Walt and Skylar both love to reveal things to people to hurt them and then walk away.
Walt: "I watched Jane die." *walks away*
Skylar: "I smurfed Ted." *walks away with the salad bowl*
Walt and Skylar both love to reveal things to people to hurt them and then walk away.
Walt: "I watched Jane die." *walks away*
Skylar: "I smurfed Ted." *walks away with the salad bowl*
That show is evil. I watched it a few weeks ago. I'm sitting here, nursing my baby, and they start an episode with a baby dying of SIDS. I hardly slept for a week after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
I never said anything about Skyler not being complicit in the wheeling and dealings of the meth business. Of course she was. I was responding to YOU saying that Skyler's "I'm sorry" was somehow a pathetic wife reacting to a abusive husband. I was pointing out that it's not that simple, and that I thought you missed some key nuances in that conversation. That was the whole point of the phone conversation. Skyler was neck deep in it and Walt was trying to put all the blame on himself. Her "I'm sorry" wasn't just about apologizing to an abuser, like you suggested. It was about a lot of different things. Including in my opinion, her letting Walt know that she understood what he was doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyOh please. She wasn't put in to the situation. She WENT in knowingly. She had the chance to divorce him and did not once she found out he had a lot of money. She tolerated all of his manipulation and sociopathic behavior to keep the family together and keep the money, but in the end she is also evil. She'd rather frame her own brother in law and kill Jesse than to be implicated for money laundering. They're both pretty horrible people. At no point did she pick up that phone after finding out he's a drug dealer, and call the police knowing full well what danger her family could be in for deciding to walk with the devil. One of the worse things about her is that she is a coward with no balls despite her character having gumption. Hate people like her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
It's interesting that all of the characters broke bad in some way except for Flynn, Marie, and Holly.
As for the specific part you quoted from my post, I would say that at various points, Skyler WAS afraid of Walt. Including in this episode where I think she really believed that Walt murdered Hank, leading to the knife fight. She thought she had to defend against Walt, which is something she's felt before. Hank was the line for everyone. For Walt AND for Skyler. Skyler thought he crossed the line and murdered Hank, which meant that everything was out the window.
I re-watched the phone call scene last night. Man is that a great piece of television. Bryan Cranston eats the scene and trouts emmys.
Its so complex. There is obvious subtext to the over-the-top-heisenberg things that Walt is saying to her, but I feel there is some honesty to it as well. Particularly his line about her telling Walter Jr what he does. We've seen Walter do this before. He can't simply express his emotions unless he can mask them under some 'move' or ulterior motive.
( Another possible example of this is when he confesses to watching Jane die to Jesse. He's obviously angry and blaming Jesse for the death of Hank, but I think he was also trying to finally release his guilt he's been carrying in what could possibly be the last time he sees Jesse alive. )
Watch Walter's demeanor up until Skyler's apology. This is the point where he turns from poker face to practically breaking down while he's spouting his threats.
The line "You're never going to see Hank again" is heartbreaking.
Well hot damn. Looks like they will find a way to explain what happened at Gray Matter after all, but not sure if it will be in a flashback (I hope not) or when Walt encounters them. They did say they were going to tie up all loose ends. This finale is going to be awesome. Guess he has other plans for that big ass gun...but I still think the skinheads are his main targets.
Jesus Christ. That episode was everything I hoped for and more. Ozymandias was great, but the phone call to Flynn, for me, was the saddest part of the entire series. So far, I guess. Also, the part where he gives the dude $10,000 to stay and play cards with him was so pathetic and lonely that I couldn't help but feel bad for him.
As for the Grey Matter business, I think that's as far as it will go. We thought Heisenberg was finally dead, but that final shot to his ego was enough to re-awaken the monster. More importantly, Charlie Rose mentions that the Blue Meth is still circulating, so he's aware that Jesse is still alive and cooking for the Nazis. I really hope that they won't go into Grey Matter any further. Some people think the ricin and / or M60 is for Gretchen and Elliot now, but I think that would be out of place and weak writing. Let it stay the plot point that incited Walt to return to ABQ and leave it at that.
I don't know what I'm going to do after this show is over. I don't think I've ever been so engrossed by a piece of media, and I doubt I ever will be again.
It seems like a ton of loose ends to tie up in one last 54 minute episode. I have no clue how it can be pulled off effectively, and am kind of curious if they won't give another extension for the finale. After Ozmandias, I was not nearly as impressed with this episode.
I actually liked this episode better than the previous one.
Yeah I felt bad for Walt at the cards moment as well and then of course it shifts back to making him revengeful. It makes me think that the ending can go either way. We will either be sympathetic to Walt or we will completely hate him.
Also I think there will be better writing than this. Maybe not better shows, but who knows? One thing I can say is that I don't think Bryan Cranston is ever going to get another role to top this one.
A very good penultimate episode, which sets up the finale nicely. Seeing Walt go through such a transformation in one episode was very interesting.
I can't stop laughing at these. Oh, Meth Damon.
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Speculative Spoiler for the Final EpisodeThere were reports a while ago that the actress for Gretchen had been in Albuquerque reprising her role in Breaking Bad. This is interesting to note as her scene in last night's episode was confirmed as having been filmed in New York. I'm not sure how, but it very much seems that she will appear in the last episode.
She's going to cook Grey meth.
I went into this thinking it was the last episode and by the last five minutes I was basically about to throw things.
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