most powerful FF villain.

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Originally Posted by The Crystal

I heard that Neo Ex-Death(that is the Void itself) can destroy the entire universe. Someone can confirm this?

And Forsaken Lover, normal Kuja cannot create the Black Mages without mist, and Super Trance Kuja cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without the Original Crystal. Okay, maybe he was capable of controlling the power of the Crystal because he is a powerful mage, but the fact is: He cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without it, meaning that the Crystal is a plot device and is NOT PART OF KUJA'S POWERS. If you put "Super Trance Kuja using the power of the Original Crystal", then yes, he is the most powerfull of them all, but if you put "Super Trance Kuja" he probably isn't.
Kuja using the Crystal was the same thing of him, using the Invincible. You will say now, that he can destroy entire cities just because he was capable of controlling it?
Kuja didn't absorb the Crystal, meaning that he is NOT capable of doing this things BY HIMSELF.

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Trance Kuja STILL totally outclasses all the other villians, by being able to cause, soley under his own power what is by definition is teraton minumum level event, IE: Planet glassing.

None of the other villians actually come close to this. X-death's demonstrated acts are incredibly iffy, in that anything sucked into the X-zone was not destroyed, and that the X-zone, like Star Trek's subspace, is a pre-existing handwavium.
Post compression Ulty would have beaten Kuja, since she, as mentioned, previously, would have been reality. Problem is, she never achieved her goals, and aside from the 'your most powerful thought' wank that people like to pull (despite the heavy evidence that Griever was a pre-existing GF), she really didn't do a whole lot of impressive things. It doesn't help matters that in game battle is generally useless for these purposes.

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Originally Posted by Ryushikaze

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Originally Posted by The Crystal

I heard that Neo Ex-Death(that is the Void itself) can destroy the entire universe. Someone can confirm this?

And Forsaken Lover, normal Kuja cannot create the Black Mages without mist, and Super Trance Kuja cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without the Original Crystal. Okay, maybe he was capable of controlling the power of the Crystal because he is a powerful mage, but the fact is: He cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without it, meaning that the Crystal is a plot device and is NOT PART OF KUJA'S POWERS. If you put "Super Trance Kuja using the power of the Original Crystal", then yes, he is the most powerfull of them all, but if you put "Super Trance Kuja" he probably isn't.
Kuja using the Crystal was the same thing of him, using the Invincible. You will say now, that he can destroy entire cities just because he was capable of controlling it?
Kuja didn't absorb the Crystal, meaning that he is NOT capable of doing this things BY HIMSELF.

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Trance Kuja STILL totally outclasses all the other villians, by being able to cause, soley under his own power what is by definition is teraton minumum level event, IE: Planet glassing.

None of the other villians actually come close to this. X-death's demonstrated acts are incredibly iffy, in that anything sucked into the X-zone was not destroyed, and that the X-zone, like Star Trek's subspace, is a pre-existing handwavium.
Post compression Ulty would have beaten Kuja, since she, as mentioned, previously, would have been reality. Problem is, she never achieved her goals, and aside from the 'your most powerful thought' wank that people like to pull (despite the heavy evidence that Griever was a pre-existing GF), she really didn't do a whole lot of impressive things. It doesn't help matters that in game battle is generally useless for these purposes.

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It's okay. Maybe you are right, maybe not. But what i want, is Forsaken Lover to understand that Kuja is not a reality manipulator.

My 2 gil.

FFI: Garland was an impossible, it was hard to understand his motives or why he was the lucky person to become Chaos, in the remakes, it goes into further detail, but the fiends revive him and he revives the fiends, the time paradox will eventually break(and does), how Garland believed his methods would work was beyond my understanding.

FFII: I'd rate Emperor among the best, due to his powerful attempts to destroy those who didn't surrender, he used the Warship/Dreadnought, turned Leon against his friends, he controlled a cyclone to destroy what the Warship/Dreadnought couldn't, and finally gave the final test...in death...in the original Pandaemonium.

FFIII: From what I've heard Zande is insane.

FFIV: Zemus is power, pure and simple, in his own sleep, he can control Golbez and turn him against his brother and the world. Through this, he was successful in getting Golbez to release the Giant of Bab-il, a powerful machine, and after the Giant failed, Zemus had a showdown with Golbez and FoSoYu and died only to be reborn as pure hatred. As Zeromus, he could tear up the heros(if you weren't careful) Big Bang did damge and slip damage, mix with a Weak/Tornado spell, and a hero is instantly down. Black Hole disabled special benefits so you truly have to be prepared to face this fiend.

FFV: X-Death had a bizarre vision, first off, I didn't care for FFV due its lack of interaction. And X-Death's vision was to take the Void, Envo tried that long ago. How he does plan succed where Envo failed? It never mentions different tactics he tried to use to try to contain the Void, his final form, Neo X-Death is powerful.

FFVI: Kefka is one of the greatest and most sadistic villains I've seen. He poisons rivers against orders, takes Espers by the dozen, and after taking the power of the goddesses, he decides to ruin entire continents from the comfort of his tower built literally from scraps. The sad thing is Kefka is a god with the power of three goddesses so why did a group of mortals manage to beat him?

FFVII: Sephiroth: The look, the weapon, the dialogue, the motive. Sephiroth is one insane momma's boy. His power of using his opponent's emotions is incredibles, emotions are a powerful weapon. The Meteor was a great touch too.

FFVIII: Ultimecia, controls Edea, and then she controls Rinoa(like that's hard) the actual battle against her wasing impressively annoying. I was like, "I have your patterns down, DIE!"

FFIX: I will never truly consider Necron the main villain. Kuja is evil, he wastes thousands of lives, encourages the stealing of Eidolons from summoners, turns the stolen Eidolon against its thief, and turns on allies, only save his own selfish ass. When you break it down, this guy gives scum a bad name, and that's what I like in a villain.

FFX: Seymour is- *Drops on keyboard bhhn b nhighlvn hbvgbh ghhb vv ghb vgvg * Wh-what's the question?

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I heard that Neo Ex-Death(that is the Void itself) can destroy the entire universe. Someone can confirm this?

And Forsaken Lover, normal Kuja cannot create the Black Mages without mist, and Super Trance Kuja cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without the Original Crystal. Okay, maybe he was capable of controlling the power of the Crystal because he is a powerful mage, but the fact is: He cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without it, meaning that the Crystal is a plot device and is NOT PART OF KUJA'S POWERS. If you put "Super Trance Kuja using the power of the Original Crystal", then yes, he is the most powerfull of them all, but if you put "Super Trance Kuja" he probably isn't.
Kuja using the Crystal was the same thing of him, using the Invincible. You will say now, that he can destroy entire cities just because he was capable of controlling it?
Kuja didn't absorb the Crystal, meaning that he is NOT capable of doing this things BY HIMSELF.

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No. I will say Kuja can destroy entire cities and planets because he did do this. He can destroy a planet. That's fact. You demean it but I could give a crap because he did destroy a planet and nothing you can say is provable that he couldn't do the same to another planet. And, maybe he did use the Crystal's power to create Memoria. You know what that means? He can cross entire dimensions and space. If he can get to the Crystla World just on his own power, he is punching his way through dimensions. I count that as impressive.

And do you know he used the Crystal to make Memoria?
Let's see...if he did, he cross entire dimensions to reach the Crystal. If he didn't, he spawned a pocket world with his own power. Impressive. Not to mention all those Silver Dragons and Deathguise didn't come out of nowhere. How do you know he didn't make them on his own without the Crystal?

And again, a person who writes a novel gets full credit for writing the novel. If a perso paints, they get credit. No one degrades what they did because it was something they accomplished. Kuja used some implements along with his own power which is proof how strong he is. It also called for genuine black magic to be combined with the Mist to make the Black Mages. So...Kuja got that from somewhere. You simply keep trying to degrade him. It's really annoying.

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Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover

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I heard that Neo Ex-Death(that is the Void itself) can destroy the entire universe. Someone can confirm this?

And Forsaken Lover, normal Kuja cannot create the Black Mages without mist, and Super Trance Kuja cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without the Original Crystal. Okay, maybe he was capable of controlling the power of the Crystal because he is a powerful mage, but the fact is: He cannot create Memoria and the chaoses without it, meaning that the Crystal is a plot device and is NOT PART OF KUJA'S POWERS. If you put "Super Trance Kuja using the power of the Original Crystal", then yes, he is the most powerfull of them all, but if you put "Super Trance Kuja" he probably isn't.
Kuja using the Crystal was the same thing of him, using the Invincible. You will say now, that he can destroy entire cities just because he was capable of controlling it?
Kuja didn't absorb the Crystal, meaning that he is NOT capable of doing this things BY HIMSELF.

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No. I will say Kuja can destroy entire cities and planets because he did do this. He can destroy a planet. That's fact. You demean it but I could give a crap because he did destroy a planet and nothing you can say is provable that he couldn't do the same to another planet. And, maybe he did use the Crystal's power to create Memoria. You know what that means? He can cross entire dimensions and space. If he can get to the Crystla World just on his own power, he is punching his way through dimensions. I count that as impressive.

And do you know he used the Crystal to make Memoria?
Let's see...if he did, he cross entire dimensions to reach the Crystal. If he didn't, he spawned a pocket world with his own power. Impressive. Not to mention all those Silver Dragons and Deathguise didn't come out of nowhere. How do you know he didn't make them on his own without the Crystal?

And again, a person who writes a novel gets full credit for writing the novel. If a perso paints, they get credit. No one degrades what they did because it was something they accomplished. Kuja used some implements along with his own power which is proof how strong he is. It also called for genuine black magic to be combined with the Mist to make the Black Mages. So...Kuja got that from somewhere. You simply keep trying to degrade him. It's really annoying.

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I'm not trying to degrade him. Hell, he is my favorite FF villain. But i know what a plot device is. Kuja didn't create Memoria and the other monsters by himself and this is a fact. I'm not saying that he isn't powerfull, but you are trying to make him more powerfull than what he really is.
To me, exist a difference between power and resources. Kuja was a guy with many good resources(the Invincible, Black Mage army, was the ruler of Treno, was a "friend" of a powerfull queen, have a palace in the desert, in the end of the game has controll over the Original Crystal, etc). But he was powerfull too(survived Bahamut's attack, "destroyed" a planet, etc).
Kuja has resouces and power but you cannot say that both of these things are the same. A power is something that someone allways have with him/her. A resource is something that someone don't have inside him/herself but can use in his/her favor sometimes.

ff7 emrald wepon the hardest by far

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Originally Posted by Jqsh

ff7 emrald wepon the hardest by far

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Originally Posted by boys from the dwarf

which FF enemy do you think is the most powerful. by most powerful i dont mean "whos the hardest to beat." i mean in your opinion who is the most powerful.

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Not to mention I was unaware Emerald was a "villain."

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Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover

Not to mention I was unaware Emerald was a "villain."

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My thoughts exaclty.

im sure Sephi could have. . .

It's all about opinion.
Some people think that Kefka is the most powerfull because he could have exploded the world, but didn't want to do it. Some people think that is Sephiroth because when he was in his Seifer form, he only used 50% of his power in the battle, because he was using his other 50% to hold Holly(this is what they said). Some people think that is Ultimecia, because she is capable of absorbing reality itself. Some people said that Neo Ex-Death could destroy the universe. And some people says that is Zeromus, because he is the incarnation of evil.

The truth, is that we will never know.

Then some people say it's Kuja 'cause he could destroy a planet in minutes and cross dimensions and take shots from the King of Dragons with only a scratch. Shame Sephiroth so pathetically weak his move to gain power not only failed completely anyone could have used Meteor if they had the Planet's power behind them.

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FFVI: Kefka is one of the greatest and most sadistic villains I've seen. He poisons rivers against orders, takes Espers by the dozen, and after taking the power of the goddesses, he decides to ruin entire continents from the comfort of his tower built literally from scraps. The sad thing is Kefka is a god with the power of three goddesses so why did a group of mortals manage to beat him?

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these "mortals" had the power of the esperse. kefka was in control of a lot of magicite, the power of the statues so nearly all the magic in existence apart from the magicite that the party uses.

Ultimecia had the power to tinker with the laws of the universe whenever she pleased. That's pretty powerful right there.

I think she's the most powerful FF villian. Though Kuja comes in at a close second...

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Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover

You simply keep trying to degrade him. It's really annoying.

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You simply keep trying to upgrade him. It's really annoying.