Hanako is a voteless townie. That's all there is to it.
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Hanako is a voteless townie. That's all there is to it.
YES
[M] Mitsuo (3) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -
Five hours, laides and gentlemen.
Makes sense. Glad we didn't lynch her then!
He said yeah, he did, and we've speculated that since it was three before Hanako voted and three after Hanako voted, that she must be a voteless townie!
Actually I did some research. Apparently the ability to not vote is not only limited to the townies.
I will be unable to be here for the end of the day, so I'm putting my vote back on Mitsuo. No chance of a speed lynch at this point, considering there is only 4 hours left, Hanako is voteless, a d Tanaka is MIA.
##Vote: Mitsuo
It seems that Mitsuo has been slipping past the lynch each round, is it luck/coincidence or is there more to it?
##VOTE: [M] Mitsuo
I guess we'll find out soon enough.
It wouldnt make sense for her to not have a role if she can't make a counting vote, because then it wouldn't be fair for Igor to give us votecount.... I don't know if she's mafia or not, if I don't get lynched tonight I will investigate very carefully. And before any one gets pissy at me, I am not roleclaiming cop, I am saying I will weigh the probabilities very carefully. By the way Kanji, I know you won't get lynched, but I am keeping my vote on you because I highly doubt there was legitimate reason to turn on me.
I meant the contrary. That means that she can be anything.
Actually, I could vote whatever way I feel without justification. I mean, yes, it looks bad on me but I can bandwagon or vote however I want without discussing it.
Just because you say you're innocent doesn't make it true. :/ Then again, same goes for everyone else.
Which reminds me, I need to dig through the voting records...
[M] Mitsuo (5) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako, [M] Tanaka, [M] Kanji
[M] Yukiko (3) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (1) - [M] Mitsuo
[M] Daidara (0) -
Just under four hours, guys and gals.
I would plead with the town, please vote Yukiko. Kanji and Mitsuo, could you not put your differences aside for this vote and help me lynch Yukiko for the good of the group?
No offense doll face, but 2 out of the 3 lynches that happened, the people you voted for were lynched and were not Mafia. You have a bad track history. :/
Sidenote: I have 3/4 of my needed data gathered. Just need to finish it then compile it but I must be off to work first!
I just realised, the other day, you guys said that one guy was killed probably because he was on the right track. He said I was innocent. And thoughts, or have you guys decided he was a crackpot?
Dammit... Mitsuo is so going to be hung... I hope you guys are right.
wouldnt
It would put her in a tie with you and give us more time to convince others to join us. Besides, how can you insinuate you are vital to the towns survival and then willingly allow the bus to run you over? Your vote on Kanji means nothing, he will not be lynched since nobody else has joined you in voting for him.
Grr... fine. But I swear if Yukiko flips town, you are next Rise.
##unvote: kanji
##vote: yukiko
I've already promised I'd give myself up for the lynich if I am wrong, Mitsuo.
Two hours left.
*yawn*
Where did yesterday's excitement go guys?
Also, I want to correct and assumptions made earlier, my role is not definitively vital to the town, but lets just say the mafia would very much like to get rid of me in case they make a mistake
You're either speaking the truth or getting us all mindsmurfed.
Don't let him confuse you Kou, suffice to say that his tie is preventing some oxygen to his brain. Now if only Daidara would vote for Yukiko, we would have a majority, but I suppose I shouldn't hold my breath. Or maybe Kashiwagi or Daisuke will post again and be convinced not to vote for Hanako
[M] Mitsuo (5) - [M] Namatame, [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako, [M] Tanaka, [M] Kanji
[M] Yukiko (4) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou, [M] Mitsuo
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (0) -
[M] Daidara (0) -
Less than two hours left.
Damn, I forgot about Tanaka's vote. *sighs*
About an hour left.
:dread:
looks like I be gone! oh noes
About 45 minutes, guys
OK, it's hard to believe that I might know what I am talking about, since I have admitted being new to the game, hence my agreement to the sacrafice, so I have looked up some of Naoto's posts to see if I can get any support fom our cop. I looked at how she voted and I see on the first and second day she voted for Shu. This makes me think that she investigated Shu and got a guilty answer, which makes me believe that there might be a Framer Mafia character in our midst. She also voted for Souji which makes me believe that on the day of the investigation the Wildcard status was showing as guilty. I would prefer to believe that these are the reasons and not because Naoto was a "naive" cop. Having said that, Naoto was suspicious of Yukiko as well, I am not sure she had a chance to investigate, but the suspicion is there. I see that she was also suspicious of of Chie who is dead, and Hanako, who is pretty much proven a voteless townie (sorry Kou, I looked but I didn't find any Mafia role that might be voteless as well). That just leaves Yukiko and Namatame and of the two I obviously believe Yukiko is Mafia scum.
I hope I am in time and that Kashiwagi and Daisuke will come and be convinced. :|
well unless someone speaks up for me real soon, Im gone!
AEGH!
This is true Tanaka, but it was due to inexperience, I would hope I would learn from my mistakes. This is why I pulled away for awhile, so I could take the time to really try and figure out how to read characters and their postings. I believe my track record is about to improve.
20 minutes.
Okay, hang on. I need some more time to read through what I've missed.
##Unvote: Mitsuo
Please, no one vote for a little while, so I can read over what I've missed.
[M] Mitsuo (4) - [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako, [M] Tanaka, [M] Kanji
[M] Yukiko (4) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou, [M] Mitsuo
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (0) -
[M] Daidara (0) -
Also, sorry for forcing a tie, Igor.
Fifteen minutes, everyone.
It's not a tie Mitsuo has 5 and Yukiko has 4...
10 minutes left.
I unvoted, thus Mitsuo only has 4, and so does Yukiko.
Five minutes, bitches. Unless someone votes or unvotes, we got ourselves a tie.
Okay, if I no one turns up to sway me in the next five minutes, I'll go with my gut and put my vote back on Mitsuo.
Namatame, I present my case, please believe me and vote for Yukiko.
2 minutes, guys.
Oh yeah, Hanako... Haven't you read any of what Rise has said. Or even my point of view? Yukiko was all about lynching an inactive and set her sights on Hanako, then at the last minute she takes out her vote, forcing a tie, and making someone else break it. To me that all seems suspicious. Why would do that? Why not stick to her opinion, unless it was all a ploy to kill a townie?!?
Namatame, Naoto was not suspicious of Mitsuo. Don't you think he would have been the first to be investigated with the bad press he was getting?
*holds on to Rise*
We got ourselves a tie, guys.
Okay, just give me five more minutes. I'm gonna read over some of Rise's posts about Yukiko and then I'll make my decision.
Mitsuo can you not even tell us the name of your role?
[M] Mitsuo (4) - [M] Yukiko, [M] Adachi, [M] Hanako, [M] Tanaka, [M] Kanji
[M] Yukiko (4) - [M] Nanako, [M] Rise, [M] Kou, [M] Mitsuo
[M] Hanako (2) - [M] Kashiwagi, [M] Daisuke
[M] Kanji (0) -
[M] Daidara (0) -
Votes still stand.
Make up your mind man. And where are the others? -.-
Look at Naoto's posts, in the beginning she said Mitsuo was suspicous, but then she doesn't say anything more. My belief is she found out he was not Mafia.
I believe we're going to need an extension.
If town loses, I lose
Okay. I've decided. I hate the fact that it's up to me to decide, and please forgive me if I'm wrong.
##Vote: Yukiko
I'm really sorry, but I feel like this way, even if I'm wrong, we have something of a lead tomorrow with Rise.
Please let this be the right decision!
Punisher?? Does that even exist? o.o
OMG *clings to Mitsuo*
Yukiko seemed so sweet and innocent, so when a bullet passed through the window of the Amagi Inn, no one knew who could have done it.
It's good, though. Yukiko was a real bitch.
[M] Yukiko was a Mafia Goon played by Jessweeee!
Thanks Jess!
Night 4 starts now. Sned your night actions in in 24 hours.
Hanako was tired of the people making fun of her weight. She had it with them, so that's why she had decided to barracade herself locked in her own home, away from the mean people. Sadly. her home was engulfed by the fog that it disappeared.
Hanako was a Voteless Townie, played by ~*~Celes~*~ & Shattered Dreamer. Thanks for playing!
Tanaka was late for a meeting. He had planned to take train, but as he was waiting, an avid fan of his accidently pushed him into the path of a moving train. He was immediately killed on contact.
Tanaka was the Bus Driver, played by The Summoner of Leviathan. Thanks for playing!
Day 5 starts now! It shall take 6 votes for a majority. 24 hours till end.
2!? WHY 2?!
##Vote: [M] Mitsuo
Hello Mr Serial Killer. Time for you to die, I feel.
Adachi-san, how do you know it's him?
Dojima sama taught me how to spot dirty types! I'll leave you to mull on that while I go to bed. It's half 2 in the morning and I need my beauty sleep!
Okay... So there is 10 of us left... I don't know where to start, or who to look at.
Hi guys. Let's not waste any time. We're down to 10 players. Let's suppose there's 3-4 mafia out there. 2 deaths means there's also a third party. This day is going to be decisive. Lynch a town and they're going to outnumber us!
Yeah right! We need to get another scum! God I hope we do.
We have to find the serial killer today! Top suspects : Adachi, Mistuo, and Namatame. Spoiler for p4 game :p : (SPOILER)Gameplay wise that's what they are, except for maybe Namatame. It's not supposed to be THAT accurate.. Half of the players have had roles that are connected to their game character. It's not such a ridiculous thought at this point right?
I guess not. I never played P4 so I don't know. i only ever played the first one, but never beat it. Is this the reason you're voting for Mitsuo?
It does seem strange that Mitsuo claimed to be a character that I could not find an equivalent to in the "Mafia Roles" page. I don't know Nanako, he may not be Mafia, but that doesn't mean he's one of us. It reminds me of the character Wednesday in the Addams Family Movie when asked about her Halloween costume, "I'm a homicidal maniac, they look just like everyone else."
I haven't voted yet. Most likely yes.
Just over 22 hours.
[M] Mistuo (1) - [M] Adachi
He was really quick to vote, and without enough reasoning. And he seems a bit too sure that Mitsuo is the Serial Killer... I'm sorry Adachi... :(
##VOTE: [M] Adachi
Finally some posts. Wake up people :p.
I don't know about Adachi and Namatame, but Mitsuo has given me a lot of reasons to vote for him now.
- His roleclaim was utter crap. Punisher? Wth? He didn't even reveal if he had done anything with that role. I think it was a desperate attempt to save himself.
- He did not vote for Yukiko when he was in danger of a lynch. He dragged on and on about not having enough evidence and all, which was complete nonsense. A townie (or mafia for that matter) would logically vote for the other member with most votes to save themselves right? It's the logical thing to do. However he decided to put on that show on acting innocent and undecided, when we all knew that he was voting for Yukiko in the end. Perhaps to save himself from suspicion?
- Also Tanaka and Hanako who voted for him are both dead. I doubt he'd target Hanako since she was pretty harmless but who knows.
- It's a minor reason but it might be a character related role.
Therefore ##Vote: [M] Mitsuo. for now.
Now that I think about it, this is going to be quite fun. Townies and mafia alike do not want the serial killer around. We might get a little help from the mafia even. Catch my drift? :p.
:lol:
I am the punisher, I think it's related to the comic books
Dude if you had voted Rise nothing would have changed. Your only choice was Yukiko!
No I'm saying that I decided if Rise was lying, then Rise had to be next. However, since she was right, then she isn't. It's a new day, a new mystery, and we still have no clue if the cult exists
It still proves nothing.
We can say that the cult does not exist now. If it had existed than you'd think that they've recruited a bunch right? However no cult has ever shown up dead. And there's been many deaths.
Look there's three outcomes this day is going to have :
- We hang a townie. : 2 deaths the next day.
- We hang a mafia. : still 2 deaths the next day.
- We hang a serial killer : one death the next day.
We're near the end. Two deaths is too much for us to handle. Perhaps we will automatically lose by being outnumbered.
And sadly, I don't have any other solid serial killer candidate except for you. I know you're not mafia because Dojima's death pretty much proved it. He was in your favor yet he died. You'd have kept him alive if you were mafia right? And I find it hard to believe that you're townie by your reckless behavior. By elimination that only leaves the third party.
Although I am going to wait for Namatame and Adachi as well.
I honestly agree with this assessment. Neither Town nor Mafia is safe with a serial killer roaming loose. Like I said earlier, when I went searching through the Mafia Roles web page, I couldn't find anything that was related to targeting high powered mafia. I mean, how would he even know, unless he had an investigative power, which I didn't see anyone but cops (and FBI) agents) to have.
There was a time I had the opportunity and power to take him out, I am afraid the town has paid a high price for my innaccurate choice. I am not going to make the same mistake again.
##Vote: [M] Mitsuo
[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako
20 hours.
Oh you guys suck, I am not a serial killer, the reason the mafia wants to lynch me is because I can't be night killed and they know that if they slip up and reveal themselves mafia I can take them out.
Igor? O_O
I don't have investigate power, If they slip up and I get a hint as to what their role is, I can PM Igor and if I guess right they die. So far I haven't got anyone
Mitsuo, don't insult the people you're playing with.
Oh please, peeps. *fixes*
What the? How can someone slip up and reveal that they're mafia?
Okay, so you're saying that you can't be nightkilled, AND you can take mafia out if they slip up.
Even if you had that role it would be extremely overpowered.
Also Igor is Adachi a doublevoter or am I seeing double?
No. Let's not talk about this.
Don't tell your fellow players they suck. It's mean! >:O
I'm only joking.
It depends on me being able to prove who they are and so far I haven't gotten anything. The only person I could have gotten was Hanako I guess because she's a voteless, but I didn't even know what that was till last night, and why would I take out a person whose vote doesn't even matter?
Yeah I thought it was weird. We would have noticed it previously if he'd been that :p.
Double Voter is a legitimate Mafia Role, just Like Voteless Townie, Mitsuo.
That just looked wrong, I didn't mean to imply that Double Voter was mafia, only that there is a pro-town role called Double Voter.
BTW, I'm still mad that you guys made me role claim to live. Not cool.
Well anyway,
Mitsuo I still don't get it. So you're saying that because Hanako was voteless you could target her? :confused:
I don't buy your role claim either Mitsuo. Frankly, from what you said it's overpowered and breaks the game. You kill a mafia member if you can guess their exact role, and there is no limit to how often you can use it? That alone is overpowered, because there is no risk that you can kill townies my mistake with a misguided guess. Having night kill immunity is just the cherry on top of an already far too powerful role.
In any mafia setup, there must be balance. When you have a role that can win the game by itself that throws away all balance possible.
I would vote for you right now, but you are already halfway to a lynch and I want to avoid possible speedlynches. The day just started after all.
besides, If I get lynched at all, I lose, if town loses I lose, the only way I win is by wiping out all the mafia, and surviving
Also, I can only guess once a night
And you also cannot be nightkilled...
yes. So that's my only advantage. Plus Igor goes back through the posts made by that person and if he beleives they haven't incriminated themselves, no dice
About 21 hours left.
[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako
6 for a majority lynch.
well then, that's not very pleasant.
Anyone else feel that Mitsuo is just making up this role as he goes along?
Dead as ever here huh? -.-
See you in the morning.
My vote still stands.
Hey, not cool. I'm not. I bet some of you guys are mafia, and are attacking me because you guys have been unable to nightkill me and so now you have to get me lynched
Yes
Also, before I go out for the afternoon I want to leave everyone with a couple of thoughts:
1) I want to reiteriate that Naoto was our cop and she was not insane, naive, or paranoid. I have already had confirmation that if she was any of these things, we would have been told. So, because she was so adamant that Shu was mafia scum I believe she investigated him and got a guilty verdict, meaing there might be a Framer Mafia among us, although, if there are no more cops, I'm not sure if it is anymore dangerous than a regular mafia goon.
2) There was only one night kill on Night 3 which makes me think there is a Roleblocker in our midst. If so, that person must have blocked a mafia character rather than the serial killer since there were 2 kills on the following night. The mafia must have sent someone else to do their dirty work. If the Roleblocker does exist, I hope he/she finds a way to let us know without informing the Mafia who they are. It would be nice to be able to elminate their numbers and free the Role Blocker to block the next kill.
Well, the only night that had only one kill was Night 3, where Naoto was killed. It's possible that the Mafia targeted you that night, but then, why wouldn't they have targeted you last night as well? Surely if they wanted you dead that badly they would have targeted you again, especially as you role claimed yesterday, a role that seems ridiculously overpowered and extremely dangerous to the Mafia. Sounds very fishy to me.
About 21 hours left.
[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako
6 for a majority lynch.
20 hours, dudes and dudettes.
also that I lose with town
Its the same freaking thing. I have to take out the mafia in order to win, because most of them would be power roles. If I take out a townie power role, it would only be when we've narrowed it down to 1 mafia, also, they have to roleclaim or Igor ignores them
I tried to get Adachi on night two because he said he was gonna go investigate, but then Igor ignored him because he hadn't roleclaimed cop.
There, all my cards are out in the open. Now, if you can help me root out the mafia so I can try and eliminate them....
Fine:
I win if all the power roles are gone, this includes all the mafia. Therefore, if the mafia wins or I am lynched, I lose. I can only remove one role (as far as I know) and I am only allowed to guess one person per night. THey must have made a role claim for the thing to be effective. I cannot be night killed. On night one, I sent in no guess, on night 2, I guessed Adachi because I assumed he was claiming cop and was lying when he said he was gonna go investigate. Since then I have sent in no guesses, therefore, there must be either a rouge role or the mafia has a power killing role, which is my main priority to weed out.
Why would you not send in any guesses? You've just been completely wasting your role and not even bothering to try and help the town with it.
Mitsuo, I think you are full of it. Adachi doesn't have to "roleclaim" cop, I doubt Igor is going to let him dictate what role he's going to play. I'm sure what he meant when said he was going to go investigate was the same kind of investigation the rest of us are doing; combing through the posts in this thread to discipher what people are saying.
especially since the first thing he did today was pop up and set a fire in order to remove me from the picture
[M] Mistuo (3) - [M] Adachi, [M] Kou, [M] Rise
[M] Adachi (1) - [M] Nanako
6 for a majority lynch.
19 hours.
This isn't about whether or not Adachi is mafia because the mafia would benefit from taking out a serial killer as well. So even if it were so, it would not make you innocent of being a serial killer.
Im not a serial killer!
holy crap, my computer screen started turning red, what is going on!
It is detecting your lies and shutting you down.
I lol'd
You know guys, I walked away from the computer, all I kept thinking was what a damn fool Mitsuo is, what with his stupid "Punisher" character story, the boy must be trying to get himself lynched...
That's when I remembered reading a role called the Jester who's goal is to get himself lynched. He taunts us in the sign-up and discussion thread, betting he is not Mafia and he's not a serial killer. I'm wondering if he is the Jester character, and if he wins by being lynched, if it will hurt the town. :(
This is just me pondering, I would like someone (other than you Mitsuo) to comment on this. I am not changing my vote until a thorough discussion is held concerning this.
I think he is just making himself an easy target. It helps the mafia because they can use his planted evidence to throw him under the bus, and it looks like they outed him, and we gain their trust because hey, that person sniffed out scum, thats the way to gain trust.
if he is a jester then kudos to him for getting killed. Boo to him for taking the spotlight three days and letting the mafia hide much more easially during those days. (we did get Yukiko though despite his efforts.)
My theory is that two nights ago you tried to night kill me and couldn't and thats why yesterday morning you all of the sudden flipped out for getting me lynched! you are the serial killer Kanji!
Actually if you wanted to be lynched you would have just not voted, because the self vote would have ended in your death.
Thus Mitsuo is not the jester. He is either the serial killer or just plain old mafia.
Both roles mean we need to kill him.
True, we did get Yukiko, but it was like pulling teeth to get him to change his vote from you to her and even when he did there was still a majority vote on him. He didn't know I was going to be able to convince Namatame to change his vote to Yukiko.
I don't really think he is Mafia because Yukiko consistantly voted for him, exept on the second night when she voted for Shu. If he is not the Jester, I think he is the Serial Killer.
Actually, I haven't seen Kanji do anything suspicious at all.
BTW: I was I have already posted my theories about why there was only one kill on Night 3. I doubt its because of an outragous character that you claim, and more likely because someone's role is the RoleBlocker.
but I haven't killed anyone.
I summon daidara, I know you are lurking
Yup
Woah wait what? How would voting for me get you lynched? And I may be new to this but all this 'punisher' stuff sounds cooked up at the last minute. It also seems like an over-powered role... I'm so confused by everything. Like what you say could be feasible, but then what they say to contradict you makes sense too...
##unvote:kanji
##vote:daidara
##unvote:daidara
##vote: kanji
come on, you always come out when someone votes for you
Couldn't the Naoto Night-kill also be because the SK and Mafia both targeted her on that night?
It's not like it was Day 2, it was already Day 4. By that time he had plenty of your posts to sift through to determine whether or not he believes you to be guilty.
Right now you have said enough to get yourself hung, where as Kanji has not done anything to make me suspicious of him.
I don't know, you will have to ask someone with more experience playing the game. I was just stating a theory, I threw it out there with the hopes that if it is true then maybe the Role Blocker might be able to at least give us a hint. Being new to the game I am just trying to come up with logical theories as to why things happen.
Watch this Mitsuo. One can vote for themselves.
##Vote: Kanji
Also it's unvoting Daidara that summons him, not voting for him.
If only we still had our cop....
I've tried to vote for myself last year and it doesn't work.
I unvoted and voted for him, so he should've shown up.... also, has anyone seen daisuke?
Rise, by day four he really only had my posts on day one, I had nothing to do with day 2 or 3, and on day 1 he was fine with me. He HAD to have tried to night kill me and failed!