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Yeah. Xande didn't want to die so he became evil. Kuja was pretty much the same, he wanted to be free from Garland's rule. Ony Kuja wanted world domination all together with it and Xande became a pawn of the Cloud of Darkness.Quote:
Originally Posted by 50calCerberus
That has to do with the Yevon religion ostracizing the Al Bhed and banning all technology.Quote:
True. It only managed to send the fabulously futuristic Spira back into the Middle Ages,
Thanks to the lies of the Temple.Quote:
keep it there for 1000 years,
Bevelle seems fine.Quote:
destroy any settlements that grew too large for its liking
With a longer existence than nearly any other FF villain, Sin accumulated probably the lowest kill count of any of them.Quote:
and accumulated a kill count that almost nothing in the whole history of fictional stories can match.
Yep. Flatly said Bevelle did it and possibly Unalesca.Quote:
Oh didn't he?
Or do you think Jesus created Christianity because people spread his teachings and formulated religions around him?
The Final Summoning kept the people slaves to ignorance and fear for a millennium.Quote:
n any case, Sin wouldn't have destroyed Luca, as that would've eliminated blitzball and with no entertainment, the people would lose hope. And not only does Bevelle have the protection of the warrior monks, but has a temple that summoners need to pray at to get the Final Summoning. No Final Summoning, no hope.
Retro Gamer Monthly for Feburary (May have been March) stated that Kefka was and still is, one of the very few video game villians -ever- to accomplish his/her goal, which is mass world destruction. :heart:
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Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
lol the title of the magazine is all you need to knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
And look pretty while doing it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
It's between Kuja and Kefka for me. Kefka certainly managed to succeed in becoming an all-powerful God and ruling the world as he pleased as well as making his power unchallengeable by anybody really, removing those that stood a chance of defeating him (the main party) out of the picture by separating them and forcing them to hide.
Kuja, on the other hand, successfully destroys Terra and kills one of his biggest opponents (Garland). One could argue that Kuja didn't accomplish a great deal personally because he often had pawns act for him. Zorn and Thorn acquired the Eidolons for him, Brahne destroyed all the nations bar one and the party gave Kuja access to Mount Gulug. However, I think that Kuja's ability to use these people add to his accomplishments in that he achieved so much without personally putting himself at risk or getting his hands dirty. Kuja managed to ruin the Mist Continent with Cleyra and Burmecia arguably being beyond repair, challenge Lindblum's position as the most powerful nation and get within mere inches of destroying all life as he had hoped. If I'm going to be lovey-feely I could even say that Kuja's eventual redemption by saving the party and realising the error his ways encompasses a pretty big moral 'accomplishment.'
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Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪WELL THANK YOU FOR SPOILING :kaocry2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
Yeah, but seeing as Psx games are now sold at Retro stores, Retro's becoming a very vast term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolivarlol the title of the magazine is all you need to knowQuote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
OF COURSE!Quote:
Originally Posted by ÜbelAnd look pretty while doing it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
Not to mention he had a cult, if someone made him mad, he'd fry their town literally, he changed the ENTIRE world map, in after game terms, even after his death he still succeeded because unlike FFVII's self-healing world, FFVI's isn't self-healing and seeing as he did as much damage with his light of judgements BEFORE the final battle, the what 2 or 3 he shot off at random at the final battle leaves the world utterly screwed even after his death. I mean yeah, the people can rebuild their towns but geologically speaking, earthquakes are going to sprout, volcanoes, all that fun stuff. But then again FFVI was based off tragedy so I'm sure they didn't want to point that out at the end seeing as the entire game you gotta deal with people emo'd out from dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heath
KEFKA WINS AFTER HIS DEATH. *high-fives*
From what i heard about him, Delita is the most accomplished villain in FF. (SPOILER)He won in the end!
Delita > Kefka
And Kefka never succeeded. He accomplished ONE of his goals(rule the world as a god), but failed the other one(destroy everything/build a monument to non-existence).
For one, building a monument to non-existance is an oxymoron for the reason the monument built would exist therefore there would never be a non-existance. Not to mention, that wasn't even stated until right before the final battle. For speeches sake, every villians going to say right before a final battle something big and flashy, ironically enough his didn't even make sense. :love:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Crystal
Second, his goal was to rule the world and do what he wanted with it. He -never- wanted to gain power and then go "LOL BLOW UP WORLD" and detroy everything. He wanted to tourture the world and the people in it. He did just that.
What Kefka said before the final battle, was about what he wanted to do next. But he was killed before doing it. He failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
He wanted to destroy the world, as explained by him before the final battle. But he failed.Quote:
Second, his goal was to rule the world and do what he wanted with it. He -never- wanted to gain power and then go "LOL BLOW UP WORLD" and detroy everything. He wanted to tourture the world and the people in it. He did just that.
He did want to destroy the world but not rate at the start of the gate.Quote:
Originally Posted by The CrystalWhat Kefka said before the final battle, was about what he wanted to do next. But he was killed before doing it. He failed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarice-ness
He wanted to destroy the world, as explained by him before the final battle. But he failed.Quote:
Second, his goal was to rule the world and do what he wanted with it. He -never- wanted to gain power and then go "LOL BLOW UP WORLD" and detroy everything. He wanted to tourture the world and the people in it. He did just that.
At first Kefka wanted to become a god, and he succeeded, so he completed his goal.
After he decided, okay I'm bored should I destroy the world?
Thats when he failed. -But- his initial goal was successful.
Yeah, i gotta agree with Kuja, he managed to accomplish his goal by manipulating others then destroying a whole world. Enough said?
What about Chaos, he controlled time for 2000 years..
Chaos was a poor enemy, you barely saw him through out the game.
Kuja and Zande were successful in their initial goals too. But people talk more about Kefka, because he is more popular. Delita was more successfull than Kefka, but Delita isn't so popular as him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboko
Kefka is the new Sephiroth of FF. He isn't the most powerful or successful, but the most(or second most) popular.