Finnally, general guild wars thread revived.

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Originally Posted by Lindy

Let me take you through the real world of PvP, you know, somewhere that isn't CA or TA. CA and TA are just like PvE, you can play anything you want and it'll work half the time.

For one, there are no "tanks" in PvP, people will go straight for the monk, you can't "tank" in PvP because there are no skills to increase threat on a player.

For two, warriors don't do damage unless they're built for it (off-target axe-spiker, KD-AS hammer, KD-HS hammer), so most things outdamage them.

For three, live vicariously heals you for, what, 13~14 points per hit? At the cost of one energy regen? And you're relying ENTIRELY on the people you're fighting to be bunched together, which is going to happen in about 1/100 fights, and they'll never STAY bunched together.

Barrage, Judges Insight and Live Vicariously are good for farming the Undead hordes at the Gates of Kryta, but not much beyond that.

Stop playing Theory Wars.

If you were playing any form of real PvP, live vicariously would be shattered/stripped/desecrated/drained instantly, your Orison or Barrage would be prevented by Diversion, or more likely you'd just be hit by an Energy Denial Mesmer and be able to do nothing anyway.

The only thing that really requires the Monk part in your "build" is Orison of Healing, which if you're just playing CA and TA could be replaced by Troll Unguent and you'd work just as well with an R/Mo, as well as having a wider range of bow attacks because you can use Expertise.

Mo/R's are limited in actual EFFECTIVE strategies, but like I said, CA and TA you can do anything you want.

About the only good thing I've seen on a Mo/R was Draw Conditions and Melandru's Resilience, for HP/Energy Regen, and it worked well because Stance breaker skills are lacking.

Also, on the matter of Glint, how can you forget that Warriors have Savage Slash on Swords and Distracting Blow on Axes?

You need a Ranger for interrupts, since Monster Attacks don't count as spells, so most Mesmer interrupts (bar Cry of Frustration) don't work.

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Nice informative post. A couple questions: What the heck is CA and TA?

Also, I didn't think Melandru's Resilience was a stance...

As for Savage Slash, I've used it, it just doesn't do that much good, because Glint's skills all have incredibly low recharge times, so she can just use them again immediately, and Savage Slash doesn't cycle fast enough to stop them all.

As far as I can tell, Glint uses four abilities: Two hexes (Crystal Haze and Crystal Bonds), one stance (Spiked Crystal Skin), and one "skill" (Crystal Hibernation).

CA = Competition Arenas, where you're randomly placed in a group.
TA = Team Arenas, where you can form a group before entering.

Both are fairly free-form, lightweight PvP where you can test things out or have a laugh with fairly silly builds.

Melandru's Resilience {Elite}

Description: For the next 8/23/28 seconds, you gain +2 health regeneration and +1 energy regeneration for each Condition and Hex you are suffering.
Energy Cost: 5.
Casting Time: Instant.
Recharge Time: 15 seconds.
Linked Attribute: Wilderness Survival. Increases duration.
Skill Type: Stance.

S'perfect for a Monk dealing with an enemy group running Fragility, Draw Conditions to spam away and heal yourself easily, and keep up your energy as well.

On the matter of Glint, you don't NEED to stop all of Glint's skills, Haze and Bonds are relatively unimportant when you have an eight man team, Skin has never proved trouble for me, but Hibernation is the problem. You should also have Distracting Blow, zero damage but cancels the skill, I mixed that one up with Disrupting Chop.

If you let her cast Hibernation, all elemental attacks heal her and she regenerates health. Thankfully it has a long cast time, so save your interrupts for that, if you stop her from using that then you're golden, since she usually doesn't cast it right away afterwards.

Remember she goes for the egg carrier, so have a warrior grab that and hold onto it, so she focuses purely on them.

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Originally Posted by Lindy

Let me take you through the real world of PvP, you know, somewhere that isn't CA or TA. CA and TA are just like PvE, you can play anything you want and it'll work half the time.

For one, there are no "tanks" in PvP, people will go straight for the monk, you can't "tank" in PvP because there are no skills to increase threat on a player.

For two, warriors don't do damage unless they're built for it (off-target axe-spiker, KD-AS hammer, KD-HS hammer), so most things outdamage them.

For three, live vicariously heals you for, what, 13~14 points per hit? At the cost of one energy regen? And you're relying ENTIRELY on the people you're fighting to be bunched together, which is going to happen in about 1/100 fights, and they'll never STAY bunched together.

Barrage, Judges Insight and Live Vicariously are good for farming the Undead hordes at the Gates of Kryta, but not much beyond that.

Stop playing Theory Wars.

If you were playing any form of real PvP, live vicariously would be shattered/stripped/desecrated/drained instantly, your Orison or Barrage would be prevented by Diversion, or more likely you'd just be hit by an Energy Denial Mesmer and be able to do nothing anyway.

The only thing that really requires the Monk part in your "build" is Orison of Healing, which if you're just playing CA and TA could be replaced by Troll Unguent and you'd work just as well with an R/Mo, as well as having a wider range of bow attacks because you can use Expertise.

Mo/R's are limited in actual EFFECTIVE strategies, but like I said, CA and TA you can do anything you want.

About the only good thing I've seen on a Mo/R was Draw Conditions and Melandru's Resilience, for HP/Energy Regen, and it worked well because Stance breaker skills are lacking.

Also, on the matter of Glint, how can you forget that Warriors have Savage Slash on Swords and Distracting Blow on Axes?

You need a Ranger for interrupts, since Monster Attacks don't count as spells, so most Mesmer interrupts (bar Cry of Frustration) don't work.

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meet you at the tomb of primevale kings right now!

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Originally Posted by tsukasa

meet you at the tomb of primevale kings right now!

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I lol'd.

Final Mission! Yay! Any advice? The Titans themselves aren't too bad, but I'm having a really hard time at the points where I'm fighting Titans and the little imp guys.

Edit: Ok, scratch that question. Final Mission completed. I have saved the world. Aren't I special. Four bonuses and I'll have them all (Dunes of Despair, Dragon's Lair, Thunderhead Keep, and Hell's Precipe). I also collected every Warrior and Monk skill in the game.

Now I'm working on bonuses and the Titan quests (which are awesome). I noticed that in Tasca's Demise, the enemies now include Titans. Will those guys be around even after I complete the Titan quests?

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When the moon rises high over Lion's Arch
And the wind moans through the most hollow of eves

Shutter your homes this holiday
Steer clear of the shadows
For on this night, they say,

A long-addled spirit returns from the grave
Pumpkin upon his head,
A wicked deed within his heart
A pint of witch's brew for all those who misbehave

Heed these words, all ye who dare enter here:
Bind your souls to the mortal realm
For the regent of madness draws near


Additional changes:

* Added options to toggle the display of helmets and guild capes.

* Added the ability for players to bind the Escape key to in-game actions.

* Added "Heal Signet" to the Priests of Balthazar.

* Corrected text description for skill "Order of Pain."

* Fixed skills "Battle Rage," "Edge of Extinction," "Illusion of Weakness," "Martyr," "Plague Signet," "Plague Touch," "Predatory Season," "Spinal Shivers," and "Thunderclap," which had portions of their functionality broken in last week's update.

* Fixed the order of removal for Condition, Enchantment, and Hex removal skills, which was broken in last week's update.

* Fixed collectors in The Catacombs, Skyward Reach, and Whitman's Folly.

* Fixed miscellaneous rare crash bugs.

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:D

If anyone wants to know which boss to get elite skills for a certain class, just ask... i can answer most proprosels (i spelt it wrong).

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Originally Posted by tsukasa

If anyone wants to know which boss to get elite skills for a certain class, just ask... i can answer most proprosels (i spelt it wrong).

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Try going here: http://www.xennon.co.uk/eliteskills It has a complete listing of all the skills, divided up by class, with maps for every one except the ones you get from the Facets in the Dragon's Lair.

Oh, and are they adding any new quests/bosses/etc for Halloween, or just the decorations in some areas?

Took some screen shots from Lions Arch

Here's some from the Tomb of Primeevil Kings

You forget the new henchies.
And the new ingame collector items.
Pumpkin head FTW :tongue:

I just bought this game, but when making the acount, it asks me for my adress. Is it safe? I don't wan't to get smap mail or anything like that.

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Originally Posted by Mookies

You forget the new henchies.
And the new ingame collector items.
Pumpkin head FTW :tongue:

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What are the pumpkin heads for?
And yes it's safe to put your address.

I have the entire halloween set. The mad kings supposed to coem to lions arch on sunday night :D

I've regained a lot of interest in playing, especially with these theme things for Halloween. It's bugging me lately that I've had the game since June and still haven't beaten it, or even gotten a character to level 20 (and yes, I've had one of my characters since I got the game...he's level 16.)

So if anyone wants to help me with anything, hit me up. I'll either be Shoeberto Ramirez (E/Mo16) or Dracula Shoebertina (Mo/W11). Halp plz.