5,000 year old valentines

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02-07-2007, 09:49 PM
Renmiri

5,000 year old valentines

:love: So romantic!!!!! :love:

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Originally Posted by Reuters

Archaeologists in Italy have discovered a couple buried 5,000 to 6,000 years ago, hugging each other.

"It's an extraordinary case," said Elena Menotti, who led the team on their dig near the northern city of Mantova.

"There has not been a double burial found in the Neolithic period, much less two people hugging -- and they really are hugging."

Menotti said she believed the two, almost certainly a man and a woman although that needs to be confirmed, died young because their teeth were mostly intact and not worn down.

"I must say that when we discovered it, we all became very excited. I've been doing this job for 25 years. I've done digs at Pompeii, all the famous sites," she told Reuters.

"But I've never been so moved because this is the discovery of something special."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070206/...y_embrace_dc_1
02-07-2007, 09:55 PM
NeoCracker

That is smurfing creepy.
02-07-2007, 09:59 PM
Renmiri

Well, that too....
02-07-2007, 10:15 PM
Psychotic

The Daily Mail (hi-five me, Manus) says that she was probably sacrificed after he died, in order to keep his soul company. Not so romantic now, is it? :p
02-07-2007, 10:23 PM
leader of mortals

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

The Daily Mail (hi-five me, Manus) says that she was probably sacrificed after he died, in order to keep his soul company. Not so romantic now, is it? :p

*twitch*........ OMFG THAT IS CREEPY
02-07-2007, 10:40 PM
Peegee

Thanks to the new information this thread now delivers...

pizza, that is.
02-07-2007, 10:42 PM
Old Manus

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Originally Posted by leader of mortals

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

The Daily Mail (hi-five me, Manus) says that she was probably sacrificed after he died, in order to keep his soul company. Not so romantic now, is it? :p

*twitch*........ OMFG THAT IS CREEPY

This is the Daily Mail we're talking about here. They probably made out it was linked to Diana's death or something.
02-07-2007, 10:45 PM
Psychotic

To all the ladies at EoFF: TYK!

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Originally Posted by Old Manus

This is the Daily Mail we're talking about here. They probably made out it was linked to Diana's death or something.

You're getting it confused with the Daily Express. The Daily Mail would link it to paedophile asylum seekers.

Speaking of, today's edition also had an interesting article on the secret online language of paedophiles, informing parents of what such wonderful phrases as LOL, ASL, BRB and TYK (take your knickers off) mean.
02-07-2007, 10:48 PM
Old Manus

tyk pls

Psychotic quick off the mark as per usual.
02-07-2007, 10:48 PM
NeoCracker

Hey Psi, would you TYK?
02-07-2007, 10:50 PM
Anaisa

Why is two corpses cuddling romantic? Or exciting for that matter. If it was two dinosaurs, I'd be impressed.
02-07-2007, 10:50 PM
Rocket Edge

Wow...

EDIT - Read Psy's post. :(

I feel it's heart warming all the same.
02-07-2007, 11:37 PM
Renmiri

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

Why is two corpses cuddling romantic? Or exciting for that matter. If it was two dinosaurs, I'd be impressed.

I felt that we could virtually see the love they felt for each other, an incredibly long time ago. I wish my love lasts that much! :love:
02-07-2007, 11:41 PM
escobert

I HOPE WHEN I DIE I AM HUGGING MY KITTY :D
02-07-2007, 11:58 PM
Anaisa

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Originally Posted by Renmiri

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

Why is two corpses cuddling romantic? Or exciting for that matter. If it was two dinosaurs, I'd be impressed.

I felt that we could virtually see the love they felt for each other, an incredibly long time ago. I wish my love lasts that much! :love:

There is no way of knowing they loved each other though.
02-08-2007, 12:06 AM
Bunny

Negative Nancy says it could've been a dozen other things that lead them to die like that. Just as there are a dozen of ways for people to "embrace" each other in such a way. You cannot feel love from pictures. What you are feeling is your imagination making illogical somethings out of nothing.
02-08-2007, 12:14 AM
Renmiri

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Originally Posted by Bunny

You cannot feel love from pictures. What you are feeling is your imagination making illogical somethings out of nothing.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. So what ?

The picture inspired a warm and fuzzy feeling on me. It might not be what happened but it is highly likely that it was a loving embrace.

Hey, some people think a seal looking bored is cute, I happen to think seeing likely evidence of loving bonds from 5,000 year old humans is uplifting.
02-08-2007, 12:35 AM
Anaisa

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Originally Posted by Renmiri

Hey, some people think a seal looking bored is cute, I happen to think seeing likely evidence of loving bonds from 5,000 year old humans is uplifting.

Seals are cute full stop. An my Seals are certainly cuter than a couple of corpses.
02-08-2007, 12:39 AM
Madame Adequate

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

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Originally Posted by Renmiri

Hey, some people think a seal looking bored is cute, I happen to think seeing likely evidence of loving bonds from 5,000 year old humans is uplifting.

Seals are cute full stop. An my Seals are certainly cuter than a couple of corpses.

If one presumes that it is a symbol of love, the idea that it could survive five thousand years and be unconvered by what is effectively a completely alien people, yet still resonate, is pretty damned powerful if you ask me.

It does rest on an essentially unprovable assumption, I concede, but I can't say I entirely blame people for making it. The world is dark and empty enough to justify the occasion piece of irrational hope.
02-08-2007, 12:50 AM
Roto13

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

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Originally Posted by Renmiri

Hey, some people think a seal looking bored is cute, I happen to think seeing likely evidence of loving bonds from 5,000 year old humans is uplifting.

Seals are cute full stop.

Unless they're adults.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26.../seal-ugly.jpg
02-08-2007, 12:55 AM
Madame Adequate

... You know that pwnage just made me gay for you, right?
02-08-2007, 01:01 AM
Psychotic

That's worse than goatse, Roto.
02-08-2007, 01:04 AM
Miriel

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Originally Posted by Bunny

You cannot feel love from pictures.

Not true not true not true!
02-08-2007, 01:04 AM
Anaisa

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Originally Posted by Roto13

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

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Originally Posted by Renmiri

Hey, some people think a seal looking bored is cute, I happen to think seeing likely evidence of loving bonds from 5,000 year old humans is uplifting.

Seals are cute full stop.

Unless they're adults.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26.../seal-ugly.jpg

Because of course all adult Seals look like that.
02-08-2007, 01:07 AM
Madame Adequate

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

Because of course all adult Seals look like that.

So what you're saying is that seals are NOT cute, full stop?
02-08-2007, 01:08 AM
Rye

Omg, this just made me squeee. So sweet. Makes me wanna cry. :]
02-08-2007, 01:21 AM
Bunny

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Originally Posted by Miriel

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Originally Posted by Bunny

You cannot feel love from pictures.

Not true not true not true!

Well, okay. I know that what I said wasn't entirely true. It was moreso on the subject of assuming that the picture was of two people dying in each other's arms and then being discovered 5,000 years later.

Also mixed with my belief that there is no afterlife and thus, after the people are dead their emotions are as well. The love did not survive 5,000 years, the bones did.
02-08-2007, 01:24 AM
Madame Adequate

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Originally Posted by Bunny

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Originally Posted by Miriel

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Originally Posted by Bunny

You cannot feel love from pictures.

Not true not true not true!

Well, okay. I know that what I said wasn't entirely true. It was moreso on the subject of assuming that the picture was of two people dying in each other's arms and then being discovered 5,000 years later.

Also mixed with my belief that there is no afterlife and thus, after the people are dead their emotions are as well. The love did not survive 5,000 years, the bones did.

Everything leaves its mark on everything else. What they did does still have ramifications today, I guarantee it. Every time I hit a key it matters to the universe and will always have changed something.

Edit: I'm not saying these things are necessarily perceptible, just that they exist.
02-08-2007, 01:27 AM
Bunny

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Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF

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Originally Posted by Bunny

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Originally Posted by Miriel

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Originally Posted by Bunny

You cannot feel love from pictures.

Not true not true not true!

Well, okay. I know that what I said wasn't entirely true. It was moreso on the subject of assuming that the picture was of two people dying in each other's arms and then being discovered 5,000 years later.

Also mixed with my belief that there is no afterlife and thus, after the people are dead their emotions are as well. The love did not survive 5,000 years, the bones did.

Everything leaves its mark on everything else. What they did does still have ramifications today, I guarantee it. Every time I hit a key it matters to the universe and will always have changed something.

Edit: I'm not saying these things are necessarily perceptible, just that they exist.

So what did these two people change?

That edit wasn't there when I quoted. Man dammit that ruins my post.
02-08-2007, 01:33 AM
Anaisa

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Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

Because of course all adult Seals look like that.

So what you're saying is that seals are NOT cute, full stop?

No. What I'm saying is not all adult seals look like the seal Roto posted, since his accompanying comment was that they weren't cute if they were adults. An I didn't say all seals looked cute. An I don't actually think that Seal is ugly anyway. It's not exactly pulling a pretty face in that second shot, but who would look attractive pulling a face like that? You may pull a face similar to that when you're being gay with Roto, so keep a camera handy so we can see how pretty it makes you look. It won't be pretty, but if you die like that, in 5,000 to 6,000 years when you're found, some people will think it's romantic. :-*
02-08-2007, 01:45 AM
Madame Adequate

Honey, you wouldn't be able to afford those pictures.
02-08-2007, 01:47 AM
Anaisa

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Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF

Honey, you wouldn't be able to afford those pictures.

Poverty does have its benefits then.
02-08-2007, 01:52 AM
Madame Adequate

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

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Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF

Honey, you wouldn't be able to afford those pictures.

Poverty does have its benefits then.

Touché.
02-08-2007, 01:53 AM
Rye

I enjoy my Wessica Discount on 5,000 year old Rhody x Huxley porn. ;D

But on topic, I really like how the two were found in Verona, Italy. So Romeo and Juliet, ja?
02-08-2007, 01:56 AM
kikimm

Yeah I don't want to hear anymore else about seals or anything. So some people think it's romantic. Whatever. Not everything has to turn into an argument!

I'm not...completely sure how I feel about this. I guess it's kinda cute. I think I find it more sad than romantic.
02-08-2007, 01:58 AM
Martyr

I don't really know how to respond to this, but I'm thinking that it's a good start for dreaming up some crazy story.
02-08-2007, 02:01 AM
fire_of_avalon

People interpret sensory input differently. When Renmiri sees this picture, she thinks of love. When you see it, Anaisa, you think of bones. Both are perceptions of the same thing. The fact that the skeletons are embracing leads one to believe the pair died in an embrace. No one will ever know why they were embracing. It isn't so far fetched to believe it was a loving embrace. Just because you're not impressed by it means about as much to me as the fact that Renmiri (and others) are impressed by it means to you. If you perceive the photo differently, you're more than welcome to say so. Suggesting that other people are wrong in their perceptions given the fact that there is no evidence counter to those perceptions is something you're not welcome too.

Also, Anaisa and MILFY, stay on topic. I don't care about who goes gay and who buys what pictures of who being gay. Transactions such as those (as long as they are between two consenting adults) can be made via PM. :)
02-08-2007, 02:02 AM
Shlup

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

The Daily Mail (hi-five me, Manus) says that she was probably sacrificed after he died, in order to keep his soul company. Not so romantic now, is it? :p

I'd be down with that.
02-08-2007, 02:03 AM
Mikztsu

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Originally Posted by kikimm

I'm not...completely sure how I feel about this. I guess it's kinda cute. I think I find it more sad than romantic.

My thoughts exactly.
02-08-2007, 05:38 AM
~*~Celes~*~

I happen to think it's romantic, myself. Sure, they're dead and all, but to just think about the fact that they were buried together in an embrace, and that there's more than likely a tragic story behind it, gets us romantics in a stir and we come up with several scenarios. Maybe it was a Romeo+Juliet kind of thing? Maybe he was in a war and she found him nearly dead, deciding she wanted to die with him? We'll never know for sure, but it's great to dream :)
02-08-2007, 05:43 AM
Moon Rabbits

Read about this in my local newspaper, it made me<3
02-08-2007, 05:52 AM
Zeromus_X

That's adorable. :) :cat:
02-08-2007, 05:50 PM
Renmiri

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Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~

I happen to think it's romantic, myself. Sure, they're dead and all, but to just think about the fact that they were buried together in an embrace, and that there's more than likely a tragic story behind it, gets us romantics in a stir and we come up with several scenarios. Maybe it was a Romeo+Juliet kind of thing? Maybe he was in a war and she found him nearly dead, deciding she wanted to die with him? We'll never know for sure, but it's great to dream :)

Exactly! I love writing - just fan fiction so far - and the romantic possibilities are huge. Romeo and Juliet for sure, but so many more romatic stories could have happened! :love:

But yeh, a bit bittersweet because they are dead. Yet dying in the arms of the one you love can't be all that bad, since we all have to go someday. :greenie:

I'd like to be cuddled with my beloved when I die. And 5,000 years later, when they find our bones and think seals or dinossaurs are cutter, I'll be happy in heaven (or in oblivion) so I won't mind at all :love:
02-08-2007, 06:25 PM
Nominus Experse

Touching in a way, though its true story could have been anything. But I will think that they were lovers buried together, simply because doing so is the most profound and romantic.
02-09-2007, 01:37 AM
CimminyCricket

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Originally Posted by Roto13

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Originally Posted by Anaisa

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Originally Posted by Renmiri

Hey, some people think a seal looking bored is cute, I happen to think seeing likely evidence of loving bonds from 5,000 year old humans is uplifting.

Seals are cute full stop.

Unless they're adults.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a26.../seal-ugly.jpg

lmto, Roto, you are coolest person I've ever met, well, sorta met really. I think you know what I mean :c)
02-09-2007, 01:40 AM
Agrias

Now matter what horribly gushy story you throw at me, i'll still hate valentines day...FOREVER!
02-09-2007, 02:19 AM
Shiny

Aw, they were in love... :barf:

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