opinions. We are not violating any rules. We're just doing what's best for the English language. Like I said, we will not correct any who don't speak English as their primary language.

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Originally Posted by Spiffing Cheese

You're English. I'm Welsh. He was suggesting that I owned you there, but, of course, 'everyone makes mistakes', and you type 'without thinking about it'. And, also, I don't believe he was trying to make a point about his grammar, he was trying to make a point that I clearly showed you up. xD

Yeah; I think you're over the top with the obsession with grammar. So somebody doesn't have perfect English... does it really matter all that much?

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Yeah, maybe you did show me up. Fair enough. But like I mentioned, it was only a typographical error, like most of my errors. To EGG, it does matter. Shorthand, and bad spelling/grammar is slowly but surely damaging the English language. We're helping. Not much, but just a little bit.

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Originally Posted by Ouch!

I'm affectionately called the grammar Nazi of my high school paper. Despite my intense interest in making the world a more grammatically sound place, I would never be able to support a revival of the EGG.

I am bummed out that I missed it the first time around, though.

By the way, it's a throw back to much earlier in the thread, but Jesus' is the correct possessive form of Jesus. Biblical names and other wellknown ancient historical figures with names ending in s just take the apostrophe.

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I don't remember mentioning anything about Jesus' spelling. Or was that someone else? Anyway, it's a shame you can't help. You certainly seem skilled enough. I am sure there are plenty of other members with the sufficient skills who'd like to help.

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Originally Posted by Samuraid

Wut rly bothrs me is wen ppl dun type wel lik this.

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Agreed. In fact, there's one exception to the rule of not correcting non-English speakers. If anyone writes in total shorthand, it shall be corrected. We aren't ridiculing people. We're helping them.

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Originally Posted by Dignified Pauper

Um, excuse me, but by limiting my option to restart EGG aren't you being more like Shinra and rude!? I'm offended. It's probably because I'm gay. I should sue.

Further, I shall also add that if you can't speak English well, then don't. I can't speak German well, so I don't. I can manage, but I find it disrespectful to try to communicate with people without knowing how. Luckily, we don't have anyone completely illiterate at English, so this shouldn't be a problem.

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Too right. :) As mentioned above, however, we'll change the rules a little. Yes, I don't believe many members of EoFF are completely illiterate, but we'd focus on those who are (and speak English as their primary language).

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Originally Posted by Despotus

As I am, myself, an over-30-year-old English teacher, I would like to point out that not all of us (nor even half of us) have poor grammar skills. I teach English as a second language here in South Korea, and I feel that correct grammar is the most difficult skill to master. It is not the most important aspect of language, though. Communication is. I do try to point out the serious grammar mistakes that my students make, but would never get as nit-picky as the "Grammar Nazis" that have posted in this thread. Have some sympathy for those international members of EoFF who bravely post here despite their grammatical shortcomings. ;)

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Originally Posted by Shaun

How many errors can you find in all of my posts? Not many.

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After the first half-dozen that I found, I stopped looking. Don't feel poorly, though. Like you said, "Everybody makes a mistake once in a while." :D

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You must have a sharp eye, Despotus. I'm not saying that all teachers make grammatical errors. English teachers obviously excel at English. Many others though - in England at least - don't. I've experienced being handed a paper with numerous grammatical errors too many times. As for international members, of course I feel sympathy. Like I mentioned before, we'll go easy on 'em. I just forgot to mention this earlier.

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Originally Posted by Dignified Pauper

I would propose that EGG should not be affiliated with accidental typos that are bound to occur. Rather, I would propose it be structured to attack those who blatantly mispell words for sheer convenience. Further, it should work to correct those grammar mistakes most often made and educate them.

*Not to mention concentration camps.*

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Accidental typos are fine; we all make them. I just truly believe that for English speakers, there is no excuse for bad grammar. Also, yes, the main focus is to educate any who make grammar mistakes, simple or complex. Leeza and co.: we're not trying to harm anyone at EoFF. We just want to make it a better experience for everyone.

I will make some sigs for EGG soon, provided that enough people want to help out.

Marick makes me happy in the pants.

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Originally Posted by Dignified Pauper

I would propose that EGG should not be affiliated with accidental typos that are bound to occur. Rather, I would propose it be structured to attack those who blatantly mispell words for sheer convenience. Further, it should work to correct those grammar mistakes most often made and educate them.

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Originally Posted by Shaun

Accidental typos are fine; we all make them. I just truly believe that for English speakers, there is no excuse for bad grammar. Also, yes, the main focus is to educate any who make grammar mistakes, simple or complex. Leeza and co.: we're not trying to harm anyone at EoFF. We just want to make it a better experience for everyone.

I will make some sigs for EGG soon, provided that enough people want to help out.

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I'll help with the "education" process. We also have to remember that there are several different dialects of English, so that should be a deciding factor on when to correct, w/e. Education is the important part. I suppose we should PM Shaun if we want to help, provided that the Mods/Admins will let us form the EGG.

Yummy EGG centers. Full of cholesterol and nerve gas.

Oh, good GOD, shoot me now.

*bam*

All that was left was his blood on my hands.

An a r34l b4d c4se 0f pour grammur, 101.

Haha, glad you're having fun. :p Sure, feel free to help, Tavrobel. Just provided that Leeza's okay with it (she should read what I said above).

3ye wil sho 3v3ry1 teh awws0men3ss of g00d grammur!

im new to this website and i was wondering these lil :choc: some are black what does that mean? :D