the orphanage

wasnt this bit great! i loved the flash backs they were so fun. may i also say how funny seifer looked as a kid?! it was sooo interesting to find out they all knew each other years ago. its moments like this that make ff8 so magical, it will always be my favourite ff. dont you think they shouldve put more flash backs in?

The whole flashback-heavy scene on the basketball court seems to be a favorite for many or ruin the entire game for many. I guess it either emotionally connects you to the events or is too coincidental to bear.

For me, it's my favorite in the whole game. I loved it :smash:

Right on. It's definitely one of the more emotional scenes in the game, at least for me. I'm especially drawn to the fact that Seifer was a part of the orphanage gang, too. I really wished he had gotten more screen time as a kid, maybe a scene to show a different side of him rather than the same old bully poking fun at and harassing others. :rolleyes2

I think that FF5 and 6 have the most flashbacks ever

World is a small place.

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Right on. It's definitely one of the more emotional scenes in the game, at least for me. I'm especially drawn to the fact that Seifer was a part of the orphanage gang, too. I really wished he had gotten more screen time as a kid, maybe a scene to show a different side of him rather than the same old bully poking fun at and harassing others. :rolleyes2

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yeah but it was funny seeing him still insulting zell even when he was a junior.

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wasnt this bit great! i loved the flash backs they were so fun. may i also say how funny seifer looked as a kid?! it was sooo interesting to find out they all knew each other years ago. its moments like this that make ff8 so magical, it will always be my favourite ff. dont you think they shouldve put more flash backs in?

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Finaly someone else who like this scene, everybody else here seamed to think it was the worst.

For the record I liked this scene too.

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The whole flashback-heavy scene on the basketball court seems to be a favorite for many or ruin the entire game for many. I guess it either emotionally connects you to the events or is too coincidental to bear.

For me, it's my favorite in the whole game. I loved it :smash:

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This one scene is probably the most cited reason as to why FFVIII is the worst game in the series.

While I'm not sure it's as bad as all that (if anything, gameplay is FFVIII's main failing) it's definitely not an example of great story telling.

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This one scene is probably the most cited reason as to why FFVIII is the worst game in the series.

While I'm not sure it's as bad as all that (if anything, gameplay is FFVIII's main failing) it's definitely not an example of great story telling.

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Why am I always the minority?

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wasnt this bit great! i loved the flash backs they were so fun. may i also say how funny seifer looked as a kid?! it was sooo interesting to find out they all knew each other years ago. its moments like this that make ff8 so magical, it will always be my favourite ff. dont you think they shouldve put more flash backs in?

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Finaly someone else who like this scene, everybody else here seamed to think it was the worst.

For the record I liked this scene too.

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This one scene is probably the most cited reason as to why FFVIII is the worst game in the series.

While I'm not sure it's as bad as all that (if anything, gameplay is FFVIII's main failing) it's definitely not an example of great story telling.

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whaaat! how can you possibly think this? it is a good example of story telling. its a good fantasy twist. and look at how mAgical the whole scene is with the snow etc. and after the orphanage...comes battle of the gardens....DEFINITELY the best final fantasy!!!!!

There are two major problems that I have with the scene. From what I’ve seen, these points tend to be along similar lines to how most others who dislike the scene feel about it:

1. It’s incredibly cliché. I understand what the writers were trying to do here (since character connections and the past are of great importance to the plot of FFVIII) but there really is no excuse for choosing such a prevalent literary staple to achieve their ends. It wouldn’t be the first time the series pulled something like this though (I’m looking at you FFIV) and this problem is no where near as detrimental as the next one.

2. There is no foreshadowing. At all. Up until the plot twist, there is absolutely nothing within the game to indicate any relationship between the protagonists. The whole thing comes out of right field and ends up seeming rather disjointed from everything that came before it. What’s worse is that in order to explain the obviously ridiculous nature of the situation, the writers introduce yet another deus ex machine plot twist (“The GFs made us forget”) which does its bit to try and salvage things (while leaving behind a head-ache’s worth of questions) then completely disappears from the game, never to be referenced by anyone ever again.

There really isn’t anything good about the whole thing. Conceptually, it was already pretty weak and it is made infinitely worse by being lazily integrated into the plot. The fact that it was snowing or whatever doesn’t really do much to help.

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There are two major problems that I have with the scene. From what I’ve seen, these points tend to be along similar lines to how most others who dislike the scene feel about it:

1. It’s incredibly cliché. I understand what the writers were trying to do here (since character connections and the past are of great importance to the plot of FFVIII) but there really is no excuse for choosing such a prevalent literary staple to achieve their ends. It wouldn’t be the first time the series pulled something like this though (I’m looking at you FFIV) and this problem is no where near as detrimental as the next one.

2. There is no foreshadowing. At all. Up until the plot twist, there is absolutely nothing within the game to indicate any relationship between the protagonists. The whole thing comes out of right field and ends up seeming rather disjointed from everything that came before it. What’s worse is that in order to explain the obviously ridiculous nature of the situation, the writers introduce yet another deus ex machine plot twist (“The GFs made us forget”) which does its bit to try and salvage things (while leaving behind a head-ache’s worth of questions) then completely disappears from the game, never to be referenced by anyone ever again.

There really isn’t anything good about the whole thing. Conceptually, it was already pretty weak and it is made infinitely worse by being lazily integrated into the plot. The fact that it was snowing or whatever doesn’t really do much to help.

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i still disagree....and always willllll.;)

Well to me, as much as i enjoyed it, it just seemed to coincidental, and even though it came completly unexpected, it's not like it changed anything afterwards, except thier connection with Edea, but even if only one or two of them came from the orphanage it would have made the same effect, and be abit less farfetched