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He may be the most powerful in the FF7 series, but not in the entire series. I believe Kefka and Kuja are better. Kefka has eight dragons, a beam of light that can kill you from any point in the world, and when he's in the area of the Goddess statues, he can't be hurt. When Kuja achieved Trance, he destroyed an entire world, and he controls the Mist, and can conjure up strong Mist monsters.
Beat that, mama's boy!
He is far from a god. A god would be Kefka, or Kuja, who clearly have more power then Sephiroth.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Crystal
You said that holding Holly was an example of Sephiroth's power. But you have to remember that Sephiroth's power is his will. He was holding Holly with the power of his will, and he was controlling Jenova with the power of his will too. Controlling Jenova is an example of Sephiroth's power.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenbocoFirst off when in AC is he ever called a god? Secondly Controling Jenova wasn't much power, that just gave him someone to do his bidding when he was stuck in the northern crater.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Crystal
He is never called a god in AC, but if i remember well, he is called a god in the Reunion Files.
In FFVII, Sephiroth wanted to have controll over all the Lifestream, becoming a god. In AC he has his own version of Lifestream that he could completelly controll. And his tainted Lifestream was more powerfull than the pure Lifestream, because he could corrupt the pure one, transforming it in his own version of Lifestream.
The Reunion Files say too, that in AC, Sephiroth is in his most powerfull form ever, and that he is the most powerfull character of the FFVII series.
In AC, Sephiroth is a god.
How you know that they are more powerfull than Sephiroth? Sephiroth can destroy an entire world if he want(he was using the tainted Lifestream to do it, in the end of AC), and is important to note that Sephiroth could have killed Cloud any time. He wasn't using half of his true power in that fight. The problem is that, in AC, we never saw the true power of Sephiroth in a fight, because he was only playing with Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboco
And Sephiroth said(in FFVII) that when he could controll the Lifestream, he would be a god. And this is exactly what he was doing in AC. And when SE say that he is the most powerfull being in FFVII universe, that means that he is more powerfull than beings like Omega Weiss and Omega Weapon itself.
The Lifestream is the source of life and magic in FFVII. Sephiroth could corrupt it, and controll it. He could controll the source of life and magic in the planet. He is a god.
Just to you guys understand, i'm not saying that AC Sephiroth is more powerfull than Kuja and Kefka, i'm only saying that we never saw Sephiroth fight with all his power in AC, meaning that we don't know if he is more powerfull than Kuja or Kefka.
his name wins.
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Personally, I don't think he was that powerful if he didn't use that power. After all, with great power comes the ability to abuse that power, and Sephiroth did not. Which means he is a weaker villain than Kuja and Kefka.Quote:
Originally Posted by The CrystalHow you know that they are more powerfull than Sephiroth? Sephiroth can destroy an entire world if he want(he was using the tainted Lifestream to do it, in the end of AC), and is important to note that Sephiroth could have killed Cloud any time. He wasn't using half of his true power in that fight. The problem is that, in AC, we never saw the true power of Sephiroth in a fight, because he was only playing with Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldenboco
And Sephiroth said(in FFVII) that when he could controll the Lifestream, he would be a god. And this is exactly what he was doing in AC. And when SE say that he is the most powerfull being in FFVII universe, that means that he is more powerfull than beings like Omega Weiss and Omega Weapon itself.
The Lifestream is the source of life and magic in FFVII. Sephiroth could corrupt it, and controll it. He could controll the source of life and magic in the planet. He is a god.
Just to you guys understand, i'm not saying that AC Sephiroth is more powerfull than Kuja and Kefka, i'm only saying that we never saw Sephiroth fight with all his power in AC, meaning that we don't know if he is more powerfull than Kuja or Kefka.
He did not use his full power, because he knew that he could kill Cloud with his first attack. But he didn't want to do this. He wanted to humiliate Cloud, to make him suffer. This is why he decided to have a "simple" sword fight with Cloud.Quote:
Originally Posted by YTDN
You already played DoC? If you played, think about Omega Weiss. Think about Omega Weapon. Sephiroth is more powerfull than them.
Sephiroth was nothing more than a victim of his own self-conciousness, and tremendous ego. He practically thrived on his own visions of grandeur, and that is what finally destroyed him in the end when Cloud fought him in the Lifestream. Cloud didn't kill or vanquish him, his own ego did.
Kuja was nothing!
WHAT!!! ARE YOU EVEN THINKING?!? He blew up a freakin' world! Boom, gone! How can you call that nothing? What did Sephiroth do... summon a meteor and get it stopped?Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisfffan
Watch this and there will be no way you can call him nothing.
He have more development than Sephiroth, have a better personality than Sephiroth, have a better reason than Sephiroth, have better quotes than Sephiroth, is more intelligent than Sephiroth, and did more damage to his world than Sephiroth.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisfffan
Yeah, he is nothing. :rolleyes2
Burned Nibelheim, killed everyone in Shinra, killed the Midgar Zolom with great style, killed Aerith, hold Holly, "manipulated" Cloud and his friends to the Reunion, summoned Meteor, was the responsible for the release of the Weapons(even if this wasn't his original plan), made Cloud belive that he(Cloud) "didn't exist", created a very powerfull body(Safer Sephiroth) to absorb the Lifestream, was the responsible for the destruction of Midgar(his Meteor destroyed it), corrupted the world with Geostigma, and created his own Lifestream becoming a god.Quote:
What did Sephiroth do... summon a meteor and get it stopped?
Hell, both of them are great! I love both of them.
i think sepiroth is an okay villian, but like dragon mage said a man who sicks his mommy on you and has waist length hair can NOT be taken serouisly.
I can't believe people are voting for KUJA! He has no class whatsoever. He was basically just some random idiot and then some big bad guy, and he looked like a panzy the whole way through. We were able to watch Kefka rise to the top, instead of just being some powerful gunt mouth. Sephiroth started out good, which is a huge plus in my books. Sephiroth had so much story, so much background. Main bad guys need story, or they need to at least be underestimated.
Kefka was underestimated, and we actually got to know Sephiroth. Kuja? Who the heck is Kuja? He's some idiot that you all of the sudden find standing on a giant plant with you, taunting you. Maybe I was to concerned with cards
MOST IMPORTANTLY: For the people who are saying Sephiroth was a mommas boy so Kuja wins: I can feel comfortable saying papa didn't buy Kuja his evening dress
(SPOILER)Kuja was a genome created by Garland to destroy the souls on Gaia, so then Terra's souls could fill the void. Then Garland created Zidane, and Kuja got jealous, thinking he was gonna get replaced, so he threw Zidane down to Gaia. He then proceeded to wreak havoc on gaia, he destroyed Alexandria, Burmecia, Cleyra, Lindblum, and Madain Sari directly or indirectly. Then he went to get revenge on his creator for 'replacing' him, which was his goal all along, he was just looking for a strong power to destroy Garland. He found Trance, absorbed all the angry souls on the Invincible, then completely kicked Zidane's butt, and Tranced. He then killed Garland, but before he died, he told Kuja that he had a time limit on his life, and was gonna die soon, 'without ever leaving his mark on the world'. Kuja then snapped, because he believed himself to be better than everyone else, so he decided that if he, the best person in thw world, was gonna die, the rest of the world would die too. Cue large scale destruction. You calling Kuja 'just some random guy?'Quote:
Originally Posted by bleda
And if you just make fun of him for his clothes, well, he looks good in them. And you should wear what loks good on you.
sephiroth is a good villain the best in my opinion, but their all good( I've only played ff 7-9) each has its flaws kuja looks like a fag I mean look at him. ultimecia is a chick who only uses magic and no weapons. sephiroth is a big mama's boy in so many ways I cant repeat them all this century. they should make a game containg all three now that would be a chalenging game.
KUJA is a girl how can he be the best bad guy? he’s a cross dresser