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09-30-2005, 07:00 PM
ThroneofDravaris

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Did Square put details on the game so hidden that they are to remain nearly unnoticed

That was the original topic. So despite how crazy, random and baseless the posts have been in this thread, it's still actually rather on topic. People are discussing hidden details that they believe are contained within the game. You can't really say that it has nothing to do with the topic, just because the ideas appear to be lacking in evidence (no offence FE) doesn't mean that this thread need to be closed. If people really get sick of this topic, they won't post here like FE's other threads.
09-30-2005, 07:33 PM
Future Esthar

Doesn´t know he had wings.To me it was a disk.

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This look like a direct rip off from FF VII Jenova and the Cetra.

There were many things on FF7 that help us hint on the secrets of FF8.

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Why must it be the 4th generation anyway? And since everyone is propagators, what make Ultimecia so special as to be able to curse the others? And who or what possessed her?

I didn´t explained it well.
Basically "X" possessed every member of the dinasty up to the fourth generation (counting from the first).
Somehow they became ONE big Sorceress on the same way that the Power Rangers turns into a huge robot.
It happens based on the decision of everyone (possessed).
Although I believe they probably were possessed gradually on their eras which gaves Ellone time to use her powers.
But when the Winhillians saw the bad things happening on the past X decided to change the past quickly before they saw it all.
So X picked Ulti at random and possessed her.
Then Ulti passed her powers to Edea and X possessed her.

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What do you mean by advanced "possessed" Centra soldiers. As far as I know, almost all civilizations in FF VIII originated from Centra.How can there be another civilization?

Galb.Soldiers

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Why must it be Winhill anyway? And people of Winhill most likely originated from Galbadia which the Galbadian originated from Centra.

Because is the borntown of X.People of Winhill originated from Centra but not from the same line as the Galbadians.
Galbadians come from the Centra Kingdom.
Winhillians don´t originate from this Kingdom.
They were calm,peaceful people.
Actually,the plot of the game just go around these two races.

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How can you prove the that there is such a thing called "Queen" Propagator? As far as everyone know, propagators goes in pair and revive each other. So there is not a need for a "Queen"

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The Propagators we see on the ship are the ones who become kings.
Each pair is each married King-Queen couple.
However I think there were others who constitute the remaining family(uncles,cousins,etc...).
These were the White Seeds
This Implies that one of Squall´s fathers has to be a Propagator.
My guess is Raine.Raine is a White Seed.

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Why should they be afraid of the people of Winhills anyway? No matter what the people of Winhill knows or think, they cannot do anything to change it anyway. Why must the villian goes to such a big trouble to perform time compression to deceive people from Winhill.

The people of Winhill (Sam Hill) will be so advanced on the future that they would be able to take down X should they discover the thruth even without fighting skills.

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Since everything is lost, how come you know it?

Deduction using hints on the Time Compressed world,no?

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Why ,ust she goes to such a big trouble to do this like getting them to the desert prison from the orphanage...etc. Just gather them and do it straighr away.

Because X actions were being watched by the future Winhillians.
I already explained that.

[/QUOTE]Now what in your mind is Vascaroons anyway?[QUOTE]

Master Laguna Loire.

EDIT:Calm down,Skyblade.I knew this is going offtopic.I was just talking about closing threads in general(whether offtopic or not).
And I never said my theories were superior to anyone.
09-30-2005, 08:12 PM
Oryxxx

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Originally Posted by crazybayman

He must be just having fun with this. No one who can type or use a computer is this stupid.

Thats indeed what I think of FE, the propagator thing there he just went too far :) and showed hes just making fun of all the people who are angry at him.

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Originally Posted by FutureEsthar

This Implies that one of Squall´s fathers has to be a Propagator.

I didnt even see that one, nice one :)
09-30-2005, 08:15 PM
crazybayman

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

The Propagators we see on the ship are the ones who become kings.
Each pair is each married King-Queen couple.
However I think there were others who constitute the remaining family(uncles,cousins,etc...).
These were the White Seeds
This Implies that one of Squall´s fathers has to be a Propagator.

So now your saying that when they time-travel when going into space, they GO BACK IN TIME. So how do you explain your theory of the Obel Lake penninsula being eroded away? If it is eroded away from its current state, doesn't that have to be in the future, which is a time ahead of the story? That means that according to your "Time Travelling when entering outer space theory" they travel ahead in time, to the future.

However, now your saying they travel back in time, because the propagators on the ship eventually become Kings and Queens of the Centra Dynasty, and that Squall's father was a propagator. This isn't even consistent, let alone plausible. The reason why it isn't consistent? Because you're full of $hit.

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Originally Posted by Oryxxx

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Originally Posted by crazybayman

He must be just having fun with this. No one who can type or use a computer is this stupid.

Thats indeed what I think of FE, the propagator thing there he just went too far :) .

Exactly.

ATTENTION FUTURE ESTHAR:
Go back and read post 101. I figured you'd overlook that which points to reason.
09-30-2005, 08:45 PM
Skyblade

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

EDIT:Calm down,Skyblade.I knew this is going offtopic.I was just talking about closing threads in general(whether offtopic or not).
And I never said my theories were superior to anyone.

Right, calm down. Count to ten, drop the sword, and step away from Future Esthar before you hurt him...

Sorry, but we do already have other threads about your *expletives deleted* theories. Why can't you just make a single thread that has all of your theories in it so that you don't have to keep putting them all over the place? It'd make things a lot easier on us, especially since your theories often reference each other...
09-30-2005, 08:48 PM
ThroneofDravaris

...You realise that you just told him to make another thread, don't you?
09-30-2005, 08:51 PM
GunbladeMaster

lol
09-30-2005, 08:54 PM
Skyblade

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Originally Posted by ThroneofDravaris

...You realise that you just told him to make another thread, don't you?

Yes. I'd ask him to merge them all, but he's not a mod. As it is, I figure if he makes one (and that one is the only one he's allowed to post theories in), I will be able to ridicule him endlessly should he post them elsewhere. I'd enjoy that.

Also, it would let this thread get back on topic, which would be nice, since it was a valid discussion.
09-30-2005, 09:15 PM
Christmas

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

There were many things on FF7 that help us hint on the secrets of FF8.

Like what?

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

I didn´t explained it well.
Basically "X" possessed every member of the dinasty up to the fourth generation (counting from the first).
Somehow they became ONE big Sorceress on the same way that the Power Rangers turns into a huge robot.
It happens based on the decision of everyone (possessed).
Although I believe they probably were possessed gradually on their eras which gaves Ellone time to use her powers.
But when the Winhillians saw the bad things happening on the past X decided to change the past quickly before they saw it all.
So X picked Ulti at random and possessed her.
Then Ulti passed her powers to Edea and X possessed her.

So now we have a giant sorceress on the rampage? And why must "X" care so much about what the people of WInhill think? When "X" take over Winhill in the future, the people will still hate him. It doesn't matter when they hate him anyway.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Galb.Soldiers

What had Galbadian soldiers had to do with Centra soldiers now?

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Because is the borntown of X.People of Winhill originated from Centra but not from the same line as the Galbadians.
Galbadians come from the Centra Kingdom.
Winhillians don´t originate from this Kingdom.
They were calm,peaceful people.

And these are true cause you said so? And I can said Galbadian came from an underwater civilization and the people of Winhill came from Mars.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Actually,the plot of the game just go around these two races.

So the people of Esthar are pointless in the game while the people of a small little town which just play a little development in the plot is the main issue here?

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

The Propagators we see on the ship are the ones who become kings.
Each pair is each married King-Queen couple.

I can also said they are the same monsters which they just split into two cause even if one died, the other will be able to revive him since they are "one" instead of "two"

There isn't anyway to prove your assumption of King-Queen couple.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

However I think there were others who constitute the remaining family(uncles,cousins,etc...).
These were the White Seeds
This Implies that one of Squall´s fathers has to be a Propagator.
My guess is Raine.Raine is a White Seed.

The same applies. You cannot just make up stuff about the Propagator on the way they live and all this.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

The people of Winhill (Sam Hill) will be so advanced on the future that they would be able to take down X should they discover the thruth even without fighting skills.

So it is all in the future, since "X" just practically controlled everything, he/she just destroy Winhill now and everything will be done.

And where do you get the idea that WInhill will be advanced in the future. Why isn't Balmab, dollet...etc.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Deduction using hints on the Time Compressed world,no?

And my deduction from the hints on time compressed world is that no one know it nor it even existed. Look more like you are making this up.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Because X actions were being watched by the future Winhillians.
I already explained that.

Since everyone can time travel, the people of Winhill just travel back to the past and eliminate "X" and story ends since now we have people of the Future Winhill getting in the picture. This is just getting more and more absurd.

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Originally Posted by Future Esthar

Master Laguna Loire.

And why? What had he gotto do with Hyne and all the story?
09-30-2005, 09:45 PM
Gilgamesh of Legends

Future Esthar just proved that he is insane. No one can deny this now.
09-30-2005, 10:07 PM
Sir Bahamut

I still don't get why so many persistently try and actually argue against the stuff FE says. Why bother? You'll have better conversations with a brick wall, and he's probably laughing at you as he's typing.
09-30-2005, 10:40 PM
G SpOtZ

i love moogle pie.
09-30-2005, 10:58 PM
Jessweeee♪

NO

I just don't see the point of this...you've been making a mountain out of a molehill of this game.
(not that the game is a molehill...your theories are just mountains)
09-30-2005, 11:08 PM
G SpOtZ

molehill. funny word.
10-01-2005, 01:57 AM
Future Esthar

I SWEAR that I am not making fun of anyone and I am convinced about my theories.
I am no insane.
I ALREADY EXPLAINED THAT YOU AREN´T PREPARED TO UNDERSTAND THESE ADVANCED THEORIES BECAUSE i HADN´T POST ENOUGH SIMPLE THEORIES YET.
AND TO UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF THESE THEORIES YOU NEED TO KNEW ABOUT WOTC.

To Unknowns

Winhill is called Sam Hill on the future.

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So now we have a giant sorceress on the rampage? And why must "X" care so much about what the people of WInhill think? When "X" take over Winhill in the future, the people will still hate him. It doesn't matter when they hate him anyway.

I am in no position to answer this question now.But store this question somewhere because I will give the answer to that on the right time (but you will have to store it and remember me if much time has passed).

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So the people of Esthar are pointless in the game while the people of a small little town which just play a little development in the plot is the main issue here?

Ah,ah,ah,ah,ah,ah lol.
Yes,it is.
Keyword: WOTC

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And where do you get the idea that WInhill will be advanced in the future. Why isn't Balmab, dollet...etc.

They will also be advanced.But they will not be a city anymore.Just Winhill,Timber and maybe Shumi village.Of course I am talking about Sam Hill time.

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And my deduction from the hints on time compressed world is that no one know it nor it even existed. Look more like you are making this up.

How many times do I had to say that WOTC already reigns over the world of FF8?
And it becomes a major factor to hide secrets.

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Since everyone can time travel, the people of Winhill just travel back to the past and eliminate "X" and story ends since now we have people of the Future Winhill getting in the picture. This is just getting more and more absurd.

ATTENTION:People don´t know they can time travel.Only X knows how to do it.

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And why? What had he gotto do with Hyne and all the story?

The legend of Hyne is just a legend.Nothing more.
Usually a true story will became corrupted as long as time passes.This is what we call a legend.This is what I think is the thruth about the legend:
Hyne´s skin symbolizes the body of a sorceress.
The other "Half body" symbolizes the counsciousness of the person possessing that sorceress.
The "cowardy" picture at Ulti´s castle symbolizes this.On the picture we see a skelector dressing out a meat body.
I think Ellone was able to send Vascaroons counsciousness to the future and perceive the link between X and the possessed sorceress.Through someone´s eyes he was able to see X and even hear his/her name.
Vascaroon then painted a symbolic picture on the art gallery about his visions and tell the other persons about that.
It was Vascaroon which saved Julia from the "evil dragon" with his love.Julia´s counsciousness wins over Hyne due to her happiness.Julia then told Vascaroon that she was possessed but he don´t believe it until Elle sent his counsciousness to the Future.However the Zebalga tribe didn´t believe her and she was taken as a trophy against Centra.
Vascaroon though told them the thruth and they were upset.They thought Hyne was some kind of a sorceress and looked for her for revenge.However they didn´t find her because he/she lives on the future.
But one day,Hyne possessed the entire Propagator dinasty and a sad end awaited the ancients.
Nothing was loosed though Elle send her counsciousness to many times being able to change History(it happened before she was possessed).
Many sad events led Vascaroon to become Laguna.
"Hyne" was the name heard by Vascaroon when his counsciousness was on the Future.
However "Hyne" is the name of the possessor spelled wrongly.

"Hyne" is not the real name but a mispelling of the name.

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