God bless America's finest.

According to Dateline (which I'm watching right now) and probably other sources, the Red Cross has been informing the military of these problems for over a year and only now things are being done. That's sick. More pictures are surfacing... more of the same, torture and humilation at the hands of our troops. It really brings tears to my eyes.

This is obviously a huge problem. Not just six or seven low-ranking soldiers, but there's a problem in the chain of command. That whole prison had to know what was going on, and more people as well, seeing as the Red Cross has been telling them time and time again for a year.

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According to Dateline (which I'm watching right now) and probably other sources, the Red Cross has been informing the military of these problems for over a year and only now things are being done. That's sick. More pictures are surfacing... more of the same, torture and humilation at the hands of our troops. It really brings tears to my eyes.

This is obviously a huge problem. Not just six or seven low-ranking soldiers, but there's a problem in the chain of command. That whole prison had to know what was going on, and more people as well, seeing as the Red Cross has been telling them time and time again for a year.

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Then again, thats something I am not surprised about. Had those photographs never emerged, nothing would have been done. Now thats what I call a bunch of hypocrites.

Yep, March 2003 was when the Red Cross first started raising concerns about the treatment of prisoners. However, somewhere in the chain of command, the complaints were stopped in their tracks - possibly the officer who was benefitting from interrogating/torturing these "softened up" prisoners.

Actually, late last year or early this year, a soldier was reported in the papers as facing disciplinary action for abusing prisoners - she'd reportedly been kicking them repeatedly, stomping on their groins and inciting other soldiers to do the same. I'm uncertain as to the outcome of the investigation into her conduct; I don't believe it's been reported widely, if at all. Of course, with no pictures to show off, the media took very little interest.

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Actually, late last year or early this year, a soldier was reported in the papers as facing disciplinary action for abusing prisoners - she'd reportedly been kicking them repeatedly, stomping on their groins and inciting other soldiers to do the same. I'm uncertain as to the outcome of the investigation into her conduct; I don't believe it's been reported widely, if at all. Of course, with no pictures to show off, the media took very little interest.

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I never saw that or heard of it at all. Pictures hit home harder, I suppose. I need to start reading the papers more often.

here is what I put on my topic.

yesterday I was on the internet and reading newspapers looking at the news.
I sew these pictures that were so disurping (not sure if I spelt it right)
Iraq prisoners got abused.
the pictures of Iraqi soldiers with no uniforms and had a hell of a beating gave me a stomach ache . I tend not to show you the pictures because It's against the rules on this website. So if you want to see them, see for yourself.
I for one should think they should stop doing this

Apparently, our government (UK) hadn't even seen the Red Cross report a few days ago. Yet they're trying to say that all the issues raised in it are being dealt with. Something doesn't add up!

It seems that the phrase being tossed around is: 'Vigilante Justice'

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...raq_beatings_1

That phrase, in a nutshell, is a nice oxymoron.

This is becoming more and more like Vietnam, with the stakes growing higher and higher with every news event.

Take care all.

This is all getting so very sick. I'm ashamed to be human right now.

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Apparently, our government (UK) hadn't even seen the Red Cross report a few days ago. Yet they're trying to say that all the issues raised in it are being dealt with. Something doesn't add up!

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Investigations by UK intelligence, and independent groups, says that the tabeloid photos of British soldiers abusing prisoners in a truck was a fake - the vehicle, they say, is one that's never been anywhere near Iraq, and the photos were a set-up.

I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be stupid enough to attempt a cover-up or denial at a time like this, so they likely feel that they have good reasons for doubting these images. The same can't be said for the records of abuses by US guards, though, unfortunately. It'd be nice if it was all a huge terrorist propoganda scam, but that seems impossible now.

First round of sentencing occurred:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...soner_abuse_18

What's everyone's take? Harsh enough?

Take care all.

Looks like the Abu-Ghraib lot aren't avers to beating the odd prisoner to death, either... (disturbing pictures)

He went into the showers alive and healthy, and came out dead. Now what does that remind me of?