I don't think its the role, I think it has more to do with the way the role was presented.
I don't think its the role, I think it has more to do with the way the role was presented.
So being truthful about it is working against me. I should have probably made up a few "protections" and presented it a little better.
I think there's something wrong with his investigation. I'm innocent yet he claims guilty. I would have thought him as Paranoid. But he claims he investigated Cao. So I don't know what to make of it. A framer? Possible, but highly unlikely. I'm thinking about the stuff Zhuge said, and If they have something to do with our situation.
Though with the way things are going i guess i should just give up. No one is believing me anyway.
Giving up isn't helping your case, either. You haven't been voted against yet, besides one person so you must be doing something right. With both of you roleclaiming it's really a 50/50 on who's telling the truth. The way you two were talking it would seem the one of you is Mafia, but it's hard to tell which one. Though there is a small small chance that both of you are the same side....
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You actually have posted quite a bit. It just wasn't during times I was around, I guess. Or maybe your posts didn't have much merit behind them that they seemed forgettable. :monster: Or maybe I got confused by all these stupid names again. My main point is that you seemed to have showed up in full force as soon as Guan outed you when before you have been pretty forgettable in the discussions.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
You are speculating that there is a doctor and that they will do your job for you. You had an obvious town (Cao Cao) that you could have protected. Lu Meng the double voter has also been basically outed and worthy of your sacrifice. I can't say that not doing your job is necessarily scummy, but it's terrible playing.Quote:
I did not use my role because it's a very risky one. It means certain death to me, and I don't really want to die. I want to keep on playing. Besides, I'm sure there's a doctor alive, since my role is flawed.
My point is, Guan has called you out. Based on his investigations and results, at least one of you has to be lying scum, but that doesn't seem to bother you too much. You are way more focused on defending yourself than getting to the bottom of this "false" roleclaim. It screams scumtell.Quote:
And I believe I can vote whenever I want to right? What does that prove anyway?
I think it's you who are grasping at everything and blaming it on me.
In the end, that's really what it comes down to. I believe his claim because I don't think the mafia would try the cop angle twice in a row. It's pretty risky. xD He also explained himself and his actions very well. Since no other cop has come forward, and no one except you has refuted his claim, this is what I'm going with.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
Actually Can I get a vote count and time left?
I did question him. I asked him who his third investigation was, and other things like why he didn't go after you in Day 3. We'll have to wait until he comes around to answer. Until then, any information you can give us that may refute his claim would be helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Xiahou Dun
It could be that i didn't post much because i'm forgettable and no one paid attention. However now that you're focusing all your attention on me i have to fight back right?Quote:
You actually have posted quite a bit. It just wasn't during times I was around, I guess. Or maybe your posts didn't have much merit behind them that they seemed forgettable. Or maybe I got confused by all these stupid names again. My main point is that you seemed to have showed up in full force as soon as Guan outed you when before you have been pretty forgettable in the discussions.
I'm playing this game so that i can enjoy myself. If i had protected Cao (who i suspected would be a certain mafia target) i would have died and missed the entire game. I don't really care about winning.Quote:
You are speculating that there is a doctor and that they will do your job for you. You had an obvious town (Cao Cao) that you could have protected. Lu Meng the double voter has also been basically outed and worthy of your sacrifice. I can't say that not doing your job is necessarily scummy, but it's terrible playing.
At least that's how i saw things. Cao has survived till now.
That's all i can do. I gave possible explanations to his claims. I don't know what else to think. I know he's wrong but i cannot prove it.Quote:
My point is, Guan has called you out. Based on his investigations and results, at least one of you has to be lying scum, but that doesn't seem to bother you too much. You are way more focused on defending yourself than getting to the bottom of this "false" roleclaim. It screams scumtell.
Then i have nothing else to say.Quote:
In the end, that's really what it comes down to. I believe his claim because I don't think the mafia would try the cop angle twice in a row. It's pretty risky. xD He also explained himself and his actions very well. Since no other cop has come forward, and no one except you has refuted his claim, this is what I'm going with.
Another thing we didn't consider is a lyncher/lynchee situation. I only mention this because the last time I saw it it kind of went the same way as this. The lyncher laid low for a while but acted crazy enough to not get night killed, then claimed cop and that the lynchee was scum. Last time the lynchee was a vanilla town, but the mods could have given him bodyguard to improve the chances of him dying at night (since Lyncher is a pretty easy role to win with as it is).
Of course, if this is true then I don't know what we could do about it. It's also a long shot. I'm still buying the cop roleclaim as true.
Silly Del.
After reading the arguments going on between Guan and Xiahou, I have decided that Guan is very likely telling the truth. I cannot see the truths within Xiahou's claims, albeit being well thought out, but why would he look out for himself rather than help town in any way, even if it meant dying? Diao sacrificed herself so we can take out Zhao Yun if he was really a Jester. Glad that it didn't turn out that way, so I'm going to cast my vote on Xiahou Dun.
##Vote: Xiahou Dun
That might sound outrageous to the others but it makes perfect sense with me. I know that Guan's claim for me is false for sure. What other reason would he have to declare me guilty other than that?
But still i doubt that's the case. It's like the whole jester affair.
Well I'm back from my comfy bed read up on all the recent posts. I pretty much completely believe Guan Yu's role claim now... but Dun's backup argument does not seem to be nearly as well fortified.
The way you play your "8th guard" is pretty interesting, wasting a stoplynch, and letting very useful townies die. Now I understand that you want to continue to experience the game, but a decent strategy can make the game a much better experience.
##vote: [M] Xiahou Dun
There's no reason behind it at all. Other than me wanting to play for more. I'm not Diao-chan.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
It may sound selfish but that's all there is to it. I've always died early when I was town anyway.
Also before you start judging my role how about making a role claim for yourself.
I smell this is all something to make the blame fall on me. All your complaints on my role when YOU'RE LYNCHING A TOWN FOR GOD'S SAKE! So what if i haven't used my role? I'm still town. You should seek MAFIA out. Nobody is focusing on that fact. You just take Guan's claim as truth and go on with weak arguments. Meh whatever. I'm glad i didn't protect anyone.
I'm glad I'm not the only one making this argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by [M] Ma Chao
This one as well. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by [M] Meng Huo