Final Fantasy VIII Mysteries

In my opinion, they aren't so much 'illusions' as 'exaggerations'. My support for this is that similar attacks have shown to be different in the same way between battle and CG scenes--in the Garden battle, many students use magic. It looks completely different. A few limit breaks (Fire Cross: No Mercy, Renzokuken and Rough Divide, and Ice Strike) are shown to be less flashy in CG, too. So, that's what I think.

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Originally Posted by Ryushikaze

Well, Boco we know is real, and Chocobos have a similar effect in other FFs (notably FFT, in which is a physical, not faith attack, if I recall). Now, while I think that Doomtrain includes illusory elements, apparently he's been caught on film, so he at least exists.

Siren calls forth water and a small sea, but then again, Leviathan summons a mountain and a waterfall.

Phoenix is odd, because technically the pheonix could regenerate from ash in a fire, so it wouldn't be too odd for the bird to rise whole from nothing.

Now if any attack is largely an illusion, I would think it would be Eden's, given the extra-galactic nature of the attack and sub-c speeds.

Of course, it could be that they all involve pocket dimensions. I mean, we're already calling forth and arranging matter in most of them anyways.

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Siren and Levaithan I think are telepathic, but in the case of Leviathan, there is physical water involved, but just not to that extent.

Eden, being that it's a man-made experiement, is a temporal GF. A sort of quasi-energy entity, that is programmed to, as you know how my theory goes, send targets back to the 'Dawn of Time', "Genesis", "The In The Beginning", ergo Big Bang for lack of a better description as "Eden" or "Garden of Eden" is often referred to.

I understand the some if not all GFs reside in pocket dimensions, but some of them like Ifrit for example seem to reside physically on the same plane of existance as the "Junctioneers". Again, it's like you said in another thread, that the developers just got lazy, but I rather like trying to fill in the holes. It sort of inspires me of things that's missing.

I appreciate you discussing this. Anywhoo... Doomtrain... You're right, about being caught on film, but that's just fun because it's like catching a ghost on film. Probably should have made the mystery from the Magazine part of the 'hunt' for this GF.

Phoenix... You got a good interpretation of that summon. I just couldn't see it... It seemed to go either/or for me.


Now I'm not saying that the GFs that might be illusions, do not 'exist', but just that they attack the mind more directly or indirectly than the physical energy manifesting GFs.

Like Bahamat... That's a tough one for me. But we'll get to him later.

Boco, I had/have a problem with him being physical, because I wonder how he 'appears'. It's one thing to summon up Shiva, which is an energy being composed of ambient "H2O" molecules/energy... than Boco, a Chocobo which is a carbon based organism... Unless it's interdimensional like Gilgamesh/Odin/Pandemona and the like.