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FF8 has enc-half and enc-none learnable by Diabolos, FFX has no encounters on randomly dropped armor about halfway in the game, FFX-2 let's you steal charm bangle pretty early in the game (CH2 or 3) and there's also a lure bangle somewhere. FF12 pretty much lets you decide the encounter rate by just not running into monsters, or just running past them, ignoring their aggro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyk
But it comes with no effort at all in BD, as Vyk mentioned. The point of this counter-argument...?Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageFF8 has enc-half and enc-none learnable by Diabolos, FFX has no encounters on randomly dropped armor about halfway in the game, FFX-2 let's you steal charm bangle pretty early in the game (CH2 or 3) and there's also a lure bangle somewhere. FF12 pretty much lets you decide the encounter rate by just not running into monsters, or just running past them, ignoring their aggro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyk
Later on you also can change names.Quote:
Originally Posted by SD
He mentioned FF6 and FF7 too, and it does not come with no effort in those games.Quote:
Originally Posted by The White Wizard of FynnBut it comes with no effort at all in BD, as Vyk mentioned. The point of this counter-argument...?Quote:
Originally Posted by MirageFF8 has enc-half and enc-none learnable by Diabolos, FFX has no encounters on randomly dropped armor about halfway in the game, FFX-2 let's you steal charm bangle pretty early in the game (CH2 or 3) and there's also a lure bangle somewhere. FF12 pretty much lets you decide the encounter rate by just not running into monsters, or just running past them, ignoring their aggro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vyk
And that is exactly what he stated.
He stated that he liked the idea of earning Encounter None, and wondered why more games didn't have features like that. Mirage was just pointing out that almost all of the Final Fantasy games since have had similar features.Quote:
Originally Posted by The White Wizard of Fynn
Though none have done it as well as Bravely Default.
I'll agree that I think they should be earnable earlier in the game sometimes. Half encounter rate should be possible to get within the first few hours, I guess.
Honestly, I don't think it should be earnable. Having too high of an encounter rate can demolish a game. It's why I stopped playing the DS version of FFIII. It's a convenience and customization feature. Some people like playing to enjoy the story and bosses. Let them do that. Others like playing low level challenge runs. Let them do that. Why is there a need to earn it? Let people play how they want to play.
Exactly. Flynn got what I was saying. Sorry for being confusing. I know a lot of games had the option, and it comes late in the game. I mentioned that I liked that it was earnable back then, because back then, I had spare time and didn't mind grinding for the sake of accomplishment. It did mean something. But I can't do that anymore. And now that there is a JRPG that lets you manually set what encounter rate you want right out of the gate, I had to wonder why that has never been done before. It's one step away from being a perfect idea. If there was a way to also counter-balance the XP and Gold you'd earn so changing the encounter rate didn't cripple you, and you could play the whole game with whatever rate you want, that would be fantastic
So you want what in non-RPGs would be a difficulty setting, perhaps?
I agree. Modern RPGs typically show the enemies on screen so that you can avoid the encounter relatively easily (Xenoblade, Last Story, Dragon Quest) so 'traditional' RPGs with truly random encounters should have some kind of comparable mechanism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
And also every Tales game since at least Symphonia, Star Ocean 3 and 4, FF13-2, Persona 3 and 4, and I'm probably still missing a fewQuote:
Originally Posted by Del MurderI agree. Modern RPGs typically show the enemies on screen so that you can avoid the encounter relatively easily (Xenoblade, Last Story, Dragon Quest)Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyblade
In Persona, skipping battles didn't hurt too much, because generally having a strategy was way better than having a level. But in every other game, if you get into the habit of skipping too many enemies you become grossly under-leveled. The games are designed to expect you to grind at least a little. Which is understandable, but not always acceptable. If a game has a great story, but the battle mechanics wear on you; it's a pity that the game risks not being enjoyed by half the people who fire it up because they can't take the constant fighting. I've had this happen to many games that people said were excellent and I wouldn't know because I couldn't stomach trudging through all the fighting. Even when you can see enemies on screen. Breaks of the game I guess, but it's just sad..
Just got Edea in my party and she has quickly become my favorite character. Mrgrgr!
Haha, I love her mrgrgr. She does that all the time. And it never occurred to me that someone might actually say something like that. Very good voice acting