Are they really startifng to put sex scenes in video games

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Originally Posted by Cloud No.9

lindy.

the first rule of pr is. controversy breeds publicity. publicity = sales.

the fact that we are talking about a game purely because of it's adult content increases the amount of times people hear about it. and that's all good for sales.

and people will always buy something to see what all the fuss is about.

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That's not true, exactly. When GTA III came out, people were more interested in the "sandbox gameplay" more than anything else. Sure, there were those people who were like, "Huh Huh, you can pick up hookers!" In fact, there are those kind of morons when it comes to anything, no matter if it is "crude" or not. Example: 14 year old boys seeing a artsy movie because it has nudity in it, instead of seeing it for the compelling story. Personally, I didn't get into GTA right away. It took awhile before the series grew on me. I didn't even care about the controversey.

Believe it or not, most people who are fans of GTA game don't give a rat's ass about the so-called adult content in it. They enjoy the game for the deep exploration, the "do what you want" attitude, and the enjoyable missions.

This next part is my own little rant. In otherwords, this isn't directed towards anyone.

I am just tired of people saying that adult nature content (if we are talking about sex or violence) shouldn't be in video games. I understand and agree that stuff like that shouldn't be in the hands of children, but if companies make adult movies, books, and comics FOR ADULTS, what's wrong with video games receiving the same treatment? People go so far as to say we should ban them. If you go by that logic, never send your child to Sunday school or let him/her pick up a bible. Lot's of nasty stuff is in there. While we're at it, never EVER turn on the news, connect to the internet, or pick up a paper. The worst kind of violence I have ever seen on TV was on the 9:00 news. But whatever, people are determinded to be as ignorant as possible.

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Originally Posted by Cloud No.9

yeah but it didn't require talk about boner's and the in's and outs of a male. if we want to start using every thread like this as an excuse to be like that then i will be the first to bring it to the next logical step.

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Omg you said it *giggles*

But yeah I think the AO label and the publicity going along with it and the scene that caused it are all stupid as hell.

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Originally Posted by Mirage

I once saw a nude woman when I was 17. I was scarred for life.

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xD

its even in nintendogs!!! xDDDDD

Well I sat down and read about the Grand Theft Auto incident. The hot coffee scene and Mr. Jack Thompsons stance on violent gaming. (www.Stopkill.com)
His reasons for making it a goal to raise ratings on games are to protect the American public's rights. So when people do blame their actions on gaming that it will not punish the rest of the world. I totally disagree with this. The government has not taken action in banning any games right at the moment despite numerous claims from individuals who said they used the games as simulators, ect. Stores solve this problem by independently choosing to remove the games from their shelves. I fail to see how raising the rating of a game will deny people the right to blame violence on gaming. Simply put, it's a endless battle that ultimately achieves nothing more than raising the rating on a game which is a mere suggestion, not enforced.

Wow, Jack Thompson was brave enough to show off not only his email address but his MAILING address as well. Boy am I gonna have fun with those.

Have fun Joel xD :D

I am sure something like sex on a M rated game(where by then i am sure you at least heard of sex...) which is purely natural in life to be something of a controversey. I find alot of people like to point fingers at something else and at times not at themselves when bad things happen. Same deal here. I mean sure to say GTA isnt good to be picked up by kids is one thing, but to blame games for that content (and for some...to be played by children...dont show them the damn game..its that simple..) is kinda retarded.

I am not a fan of GTA, but that doesnt take away the stupidity.

I just realized something. Thompson is attacking violent games like GTA, Halo, Doom, etc. Yet he doesn't touch all of these "patriotic" games like Medal of Honour, Rainbow Six etc. where you're playing as a soldier or a special ops guy out killing terrorists, nazis, Viatnamies, and so on and so forth. They're every bit as violent as most of the games Thompson is campaining against yet he doesn't go after them

there's no need for a discussion about violence caused by video games because it is completely false. The number of youth homocides have steadil DECREASED since video games, they're just trying to blame something.

As for the whole sex content, it only became a big deal because of people like... Hilary Clinton who probably never touched a game in her life so she really shouldn't say anything. It's like me telling a movie director that he has no idea what he's doing and that what he makes will have a huge effect on society and ruin our youth.

THE JACKEL

For those wanting a little more insight into the mind of Jack Thompson, this just proves, you don't know Thompson.

http://vgcats.com/jack.php

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Originally Posted by mecakane

The only reason the "hot coffee" was in San Andreas was lazyness, or slack-ass work, that left the extra code in. If they really wanted the controversy they'd make an in-game cheat activate it and, I don't know, NOT deny it and say hackers did it untill it was proven to be in the PS2 version.

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I tend to disagree. If the code was accesable without any mods, the ESRB would've definately been on them. Leaving the code in there, then dropping hints on the codes existance, may be a great way to stir up some news.

Face it, the pc version came out long after the PS 2 version, and it needed a little kick. This all makes sence to me. I am not saying it is a fact; it just makes down right sense.

Bipper

hot coffe was there to generate sales after the first release rush to buy the game had subsided. it keeps up sales by keeping the name around for a bit. it was no use putting it in at the start as it was gonna sell out when it came out anyway. they knew that. but the idea was too keep sales going for both formats.

Um, no. The mod or cheat could seriously mess up your save games, the only way to exit it is to kill yourself or something afterwards, it caused the game to be rated Adults Only removing it from major conservative retailers.

The ERSB doesn't examine everything in a game before its release, they play some of it and read reviews and ask the developer. It's not like the mpaa watching a movie and staying after the credits to make sure nothing was slipped in after them. They don't have 50+ hours for every video game released.

edit: where are these hints you're talking about?

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I just realized something. Thompson is attacking violent games like GTA, Halo, Doom, etc. Yet he doesn't touch all of these "patriotic" games like Medal of Honour, Rainbow Six etc. where you're playing as a soldier or a special ops guy out killing terrorists, nazis, Viatnamies, and so on and so forth. They're every bit as violent as most of the games Thompson is campaining against yet he doesn't go after them

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I don't know, something tells me these games go for realism. You know, not blowing people up into a gooey mess with a single gun blast. Rainbow Six is a steath game, you can't jump down into a pit of enemies and start blasting them away like you can in those other games, so they're not as voilent. No matter how much you want to point some sort of "omg he's pro-war finger"

There still about as violent as Halo or GTA.

Not really, they're very much sans-blood, and the main complaint about GTA is the fact that you're shooting innocent civilians and police.

That's what's supposed to "corrupt" young minds into murdering all their peers, not shooting Nazis.

It's much easier to jump on the controversy in a game like GTA than the basic violence in Medal of Honour.

Hmm, so it's bad if we shoot at fellow nobodys, monsters, aliens, and other creatures but if we shoot at Vietnamies, Nazis, and pretty much people who were against the US during major world events in history it's ok?

And FYI, Rainbow Six was pretty bloody and gorey when it came to exit wounds.