I doubt you're a Naive. Or if you are then there must be another. It's too advantageous for the mafia.
I doubt you're a Naive. Or if you are then there must be another. It's too advantageous for the mafia.
Oh god, that's right. Fsk it, I don't know what I'm up to any longer.
Well, you mention Zhuge Liang blew your first investigation as well, right? Since Cao Cao is town, you originally were told he was guilty before it was corrected, right? What if the mistakes came about because Zhuge is dumb and kept on screwing up the result because your cop role is a little different? Maybe he thought Naive meant your results were backwards until he remembered and made amends (albeit terribly).
We just gotta think, "If we thought like HC and were screwing things up, how would we do it?"
I want to read through Zhao Yun's posts and see who he played friends with.
Nah, Cao Cao came back as innocent. Sima Yi got a PM saying "guilty" then "woops no sorry he's innocent" before the night ended, and Xiahou Dun got a guilty and Zhuge didn't realise it until halfway through today when we'd all been going back and forth on the idea. I had considered the idea that I was getting reverse results, but yeah it makes no sense with Cao Cao coming up clean. I think pretty much I can only be a cop who has just picked townies repeatedly and been given wrong results by Zhuge or a Naive cop and will only get innocent, unless there is some other kind of cop that I could be. Random cop or whatever is? IDK.
By messing up the names? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhang Jiao
Is Jiro at fault here then? Ha ha ha.
I don't think Zhuge would bother amending the results for a Random cop, what's the point of it?
My girl wants to go out to get something to eat, so I think I'll do that. I'm through running my mouth only to find my own foot shoved in it. I'm going to let intelligent players do some magic and sort things out today. What do you guys call that trout, reasoning?
y halo thar zhang jiao, car 4 concubine???
Also yeah I guess you're right, I really don't know what the smurf right now. I blame Sun Quan, massive ponce that he is. Disgrace to his father and brother.
So have we any ideas for the moment.
What's everyone opinion on Ma Chao? Now he doesn't seem to scream suspicious to me but I have noticed something in his posts. He seems to be pulling the stuff I've been pulling for the majority of this game, posting without real substance. I've been trying to improve my newbie little tactics recently but I fail to see much improvement in ma chaos posts in terms of real information. This is just pure speculation at the moment but I may look into this a bit more.
Speculation drives investigation. Keep it up. But I don't think a lack of substance in this case is reason for suspicion. But its definitely a piece of information to note.
I will make sure to keep note of this. How about the 2 people I've noticed being outrageously inactive. I know one of them has a broken monitor or something of the sort but I seem to have forgotten which one. Zhang Fei and Huang Gui are the two fellows I'm talking about in this situation. One of them has a valid excuse but the other... I do not believe so. Opinions?
COME AND WATCH HOW MA CHAO FIGHTS A BATTLE!
I love Ma Chao. I had never really given him much playtime in the games before DW7, but man he is a beast to end all beasts in that game. Especially mine, seeing as I've rinsed him out so hard. I very much enjoy watching how Ma Chao fights a battle!
In all seriousness, idk. I honestly don't think he's done anything blatantly suspicious right now, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't considering investigating him when I ended up plumping for Sima Yi.
I have a couple of people in mind, but it's literally nothing more than an iffy feeling at the moment, have no real evidence to go on. Maybe come tomorrow I'll have something a little more concrete to go on.
I think Jiang Wei was the one with the broken monitor excuse, but Meng's right in saying Ma Chao and Huang Gai have been pretty quiet.
I think the mafia have been dealt a big blow by all these accidental revelations of innocence and they're struggling to reassert themselves. Hence the "lie low and wait for the townies to talk themselves into lynching each other" strategy.
I don't remember ever seeing Huang Gai post, but it might be the weird names getting me confused.
Guys.... this may be shocking, but I found undeniable incriminating evidence for Ma Chaos betrayal...
YouTube - DW5: Bai Di Castle-Ma Chao's Charge
This is just... I don't know what to say
(SPOILER)The bastard!
!yas I ,mih hcnyl
To be fair, the only reason Ma Chao sided with Liu Bei was because he was left outcast when the glorious and righteous governer Cao Cao had his dad assasinated, and on his own he didn't have anywhere near the resources to attempt to take revenge. By all accounts Liu Bei never actually trusted that Ma Chao was on his side so gave him a high rank to appease him and then kept him the smurf away from him because he was afraid of Ma Chao. /RotK nerd
How long is there left in the day? I'm hungry and I have a hankering for pancakes.
Guan Yu would say that wouldn't he. He didn't believe Ma Chao or Huang Zhong had the madskillz to be one of the Five Tiger Generals. If Liu Bei didn't trust him, Zhuge Liang sure did. He was frequently used in the northern campaign along with his cousin, Ma Dai, who was even trusted with the execution order of Wei Yan. /RotK nerdQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
actually, he might've died before the northern campaigns. I forget.
Ma Chao is my favourite tiger general, I just size 7 fonted him, what more do you want :colbert:
but I'm sure he was present for the southern ones...which were hard-fought against *gasp* Meng Huo.
Well, this mafia game just got real.
Also yeah IIRC Ma Chao/Dai were the Nanman campaigns in the south (THIS IS WHY MENG HUO IS TRYING TO SOIL HIS NAME!!!). Deranged Jiang Wei screaming BENEVOLENCE and single handedly killing off the Shu Empire were the northern campaigns.
Quite real indeed... vote count/time left in the game? I've gotta go places soon. Places that don't include massive battles.... heh
It was that blasted Deng Ai's haxor through the mountains that really would've sent Jiang Wei over the edge.
Okay, serious. Pancake time.
I wouldn't worry about Meng Huo. If this game is true to history, he can get lynched up to seven times before he actually goes. xD
what the smurf, how have I taken this long to realise this thread needs some soundtrack? knob head.
YouTube - DYNASTY WARRIORS 7 BGM - Crush 'em All DW flavour!
YouTube - ORCHESTRAL GAME CONCERT - THE BEST SELECTION - 12) Sangokushi II "Main Theme" RotK flavour! (this song is awesome.)
pick your poison. this thread is so much better with soundtrack <3
Greatest. Role. Ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
My vote is staying on Fei for the reasons I posted. He voted with a known mafia on day 1, and hasn't done much since. Also many of the remaining players would have had to turn on their own. That's a definite strategy but I'm not thinking it was a Day 1 strategy based on what I'm seeing.
As for Ma Chao, yeah he hasn't done anything but I feel like he's at least been more vocal than Fei. Also, Meng why do you keep arguing people are scum by comparing them to how you're playing? :lol:
Yes, I come off aggressive in my argueing but that's just how I play, and why I get voted out time and again. You got to put pressure on people. No one ever gets that. xD
I have to be honest, this game is making me want to play DW.
This thread just got that much better, thanks to the soundtrack. Also... hmm that would be the sexiest role ever, 7 lynch power *.* I would be invincible!!!
So how about being offtopic... want to revert back to our srs bsns attitude?
I have no-one to vote for legitimatley right now and I'm getting a wee bit tired so for now (but not permanently):
##Vote Zhang Fei
But if I am wrong please show me the light.
I'm considering voting Ma Chao, but Guan's said he's considering investigating him, so maybe I'll hold off until he does that (if he choose to, hopefully, he'll continue to tell us). Huang Gai has been inactive the most, I'd say, coinciding with my theory that the mafia are playing the "lie low and let the townies lynch each other" strategy, but voting for an inactive has backfired on me in the past (Jiang Wei).
Still got some time, right? I'm going to go back and see what everyone has against Zhang Fei.
Nothing outright against him. Just seems kinda inactive and I'm tired and so I wanna lynch someone soon. But if you have a better suggestion I'll go with that. Too tired to think up reasons anymore. Tiring depressing day.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Yue Ying
Well people, I've got to go away and fight some massive battles by mashing the attack button for a few hours. I may or may not be back by the end of the day... Hopefully I will but I won't get my hopes up. I wish I could provide a solid vote but alas I'm at a total loss for now. For being so late in the game there hasn't exactly been a surplus amount of information against anyone left...
I guess I'll settle for Zhang Fei for now :l
##vote: [M] Zhang Fei
I may change this if I DO get back but that's unlikely, carry on.
Isn't there only like 3 minutes left in the day? Where's the mod?
Seems like Zhang Fei won't be around to defend himself. And I haven't got a proper vote count in my head, but I'm pretty Lu Meng's double vote has him well in front.
It won't be worth anything now but
##Vote: Huang Gai
Reasoning: Zhang Fei's been inactive inactive, Huang's been inactive a lot, but around just enough to claim he's contributing. Not a solid reason, I know. Apologies all.
pretty sure, I mean.
Though I certainly wouldn't mind being "pretty Lu Meng"
Well, since others had come out flashing their roles like it meant nothing, my role is nothing special, as I'm just a plain ol' peasant. (...of Justice.) No point in hiding it any longer, but it's no use going after me. I will do my best to help town scourange this place of scum though!
Now, I'm gonna take a look at our remaining players and determine out of everyone, who we should start considering at scum.
Out of the list on the first post, which also needs to be updated, btw. It appears that we have at least four confirmed roles (or at least innocent as we know so far.).
Confirmed
[M] Cao Cao - Confirmed Governor
[M] Guan Yu - Confirmed Cop (Naive, or something smurfed up because of our hose.)
[M] Xiahou Dun - Innocent reading. Some protection role who
[M] Sima Yi - Innocent reading.
Now for everyone else. Here's who I feel are safe.
Safe (to my knowledge)
[M] Ma Chao - obviously. I can't yet confirm my peasant role, but I will tell you that if Guan investigates me, I will get an innocent reading.
[M] Meng Huo
[M] Lu Meng
[M] Sun Shang Xiang - considering her player has a baby, I don't think she's scum, or I might have heard something from her by accident at #eoff about something relating to mafia. Though I doubt it.
[M] Zhang Jiao
And the following, I find are questionable.
Questionable
[M] Yue Ying - En primer lugar se escribe en espaρol. .hsinapS ni gnikaeps nehT Now she's typing normally. I don't know what to really think about the role she was given. I do find it a little bit weird, and she has been aligning herself with town, perhaps to make us feel comfortable around her? I don't know really.
[M] Sun Ce
[M] Huang Gai - Too inactive, at least today I haven't seen him post.
[M] Zhang Fei - Hasn't posted today either, but I do remember seeing him blasting us for trying to lynch our "Jester" during that fiasco.
This is just my thoughts so far, so take it as it is. :monster:
Whoa, a lot has been posted while I was preparing my post! I guess you guys are free to dig into what I had to say.
Does my double vote not confirm me as townie. Since the general role is called "Double Voting Townie".Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
Oh, in any case, I'll place my vote on Zhang Fei, for this lovely post which he made to perhaps stop us from lynching Zhou Yun. This was also his last post made, and hasn't post since then.
##Vote: Zhang FeiQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhang Fei
Zhang fei, I apologize if you end up appearing tonight to defend yourself because I won't be here. To the rest of you, good night and good luck.
Due to the fact that everything occurs while I am asleep, I have actually done nothing this game. I have not had anything to do with night actions whatsoever, much to my embarrassment. I had hoped to actually be of use.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhang Jiao
I am not above destroying you to get some exercise though, Zhang Jiao. Be warned!
J
Well while you're here can you do us a favour and confirm that HC sent me the wrong information? The PM he sent me to tell me that was titled something like "you're gonna kill me" xD also had his proposition that he would confirm this in the thread, either that or his next one
I can confirm that Guan Yu received incorrect information.
Handling night actions can be confusing, so I would appreciate if you all rolled with the punches.
In addition, I believe the day is up. Bear with me while I give you a vote count and flavour.
J
Final Vote Count
[M] Guan Yu (0) -Sun Shang Xiang,Meng Huo,Zhang Jiao
[M] Xiahou Dun (1) -Guan Yu,Sima Yi, Sun Ce,Ma Chao
[M] Zhang Fei (6) -Zhang Jiao, Xiahou Dun, Sima Yi, Lu Meng, Meng Huo, Ma Chao
[M] Sima Yi (1) - Zhang Jiao
[M] Huang Gai (1) - Yue Ying
Zhang Fei was meditating by the pond. The fish watched as a shadow stalked up behind him and lopped off his head. The blood killed the fish. Tough luck, huh?
Zhang Fei was Mr Yang played by Jessweeee♪!
Zhang Jiao decided to take a moonlit stroll. As he passed by a pond, he saw the slumped body of Mr Yang and a discarded blade.
"Ah, well, I guess that's like it, then, huh," he said as he committed seppuku.
Zhang Jiao was Mr Yin played by Genius Lynx!
Night begins now. Send in your actions quick smart please :jess:
Oops, Jiro forgot something!
DING DING DING
Yue Ying, you have won! you may now leave the town and pursue your ultimate destiny!
Yue Ying was the crazy peasant yellow turban played beautifully (especially considering yue ying is zhuge liang's wife) by Mo Nercy, go on you sad apple, take a bow!
THE DAY NOBODY DIED
Strangely enough, no one died last night. Day 5 has begun
...That's... weird.
This game keeps getting stranger by the minute. As wonderful as it is that no one died last night, the question remains, why the hell didn't anyone die last night? Is there a doctor in the house anyone? I am pretty clueless about who to suspect, especially since nothing is what it seems to be. :O_O:
Well yesterday WAS a mental clustersmurf, while that isn't anything new on this game it doesn't help matters at all.
I theorize that mafia must have targeted our cop, and the doctor, whoever that may be, have decided to protect him that night. So if that had happened, then no one died because of it. However, the way this game has been played, I don't know if that's what really happened. This game is too messed up for my brain to compute.
Tell me about it :|
I assume another slow start, and I'm probably going to be going to bed earlier than usual (in 2hours) so I will probably miss out on a lot of the game.
I'm not a doctor but I do make men feel good after a visit ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Ce
I love how the game starts just as I'm going to bed... With the way this game has been up until now, all we can do is go after someone who has not been confirmed Good.
omg nobody died!! :eek: and yue ying was a crazy turban peasant guy! i guess thats why he acted crazy! things r getting really wierd!!
sun shang i agree with you! and i love your avatar too :kiss: it is late and no one will come out and play. :(
but now do we find the bad guyz. i don't know about u but i'd like to know who the cop man visited! mostly because he's a cutie. :love:
Yes, I would like to here from Guan Yi as well. Who did you investigate Guan, and what have you learned?
hi sun ce!! wow both the suns are out its like i'm on star wars. :lol:
who do you think is a killer sun ce? we cant hide behind guan 4ever. if he doesnt show then we gots to pick someone! :redface:
i dont know about u but i dont like that ma chao. he posts some little things then goes back to hide again. i dun like it!
Hmmm, like you said Ma Chao doesn't say much to go on. The other night when I had tied up the vote count to force the day to be extended to give me time to investigate (I had missed most of the day because of sleep and work) Ying Yue voted for Jiang We and gave him a majority vote which ended in the lynching of a innocent Peasant, I was very suspicious of her. I don't know what a Yellow Turban Peasant is but I guess its not Mafia since it wasn't red. At the same time my little sister Sun Shang Xiang posted and I asked her to vote and retie it up but she did not reply until after the day ended. Now, I understand real life pulls you away from internet games, however, I never understood why she didn't take the initiative to tie the votes up again so the search for scum could continue. She acts innocent but is she?
Is anyone else not surprised? :D
The way this game is going, Xiahou Dun, nothing should be surprising nothing makes much sense.
Oh about last day...
Yue Ying won probably because she completed all her taks. At day 1/0 she had to get us to speak spanish (i don't remember anyone doing so though, i did say "non parlo espagnol" but that's not spanish lol), then it was in spoilers (we did that), and backwards (we also did). I think that explains it.
The Zhangs were related but knew nothing. Poor Jiao even voted for Fei xD
However, none of that helps us root out the remaining scumbags. I am very tired, it's way late here and I can barely keep my eyes open. Hopefully, everyone will be able to help me solve this mystery.
Er, please insert this line: ...come post their insight and... between the words to and help :eep:
Well Big Brother, yes I was away and if you don't remember, the host actually commented saying to please not tie it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Ce
Also I went to bed last night expecting to wake up to 20 pages to have to read through... I come back, an it's like 10 posts if that. xD
It's Saturday what did you expect? :p
Hey guys, I just want to apologise for not being very active this game, especially yesterday where I didn't post at all. Real life stuff just got in the way, but I'm here now, so hopefully I can help sniff out some scum. I'm just going to give the thread a quick read over and then get back with my thoughts.
Ok guys lets stir this up. Lets get some posting going. Huang Gai, defend yourself for no reason!
I'm not scum.
(That what you were looking for?)
So nobody will play huh? -.-
Lemme present this theory then :
The people who voted for me are damn suspicious. Why? Because...think about it. You're mafia, and suddenly a non mafian is declared guilty...What do you do? Vote him of course! :jess: It's true that you all unvoted afterwards but that's normal because you would be questioned otherwise. So the mafia are people who voted for me :
Guan Yu - He's the good guy so not him.
Sima Yi - He turned innocent but you never know.
Sun Ce - He's the only one who didn't take back his vote. Though that can be explained.
Ma Chao - Could be
Meng Huo - Could be
Sunshine and Lu took it easy and didn't do anything. That can mean nothing or everything. But they're less suspicious than the rest.
And Huang Gai didn't show up at all so...
In the end it's either Sun Ce, Ma Chao or Meng Huo. It has to be at least one of you.
But which one? :\
-TTYL I have to study philosophy (smurf you Kant!)
So you want to point your finger in my direction Xiahou Dun? Well, I've got a theory of my own:
Even Guan Yu has pretty much admitted he is more than likely a Naive Cop which would mean that he would only get innocent no matter who he investigates.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Guan Yu
Zhuge Lang only confirmed that Guan Yu was given incorrect information. If Guan Yu's role is "Naive Cop" and he was originally told that you were guilty, that information would be incorrect for his role. I think everyone jumped to the conclusion that this post confirmed you as innocent much to quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhuge Liang
This game is really off the hook, and nothing is what it seems, and you seem to be innocent but is it a reality? I really don't think you are, and to prove it:
##Vote Xiahou Dun
So you don't think my reasoning stands? I think it stands pretty good.
And I do not believe that he is Naive. He simply chose 3 innocent people to investigate. The fact that Zhuge sent him a guilty report is proof of that, because you can't send a guilty result to a Naive. He corrected it very late (not like the first time), and why is that? Because this time he had mixed up the investigations. He probably took me for someone else, hence the fact why he said that he had broken the game.
And I'm not pointing fingers. I'm just stating a possibility. But given your reaction I believe it's quite a possible possibility.
I'm really tired of trying to prove my innocence. What else do you want me to do? Show you my PM? I can't do that :p.
Also we can be 100% sure that the mafia targeted Guan. The doctor obviously protected him. Now think, would the mafia have targeted a Naive cop?
I don't think we have a Naive cop either. If we did, it would mean we might have an extra cop around, and I don't think that's a possibility. So I'm inclined to believe Guan's results so far. Yesterday he said that he would investigate me, and I said in response that he would get innocent because of my role as peasant. I do hope that he confirms my innocence.
So if he does confirm it, that would mean we have five confirmed innocents alive, or six if Yue Ying is still around. I don't know if winning means she's allowed to stop playing. Also, Sun Ce is one of the few people remaining that I found questionable, meaning that he could be scum.
I hope I'm not looking too much into this, but I do find this quote a bit strange that I thought I should bring it up to hear what SSX has to say.
Would that make you a Prostitute then?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Shang XiangI'm not a doctor but I do make men feel good after a visit ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Ce
sorry i havent been in this thread everyone. as a mom i have to look after my babies u know. ;)
ma chao thats an interesting accusation. r u saying that sun shang may be sleeping with the enemy? :jokey:
xiahou dun i remember u saying ur ability can protect people. did u protect some1 in the night? we got really lucky and im really happy all my friends are still here!! :kiss:
I don't think he protected anyone last night, or else he'd be a goner. Remember what he also said about his role?
Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
Also, what is up with your typing, Sima Yi? :colbert:
thank u ma chao for ur reminder. how silly of me to forget sumthing like that. but id like to hear if he used his power neway because it may be helpful. dont u agree?
y dont u like my typing ma chao? r u trying to make me mad? :mad2: did u see that question i asked u?
Sorry I wasn't around today guys. I was also taking care of babies................baby cattle I mean. Now I have to agree with Ma Chao, as I find Sun Ce a rather suspicious character. And voting for an already confirmed townie, are you suicidal? You must be so I have no problem in helping you get there.
##Vote: [M] Sun Ce
Why would the mafia necessarily have gone after Guan? They could have easily gone after Cao Cao or Lu Meng. My personal opinion is that the mafia targeted Lu Meng, he is the one player that is the most dangerous to them with his 2 vote power.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
Lu Meng is just as dangeous to town as well if the mafia plays their cards right with him, but that is true he would be a danger to mafia if he cast both his votes on one of them. However, I don't think he was targeted, but we don't even know for sure.
Okay I'm back from my ciddie distraction. I have a few things to say before I disappear for a while again.
1) I'm exhausted so I probably won't post for the remained of (my) day, it 9:30pm where I live so this is indeed strange. I will probably pass out by 12 but I certainly do not have my head working enough to continue mafia which I apologize
2) I will be gone for the most of tomorrow due to me having plans with some friends. This will probably last for 6-8hours and don't expect me to post during that time because I won't be around to do so.
3)There doesn't seem to be much happening at the moment but regardless I may as well catch the crap up -sigh-
i dont like the way ma chao talk about the way i post. :mad: he also dun answer my questions. :mad2:
##vote: ma chao
lu meng i c ur vote is on sun ce and that is good becuz sun ce is on my short list of ppl i dont trust along with ma chao. and that means sun ce has 2 votes cuz of ur role right? what is the name of it?
really not even one page of new posts in an entire shift. you have like and hour or something left. Jiro can handle this one.
I never said I didn't like the way your typing. It's just different from how you typed yesterday, that's all. Also, I didn't notice your question earlier, so I'll go answer that.
She did say that she makes men feel good after feeling them, so it's possible that she may have slept with someone last night, and if she's a Prostitute, she may have roleblocked someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sima Yi
wth, even with the Ciddies distractions?! You're not giving us time man! :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Zhuge Liang
fine, but the 72 hour gap begins tonight, you have until jiro closes it.
OK. Too busy with the Ciddies to play Mafia, but before I go to bed, I have an idea:
Let's all vote for ourselves and see what happens?
If you do that, then I will close the thread and never reopen it.
You guys have got an extension of three hours due to Extreme Wheelies. Also, the Ciddies.
EDIT: Holy crap Zhuge Liang is back! :o
.... you worry me Jiro, you really do.
I worry me too sometimes. Don't worry though, I've got everything covered on this end :aimsun: Post it notes everywhere tell me what all these buttons do. Except the big red one *pokes*
*town blows up* *game ends*
actually he just turned on my blender.
Milkshakes for everyone!
I was well aware that posting my convictions here concerning Xiahou Dun would indeed bring the threat of the lynch upon me, however I felt the good far outweighed the risk and I am here to once again make my stand. From the beginning Xiahou Dun has come across as scummy to me because I couldn't understand his reasoning that he would not use the power of his role to save the town, I mean we are here to make sure the town wins, aren't we? Not only that, our hosts originally told Guan Yu he was guilty, how can he make such a dreadful mistake? Well, there are a couple of reason how, one is that Guan Yu is a naive cop (like I presented earlier) and that Zhuge Liang just messed up and gave a normal reading before he realized that he should have given him and innocent reading. However, there is another reason that I am sure no one has thought of and I am going to present it to you now. There is a mafia role called the Usurper whose primary goal is to eliminate the Godfather and take his place. So, yes Xiahou Dun, I believe you could very easily throw Lei Bui under the bus and take his place. The Godfather always gets an innocent reading but being a rookie at hosting Zhuge Liang could have easily forgotten that your new role in the Mafia also comes with the protections of the Godfather. So either way I find you to be guilty. I stand convinced of it. I reiterate that the hosts never confirmed you innocent; they only said Guan Yu had received misinformation.
I know this is an unpopular thing for me to do, but we can't always do what everybody else is doing, sometimes we must stand by what we feel to be right. I only ask for one thing if you do lynch me; when you see that I am just a lowly peasant trying to make sense of the actions of those around me, that you look into what I have stated here and you seriously weigh it for what its worth. Unlike Xiahou Dun I am willing to die to protect others.
[jiro]Edited to remove crazy coding bulltrout. Post has remained the same - J[/jiro]
:/ when one makes a grand statement speaking up for themselves this tit should not happen!
*Sighs*
I will try again:
I was well aware that posting my convictions here concerning Xiahou Dun would indeed bring the threat of the lynch upon me, however I felt the good far outweighed the risk and I am here to once again make my stand. From the beginning Xiahou Dun has come across as scummy to me because I couldn't understand his reasoning that he would not use the power of his role to save the town, I mean we are here to make sure the town wins, aren't we? Not only that, our hosts originally told Guan Yu he was guilty, how can he make such a dreadful mistake? Well, there are a couple of reason how, one is that Guan Yu is a naive cop (like I presented earlier) and that Zhuge Liang just messed up and gave a normal reading before he realized that he should have given him and innocent reading. However, there is another reason that I am sure no one has thought of and I am going to present it to you now. There is a mafia role called the Usurper whose primary goal is to eliminate the Godfather and take his place. So, yes Xiahou Dun, I believe you could very easily throw Lei Bui under the bus and take his place. The Godfather always gets an innocent reading but being a rookie at hosting Zhuge Liang could have easily forgotten that your new role in the Mafia also comes with the protections of the Godfather. So either way I find you to be guilty. I stand convinced of it. I reiterate that the hosts never confirmed you innocent; they only said Guan Yu had received misinformation.
I know this is an unpopular thing for me to do, but we can't always do what everybody else is doing, sometimes we must stand by what we feel to be right. I only ask for one thing if you do lynch me; when you see that I am just a lowly peasant trying to make sense of the actions of those around me, that you look into what I have stated here and you seriously weigh it for what its worth. Unlike Xiahou Dun I am willing to die to protect others.
Ah, I've had it with you! You did not take back your vote yesterday, you're dissing Guan's investigations when yesterday you obviously blindly believed it, and what you actually think I'm scummy because of my role (i already gave you my reason's about that, stop clinging on it!)? If you think I'm being truthful about my role then why vote me? I'm a town role, your job is to find mafia. You smell scum to me. (You're obviously trying to start trout on me again seeing how I exposed you) Nobody was trying to incriminate you though. I wonder why you took it so personally when i clearly stated that you are on the same level as Ma Chao and Meng Huo.
Also seeing how you're not considering's Guan's other investigation adds even more to your shame. That turned guilty at first too right? ;) And that was probably Cao Cao (guess what : he's really innocent)
##Vote : Sun Ce
I would like Zhuge Liang to clear this once and for all because it's really been pissing me off.
Alright, day is over, let me bring you some flavour!
WHAT?
Final Vote Count
[M] Xiahou Dun (1) - Sun Ce
[M] Sun Ce (3) - Lu Meng, Xiahou Dun
[M] Ma Chao (1) - Sima Yi
Sun Ce was admiring his chiseled features in the mirror when the knock came at the door.
"Time for your speech sir."
Sun Ce took the stage and delivered his speech. Then they hung him from the gallows.
Sun Ce was a Yellow Turban Member, formerly a Peasant played by Jentleness. Excellent work Jen!
The night phase begins now.
Sun Shang Xiang was annoyed that her family didn't like her fighting on the battlefield.
"Fine," she said, "I'll become a slut!"
Sure that's a logical next step :greenie: But then the mafia came along and killed her. Too bad, Sunshine.
[M] Sun Shang Xiang was a Manipulative Concubine played by the Fresh Prince of Mel Air.
Day begins now. With only 8 players left, it takes 5 for a majority lynch.
Ha! I knew something was up with SSX and her sluttiness. xD
Anyway, Looks like there's eight of us now, and quite a few of us are safe, and then there are those few that around. Guan Yu is clearly a cop, so that rules him out as scum. His investigations of Sima Yi, Cao Cao, and Xiahou Dun were found innocent, so we can safely rule them out as scum. If we find out that I've been found innocent by Guan, as he promised he would investigate me, which I hope is the case, we can also rule me out as scum. That leaves us with three remaining players.
[M] Lu Meng
[M] Huang Gai
[M] Meng Huo
Now let's also remember that Lu Meng is a double voter, so he's somewhat of a trick. So I think we need to be careful who we decide to get rid of first. I'm going to suggest Huang Gai. What do you all think?
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Well hello friends, looks like your in a bind. But don't worry, your old buddy the Gipper is here to save the town once again.
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Now, yesterday saw the death of Sun Ce, the former peasant turned Yellow Turban. Based on the color and the role change, I have to assume this means cult. Yue Ying also had this word in his name but at the time I thought nothing of it because he had a weird role with a weird win condition so who the hell cares. The point is, Yue Ying may have been a second cult member. Or maybe they were alligned with everyone and something, but again it doesn't really matter.
What does matter is this: if there is a cult it really means none of us are cleared. Anyone could have been recruited at any time, and none of our previous posts would prove anything. In the past when their were cults, power roles were unrecruitable, so Cao Cao, Guan Yu, and Xiahou Dun should be ok, assuming they are telling the truth with their roles (though I don't doubt Cao Cao or Guan Yu).
BUT Sun Ce voted for Xiahou Dun so he probably isn't cult. Also Lu Meng basically took out Sun so they probably aren't cult either.
That doesn't mean of course that they aren't mafia.
Did I mention that I really hate cults? Seriously, it makes NONE of their posts in the past worth analyzing. Alliance changing roles in mafia suck and I'm pretty annoyed to find out they are in this game, though not really surprised.
Cult aside, we still have a killer to find, and that's what I'm going to focus on finding for now.
I have to admit, Ma Chao, I've been pretty suspicious of you. I've ran the numbers of the votes and who posted when and it just didn't add up with you. But yesterday you seemed pretty active and on a day like that with no posts you would expect the mafia to just lie back and enjoy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
You are also making sense right now and in this game that goes a long way.
Huang Gui has been barely active, so the problem is we don't have much to work with. But at least it won't take much time to analyze his posts and I'll do so now.
Lu Meng is someone I've been thinking about. I always thought his double vote power made him town. But what if he's a double voting mafia? When asked about his role he called it 'Double Voting Townie'. Townie. Not Peasant. I tried to get the name out of him yesterday but time ran out. A double voting mafia would be a pretty broken role but we can't rule anything out in this crazy game.
As for Meng Huo, I put him at the bottom of that list only because his Day 1 actions didn't indicate that he was in league with Liu. But that could have been a clever ploy (which I guess worked).
This was the fourth vote for Liu, putting him in the majority. For some reason I don't see a mafia doing this (especially a less active one).Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Huang Gai
This was one of the last votes for Zhao when his goose was already cooked. One thing to note is that there was confusion at this point whether he was a Jester or not but Huang didn't seem to care. Perhaps he already knew the answer? Later:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Huang Gai
Predicting the future and people's reaction to it?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Huang Gai
To me, these results are inconclusive. If he's mafia he's playing his cards right, and he's playing the inactive angle brilliantly. He definitely needs to post more.
God dammit people, I'm not going to sit here and talk to myself. Hopefully this is just the weekend and you freaks will be back tomorrow. I'm holding up on more analysis until then.
Guan Yu, please sign on and tell us your investigations because we're running out of players and time.
Huang Gai is currently my top suspect. Yes, he has been rather quiet this entire game. Of the remaining eight players, he has the lowest number of posts. That means either he's pretty busy during the daytime, but quite active during the night. And it's might be too late to start looking at his posts, but not taking any active part in helping town finding the bad guys, I say he's worth getting rid of.
##Vote: Huang Gai
And Sima Yi, it's okay that you still feel suspicious about me, and I won't lie, but I don't particularly like it and it has me feeling a little suspicious of you as well, but it's purely mutual at the moment. We'll wait until we here from Guan about any investigation he's done last night.
Hi@ Meng Huo's replacement here. How ya doing?
It's could be that there's only one mafia left (given Guan's innocent only investigations), so that means that that mafian has to lay low and not draw unnecessary suspicion on himself. Which is what Huang is doing, but I dunno :S
I don't know whether whether Huang will show up to defend himself or not, and if he does, he has some splaining to do. He can't stay quiet this long without going unnoticed, and it's time we rat him out for it.
As I already said, I am a double voting townie ROLE. Its called "Influential Commoner". And I said this about 15 pages back. I'm not going looking for the exact post. Zhen Ji asked me so I told her.
That was @Sima Yi.
After 30 minutes of trawling here was what I originally poster although it was to Sun Shang Xiang not Zhen Ji as I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu MengDouble Voting townie role. I'm the "Influential Commoner".Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Shang Xiang
Either way it's Huang Gai for now.
##Vote : Huang Gai
And please a time update. We don't want this to end like yesterday :p.
I'm not going to vote for Huang until he gets a chance to tell his side and defend himself.
12 hours left, though I might be a tiny bit (half hour) late on the day end.
I'm sure you can all manage a vote count for now. Keep it updated and it's less work, yeah? :p
Ah, I remember that now. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu MengAfter 30 minutes of trawling here was what I originally poster although it was to Sun Shang Xiang not Zhen Ji as I thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Lu MengDouble Voting townie role. I'm the "Influential Commoner".Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Sun Shang Xiang
First you say I'm 'cleared' because of the cop investigation and now you are a little suspicious of me because I am suspicious of you? You, an unconfirmed role who hasn't really done anything of use for us?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
Where's that blasted cop?
Vote count:
2x Huang Gai
Well it seems the spotlight turns on me. Except there's no real reason for it, aside from I've been inactive, for which there isn't really a defense, except 'I've been busy'. You'll all choose to either accept it, or reject it and lynch me anyway. I haven't done much in game to prove my innocence, aside from placing a vote on Liu Bei who flipped scum, so there isn't much else I can say.
Care to give us any more than that?
Such as?
Is that it? Role claim or something. A statement like that right now could get you lynched. If you are town, try and survive.
I don't plan on roleclaiming, but if you have any questions aside from that I'll try and answer them.
Who do you suspect, etc. Coming in just to defend yourself doesn't really help us and it may actually hurt you more. If you are town you should not be afraid to die if it helps bring down the mafia. So do that!
Well aside from me, the only two other people that you all seem to think could be scum are Ma Chao and Meng Huo, but personally I think you've all been to hasty in accepting that Xiahou Dun and Sima Yi are innocent, just because Guan Yu investigated them. Maybe I'm just suspicious because Zhuge messed up the results, which it's a possibility that that did honestly happen, but I can't help thinking that one of those two could still be scum.
Definitely safe, is Cao Cao and Guan Yu. Also Lu Meng seems like a safe bet as a town, but I don't think we can instantly rule him out, though I wouldn't be confident enough to place a vote on him.
I think that covers everybody. The one thing I will ask of people is to not majority lynch before you've heard from Guan Yu. Depending on who he's investigated, it could change the game drastically at this point.
I think that's what we have been waiting for, but Guan seems to have gone missing. So has Cao Cao now that you mention it.
There's still time though.
Well I'm not content to just sit here and wait. I guess I'll go through the thread again. Maybe SSX clued us in as to what she did with her role and that may provide a clue. It really didn't help that she died without being able to explain it. I'm assuming Concubine = prostitute = some kind of role blocker, but the 'manipulative' part of it is what gets me.
I already checked, but found nothing :S
She even said that she was asleep during the night or something.
Ma Chao - Days 1 and 2
Quick vote for Liu Bei for dumb reason. Not really anything since it's Day 1 and they're all dumb reaons, but this could have been planned since:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
Making up plots to get him lynched. Waiting for others to drive the discussion instead of driving it himself. Quick unvote for Liu Bei.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma ChaoIt didn't really work, so nice try. :monster:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Liu Beioh yeah herp derp i'mma blatently misquote you on day 0 so you'll get lynched. :monster:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
I'll go ahead and remove my vote. I wanna wait for the other players to chime in before casting another vote!
##UnVote: Liu Bei
Thanks for that information. It was almost as if you had some inside knowledge of what the role was...Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
Immediately on the defensive for something no one even brought up (until now). Instead of trying to find mafia he only cares about clearing himself. This was his last post of Day 2 and it was early in that day, so he didn't participate in any of the Cao Cao business. How convienent for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
I'm going out for a few hours, but I should be back well before the end of the day, unless a majority lynch occurs before then.
WOW I have missed alot haven't I :lol: Would it be possible to get a list from mod of all player accounts still in play? I know it's probably on the first page of this thread but for sake of the point of the game we're at now it would be most helpful
[M] Ma Chao
[M] Lu Meng - Double Vote Townie[M] Cao Cao - Emperor [M] Xiahou Dun
[M] Guan Yu
[M] Huang Gai
[M] Meng Huo
[M] Sima Yi
I decided not to be lazy. That's how I see the game so far, sorry if I missed any other role claims
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Originally Posted by [M] Cao Cao
And Guan Yu is a Cop too right
And unsurprisingly reading the game thread tells me nothing :lol:
I guess I'll be waiting for Guan Yu then......
I share your sentiments on Ma Chao, Sima Yi. He has proven himself to be a suspicious fellow.
So, Ma Chao, protest us your innocence.
I am just a peasant, and there's nothing else I can say about it. Hopefully Guan can back me up with his investigation on me if he has done his homework. I am doing all I can to help town win, which is what we all want. right?
Whoa that means we have 4 peasants? That's five if you count Yue.
Six. ;)
And I get it now. You're the godfather. That's why you keep asking for yourself to be investigated. That's why you're so confident you'll get innocent. That's why you aren't entertaining the possibility that Guan is naive and useless. That's why you 'suggested' Liu Bei was the godfather. So we wouldn't think it was you. Am I getting warm?
##Vote: Ma Chao
No, you're off. But if you still want to entertain the idea, you probably want to think it was me who ochestrated SSX's death? Oh sure, it's all me of course. :rolleyes:
Tyrannical Dictator does sound like a Godfather role in the context of this game though but not withstanding that Ma Chao you would think at this stage if you are innocent & doing all you can to help town then you would'nt be calling for someone else to prove you innocent. You've marked your card my friend.
##Vote: Ma Chao
Seven. :D Sorry, Ma Chao, but you'll have to do better than that.
There is a very real possibility you are Godfather, and only a Godfather would so vehemntly want to be investigated.
You have a different theory?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
Oh, I know who's playing Sima Yi, now! :D
Seven vanilla's in a game ran by HC, now why do I doubt that :lol:
Do you honestly think I'd say I was vanilla after six others claimed to be?
I'm not that dumb. :laugh:
At least, I wouldn't lie about it.
No but you never know at this stage in the game ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Meng Huo
But come on, honestly I'm not that stupid. xD
Okay, so you all believe I am the godfather? Let's see how you all like me when I flip town after my lynch. So then what? Town becomes one step closer to losing, and that's not what we want.
Well Ma Chao, gonna answer Sima Yi's question?
So, Ma Chao, you claim you're innocent. But why would you so vehemntly try to defend yourself with no prior suspicion, why would you so insistently wish to be investiagted (and refuse to believe a cop may be naive)?
You just have such unusual behavior and logic it's hard to bypass.
Well I believe you're probably just a goon if that helps :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
We're really not all that close to losing, if you ask me. I bet there's only one mafia, maybe two left, tops.
I mean, there's eight people left, for crying out loud!
Let's not forget about the cult.
[M] Ma Chao - Mafia
[M] Lu Meng - Double Vote Townie
[M] Cao Cao - Emperor
[M] Xiahou Dun - not sure, earlier role claims leaves me uneasy
[M] Guan Yu - Cop
[M] Huang Gai - not sure but didn't seem to care when others were suspicious of him
[M] Meng Huo - probably vanilla
[M] Sima Yi - most likely town but I don't think he's merely vanilla
The town can still win if the cult's still left.
Oh, and ##Vote: Ma Chao.
Hmm.
I believe if the cult outlast the mafia they win unless the mod is treating them as a "2nd mafia" type faction & the game will continue until they outnumber townQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Meng Huo
Don't they have to to get everyone lynched?
hmm?Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
Literally depends on what the rules to this set up areQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Meng Huo
Hmm.
Anyway, let's say that I get lynched today, and I end up town. Seven players remain. Mafia kills another tonight, and oh, I don't know, let's say that a cult member also remains. So, that means there are two scums, one cult, and three town roles.
And the twon can still win.
But there probably isn't two of both left. :I
That is what is how the next day well turn up.
I'm evaluating the situation. :p
Okay, if that's the end result, how would you convince us your town?
Yes, town can still win if they eliminate the mafia and cult. I believe they can do it if you guys lynch the correct person. That being not me.
How eloquently explained.
So how are you not the correct person?
The cult can't recruit anymore. Most likely. The mod usually allows them to recruit four-three times. Otherwise it becomes too overpowered. We already took 2 cultists out. That means there are only 1-2 left.
If you're innocent then Ma Chao, who amongst us is a dirty scumbag then in your opinion?
There's actually 2 dirty scumbags around you know. 1 mafia 1 cult at least. :p
@Xiahou Dun What was your role supposed to be again ;)
Don't make me go through that again :G
Frankly, I don't see why there'd be much more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
Well, assuming that everyone assumptions that Meng Huo and I are two of the most suspicious players remaining, it's certainly going to be Meng. He refuses to give the slightest of hint of whatever his role is. So he may be hiding in plain sight as mafia.
But, what IS your role, Xiahou?
Dude, I just said I was a Peasant. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
That was a really weak attempt to incriminate me. :colbert:
Wait. You're also a peasant? Are you all kidding me? What is this Peasantville?
Yeah.
I wish I was something more useful. :colbert:
Like I said already 7 potential vanilla type players is unlikelyQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
Well then one of them is lying.
Okay, so let's go with the idea that Guan is naive then. Besides our confirmed Emperor, Cao Cao, anyone he investigated may be the godfather. So everyone besides Cao Cao and Guan could be our remaining mafia member.
Also when you think that it's unlikely why did you declare Meng to be vanilla then? Wouldn't that be unlikely too?
Considering Yin and Yang vanilla also that makes a grand total of 8 vanillas.
Wh would I say I'm Vanilla after so many Vanillas popped up?
Rather, why would I lie about it?
Ma Chao isn't vanilla, though. And neither is Huang Gui, I suspect. Otherwise he wouldn't have hidden his role when asked this late in the game.
What makes you think there's only one? A game this size typically has a 4 man mafia. Unless you already know, of course. :greenie:Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
Let's take a look at who's dead. Two red players, meaning two mafia are already dead. There's likely two mafia players left, and the godfather could be one of them. Of course, I don't really know at all. :greenie: