LV7 Tifa vs. Emerald Weapon (Solo Victory)

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Originally Posted by shinangel2292

tbh

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What the hell does tbh mean?

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Originally Posted by Rengori

What the hell does tbh mean?

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tbh you should ask a little nicer

I didn't watch the video, but can someone answer me how he managed to keep his MP high enough for life2+Final Attack, when Emerald has an attack that drains 500 MPs and he does that twice (or more) before killing you with Aire Tam? Even if he used HP<->MP he would need tons of HP Up so that his Mp would be higher than 1,000. Also, he need to cast KOTR, and, if he had W-Summon it would cost 500 MPs.

Someone plz explain this to me.

MP Plus and mime did most of the work.

But how much MP Tifa had? 5000 or something?

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Originally Posted by dragoonknight_kain

But how much MP Tifa had? 5000 or something?

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Tifa had 592 MP, and HP was at 66.

Tifa used up MP until she reached 48 MP, after that she summoned KotR 6 times from what I counted with out any MP what so ever, around the 4th time, Emerald Weapon attacked, so I would think that her next round of summons would use MP on atleast the first attack after Emerald Weapon hit her.
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Master HP plus, 2 of them +50%MaxHp
Master MP plus, 2 of them +50%MaxMP

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HP <-> MP. Gone by so fast that it's nearly skipped over. x x;
592 HP//66 Mp makes alot more sense then 66 HP//592Mp

Edit: By the way, I am completely Neutral on all this, regardless of what I seem to be saying, I just want to point out what I see, and other's arn't, as to be of some help.. For those wanting to make a war out of this. =}

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Originally Posted by Avarice-ness

Master MP plus, 2 of them +50%MaxMP

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There's no MP+ just Magic Plus materia. If she put MP+ in it her HP won't be lower than 100

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Originally Posted by dragoonknight_kain

can someone answer me how he managed to keep his MP high enough for life2+Final Attack, when Emerald has an attack that drains 500 MPs and he does that twice (or more) before killing you with Aire Tam? Even if he used HP<->MP he would need tons of HP Up so that his Mp would be higher than 1,000. Also, he need to cast KOTR, and, if he had W-Summon it would cost 500 MPs.

Someone plz explain this to me.

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First, she doesn't cast Life2, she casts Life, the Revive materia has no AP on it yet. Emerald has an attack that drains 500 MP yes, but it doesn't have chance to cast it. Tifa goes first, 2 KOTRs, then Emerald does an attack that kills Tifa. Tifa then Final Attacks with both Life (for a grand total of 544 MP, KOTR has MP Turbo linked) and Mime at the same time, which baffles people as to how she didn't mime the Life command.

My theory is that both Final Attacks happened at the same time. When the Mime was activated, it was activated at the same that the Revive was activated, and the last things Tifa did when Mime was activated was 2 KOTRs. This wouldn't work normally, but since it was just her actions, and the two Final Attacks happening at the same time, the timing worked differently than it normally would and resulted in Tifa miming the summon.

Anyway, Tifa then Mimed 2 KOTRs, which cost her nothing, as casting Mime uses no resources. After the first KOTR, she has time to input another command, Mime. So she was able to use 4 KOTRs in a row before Emerald had its next turn. When Emerald had its next turn, those four orbs lit up, and the first one attacked, doing percentage damage to Tifa. This triggered Counter + Mime, and before the other three orbs had a chance to attack, Tifa countered with 2 KOTRs, again using no MP. After the first one, the orbs were gone and the other three had no chance to attack, and Tifa also had time to input another Mime command. 2 more KOTRs later and Emerald was dead.

And that is how she could do this fight with a mere 600ish MP. She only paid for the first 2 KOTRs and Life.

I think it's gamesharked or something, because how can you get to the point where the weapons show up and only be level 7 to begin with?! OMGWTF. So, anyway, I can get to the end below level 25. That's it. And I had to run a lot to do it.

Tifa has to always be in your party through the whole game to that point, and always has to be dead. It's doable.

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Originally Posted by SeeDRankLou

the Revive materia only has no AP on it yet.

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Only.

Ok, I watched the video now. But I noticed two things. First, it took me many tries to kill Emerald and he ALWAYS attacks first, with Emerald shot I think. Maybe he had a preemptive materia (the video was too fast, I couldn't see all the materias). And, everytime I destroyed Emerald's eyes, he counter-attacked with Revenge Stamp or Emerald Shoot.

Also, Emerald attacked 2 or 3 times in the whole battle, how's that possible?

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Originally Posted by dragoonknight_kain

Ok, I watched the video now. But I noticed two things. First, it took me many tries to kill Emerald and he ALWAYS attacks first, with Emerald shot I think. Maybe he had a preemptive materia (the video was too fast, I couldn't see all the materias). And, everytime I destroyed Emerald's eyes, he counter-attacked with Revenge Stamp or Emerald Shoot.

Also, Emerald attacked 2 or 3 times in the whole battle, how's that possible?

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actually this raises a valid point. emerald counter attacks after every attack he receives if i am not mistaken

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Originally Posted by shinangel2292

actually this raises a valid point. emerald counter attacks after every attack he receives if i am not mistaken

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Yes, but Emerald doesn't counter a counter, which is what Tifa is doing half the time.