Possible Presidential Canidates for 2008

I'm a little late, but oh well.

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Originally Posted by Denmark

And Arnold can't run; he's not a natural-born American citizen. That will not be changed, and if it does, I'm starting a revolution. Forget that "run off to Canada" crap that a bunch of people I know will do if that rule is changed. Which it shouldn't be, as the framers of the Constitution put it in there. And it's wrong to change that.

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You have it completely backwards. The American Constitution is dynamic, which is the very reason that it's been in place for so long, whereas during the same time period, many countries had a habit of completely throwing out their constitution and instilling an entirely new one everytime they found a flaw in its writing, or one of the mentioned ideals became outdated.

The U.S. constitution has the ability to be amended (which is effectively a fancy word for "changed"), to counter these problems. If the ideals of the country changed, its leaders could go back and change the specific part in question. It's not wrong to change the Constitution. On the contrary, it was designed to be changed, and that ability allows it to keep up with the times, which is why it is so successful.

To be subjective for a moment, I would not vote for Arnold if he were allowed to run. It has nothing to do with the fact that he was born outside of the U.S. - he has lived here for half of his 50-some years, and he ideally should have a good grasp on what the U.S. is all about. I will vote for who I think is the best candidate to run the country, and just as race and gender are irrelevant to me, if the most suited candidate happened to be born outside the U.S., but happened to live here the majority of his/her life, I would vote for him/her.

I don't know anything about Hilary's platform, but I'll surely keep my eye on her. If she shares a good number of her views with her husband, I'll be happy. I have to admit, the fact that she's Bill's wife causes me to have a bias for her, and a positive one (believe it or not). Bill Clinton was a womanizer and a horrible husband, but I think many people let that fact cloud their thoughts before they actually attempt to evaluate how effective he was as a President. I personally think he was a good one.

Finally, I don't receive any of these "bad vibes" from anyone (except Bush).

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Originally Posted by nik0tine

Everyone around here hates both Hillary and Bill. I personally, think that Hillary is the Democratic parties last chance at gaining any sort of political influence ever again. The Republicans have the christians marching blindly in line with them. If the Democrats can't pull it off in 2008, it's over. I don't know what i'll do if that happens. A republican reign is going to end up killing alot of people, and destroying America's sense of freedom as well.

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I would not count out Barrack Obama. He has a good chance. He was the keynote speaker at the DNC before he was even a senator. I think his view of America is a great one. He doesn't see things as Red or Blue and because of that view he has been the key factor in bring both democrates and republicans to the table to get laws passed here in Illinios when he was a state senator. He has a very diverse background and can appeal to everyone on a lot of issues. I think he has a great shot although it is probably too early for him to run in 2008. He would only take it if there was seriously no other choice.

He is a person I can see as being a really great president as he is a really great person. Unlike a lot of presidents and congress he didn't go into the private sector(and he easily could have with how good of a student he was) but he went to the public sector so that he could help people out. Thats the kind of person I want as president.

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I would not count out Barrack Obama. He has a good chance. He was the keynote speaker at the DNC before he was even a senator. I think his view of America is a great one. He doesn't see things as Red or Blue and because of that view he has been the key factor in bring both democrates and republicans to the table to get laws passed here in Illinios when he was a state senator. He has a very diverse background and can appeal to everyone on a lot of issues. I think he has a great shot although it is probably too early for him to run in 2008. He would only take it if there was seriously no other choice.

He is a person I can see as being a really great president as he is a really great person. Unlike a lot of presidents and congress he didn't go into the private sector(and he easily could have with how good of a student he was) but he went to the public sector so that he could help people out. Thats the kind of person I want as president.

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Hear hear!

The thought of him and McCain running in the presidential elections, actually having two GOOD choices, that would be so wonderful I don't have words for it.

You know.... Bush really isn't as stupid as people claim him to be. Just because he isn't an eloquent speaker (which doesn't seem to matter in our case) doesn't mean he's unintelligent. He graduated as one of the top in his class in college. His IQ is quite high. I'm not for Bush, but lets keep the slander to a minimum here, and to factual basis.