I'm trying to break out of my tiny music niche. I figured I'd start with rap, since it's anti me anyway. Post good rap songs that aren't about bitches, hoes, drugs, and being gangsta.
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I'm trying to break out of my tiny music niche. I figured I'd start with rap, since it's anti me anyway. Post good rap songs that aren't about bitches, hoes, drugs, and being gangsta.
Air Force Ones by Nelly. They are about shoes.
Oh man, seriously you need some good rap, because your life will be ruined otherwise.
Listen to any of these guys (and don't worry, they're all the stuff that you want in a rapper, none of that ho's and pimp's crap)
-Cannibal Ox
-Aesop Rock
-Sage Francis
-Classified
-(maybe) Gangstarr
-Nas
All great stuff
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Originally Posted by Cruise Control
lets see...
Great rappers..
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Texas hiphop is out...
Ok listen to the following artist:
Tonedeff
Substantial
Mr.Mecca
PacFM
Jin
Rip Slyme
Back Drop Bomb
Jay Z(I suggest during the early 90s when he use to rap with Jaz)
Rakim
Eric B
Ice Cube
Tupac
Any rap from the 80s to early 90s will work
Also underground rappers like the first 5 I listed.
Check out an album called Jedi Mind Tricks.
I know you didn't put Jin up, Jin is terrible What you need is Nas, Kanye West, Foxy Brown Lil Kim, Tupac, Mos Def, and Biggie.
Kanye West is ok, but I've seen Jin battle Tonedeff they both can flow, and on two different levelsQuote:
Originally Posted by Ashley Schovitz
Nas sucks
Lil Kim is a wanna be
Tupac is kewl
Mos Def is talented
Biggie..... not sure if I should call him a rapper.....
Foxy Brown sucks...
btw I'm talking about the Jin out of New York
smurf that :skull::skull::skull::skull: nas does not suck. nas is the illest MC ever. No question in my mind. He can lyrically kill anyone.
Yea when I listen to a CD that promotes "Hiphop is Dead Dec. 19th 2006"Quote:
Originally Posted by TrowaBartonIV ^_^
That rapper sold out to commercialism.
Plus Nas can't flow like Tonedeff.
Get Black Star - "Black Star" immediately. Mos Def and Talib Kweli are some of the best underground MC's there are. Put them together and it's just pure magic.
Track suggestions - "Definition", "Respiration"
Then grab Danger Doom - "The Mouse and the Mask" to get silly with the amazing DJ Danger Mouse (of Gnarls Barkley, Gorillaz, and The Grey Album fame) and the supervillain himself MF DOOM.
Track suggestions - "Old School", "The Mask", "Sofa King"
To end it, Grab Roots Manuva - "Brand New Secondhand" for some of the smoothest raps you'll ever hear. The fact he has a slight UK/Jamaican accent gives it some extra flavor.
Track suggestions - "Clockwork", "Motion 5000"
If you could be specific about what kind of production, tempo, or style of hip-hop you want I could give tons more suggestions.
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
EDIT: Eminem doesn't rap about hoes and being gangsta, but he does rap about his problems with drugs
I hate most rap, though some good songs are
Sir-mix-alot - Baby Got Back
Biggie Smalls - Hypnotize
Eminem - Mosh, When I'm Gone, Mocking Bird, Toy Soldiers
Master P. - I really miss my Homie
THough given your description forget about the first two, Even though Baby Got Back is a classic.
Ooh - De La Soul
I had no idea there was more than one kind.Quote:
If you could be specific about what kind of production, tempo, or style of hip-hop you want I could give tons more suggestions.
Most people don't, which is why they look so retarded when they make sweeping generalizations about the genre. :monster: (then again, people who make sweeping generalizations about anything look retarded, so meh)
anyway, Dälek is the shiet. Most unique Hip Hop I've ever heard.
Sweeping generalization there, Mr. DK. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DK
Sage Francis. His political views are lol, but he does know how to convey them.
Blackalicious - Make you feel that way
2Pac - Do For Love
Jurassic 5 - Great Expectations
I highly recommend.
Probably should have finished what I was tryubg to say but I was in a rush to get the train, but balls. :mad2:Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILFSweeping generalization there, Mr. DK. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by DK
(I missed the effing train as well. :()
Assuming you don't want the stereotypical stuff, you can always go for the following.
Anything by Will Smith (often as The Fresh Prince) & DJ Jazzy Jeff. Common examples include Summertime, The Fresh Prince of Bel Air and Boom! Shake The Room.
A lot of stuff by Eminem don't include stuff about those things you mention, and it's actually quite good.
White & Nerdy by Weird Al.
A few songs by 2Pac are okay, along with those songs Coolio did back then.
5ive do a bit of rap!
Run DMC's stuff is also quite good.
One thing that bugs me is the whole hip hop vs. rap thing. To me if you're rapping, you're rapping, and if you're not, you're not.
That's like saying Britney Spears and Pavarotti are both just singing when what they actually do is very different. :monster:
Summertime is the ultimate chillout song.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
I can't help but agree, Jin is laughable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashley Schovitz
A'yo, you have came to the right man if your lookin' for some good rap that not about what your implying. But just for the record, if you can't except Hip Hop or Rap music for what it is today, which includes sex volence, alcohol, drugs, money, cars and any other self incriminating thing I can think of, then you have no business listening to it. Don't insult me. Check my list out...
Eminem- Sing For The Moment, Toy Soldiers, What Ever You Say I Am, Just Lose It, With Out Me, Hollywood, Until The Lights Go Out, Mosh, White America
Bone Thugs -N- Harmony- First Of The Month, Breakdown, Days Of Our Lives, Crossroads, Change The World, If I Fall, Home
Naz- Poizon, One Mic, Your The Man, My Country
DMX- The Omen, Slippin' Fallin', I'm Ready To Met Him
2Pac- It At Easy, Lord Knows, Young N****s, Dear Momma, I Ain't Mad At You, Life Goes On, So Many Tears
I'll think of more later...
Nas - Take it in Blood, Carry on Tradition, Not Going Back, Can't forget about you, It ain't hard to tell, Small World, Nas is Like, Undying Love, Street Dreams, I gave you power, Big Things... I could go on forever. Nas is just awesome.
Also check out AZ and also Nature, both good friends of Nas and share a common style and views and Nas.
There is some good suggestions on here already, but you'll probably want to check out Lupe Fiasco in addition. He's a total dork. Really good.
Go for some stuff from JAson Mraz. He doesn't really rap often though you have songs like "The Remedy" and "Geek in the Pink" where he raps.
Here's some more...
2Pac- Old School,
Lil Wayne (I don't like him but he has a few good ones)- F*** The World, Husla Music.
50 Cent- Hate It Or Love It, 21 Questions
Jay-Z (I don't like him ether) Hard Knock Life
Hmm...I'll come up with more later if your still interested...
Yes, lupe is awesome :bigsmile: kick push kick push coast!Quote:
Originally Posted by Necronopticous
Also stay the hell away from 50 cent.
also Lil Wayne has a ghost writter so he automatically sux0rs.
A'yo, 50 Cent was good back when he first sign with Shady Records. You can ask anybody! He my suck now but he was the s*** back then!
9Or how about when he was rapping with the Bravehearts and Illwill records? :p I still don't like him.
It'll be wise not to completely ignore alot of the mainstream artists, like Jay Z, Big L and 50 Cent because most of them were actually very good back in their hay day. Jay Z in particular, early to mid 90's he was better than any artist you get nowadays.
Public Enemy.:cool:
The only rapper I can tolerate (I hate rap.) is probably Lupe Fiasco. Anyone else...no.
<3 Dangerdoom. Good track choices, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Bandito
Also, nerdcore is totally rockin. I'm a huge pusher of the genre because it's so awesome and wonderful. Check out MC Frontalot (who has a ton of songs available on his site) and mc chris (he has a full album on his site) for some goodness.
I also really like Lady Sovereign. She is adorable. There, I said it.
you should check out magnetic north. they're just starting out and got some good songs already like drift away.
[QUOTE=Hsu;2126246]I've always thought Dizzee Rascal was the far superior Grime artist. I hope he breaks into the US soon. Someone with his frantic style and crazy production is just the kind of thing mainstream US rap needs nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Bandito
Yes! Chuck D is one of the most underrated MCs. When DMC (of Run DMC) says you're the best rapper he's ever heard you know you're the :skull::skull::skull::skull:. Also, if you completely ignore his media whoring the last couple years, Flavor Flav was the best hype man ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom
- Sage Francis (Genius, lyrical and lingual master, Personal Journals and A Healthy Distrust are amazing as well)
- Rakim (18th Letter and any older material)
- Cage (Horrorcore/acid rap genius, check out Hellz Winter, Waterworld and Movies for the Blind)
- Big Punisher (RIP)
- Canibus (Diverse as hell, he's mastered multiple styles, I suggest Rip the Jacker, Micclub and 2000 BC)
- Eminem (his older material, look for his Infinite and Slim Shady LP)
- AZ (AWOL is his best album hands down)
- Nas
- Jay-Z
- Freeway
- Dead Prez (Let's Get Free is an amazing album)
Just a few I listen to, I listen to both mainstream and underground and love both.
MF Doom sucks major ass by the way.
Can you elaborate why?Quote:
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Listen to his music and you'll find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by El BanditoCan you elaborate why?Quote:
Originally Posted by - - - TAURUS - - -
Yeah AWOL is a awesome CD. Have you heard The Format? It's not as good as AWOL but has a few good tracks.
Nah, I'll check it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrowaBartonIV ^_^
I love MF Doom. I also love a lot of the artists you recommended so I'm just wondering what is it about Doom that makes you dislike him. I'm not trying to start a argument or anything, I'm just usually curious to people's reasoning behind loathing things I adore.Quote:
Originally Posted by - - - TAURUS - - -
I just think he sounds like an idiot. He lacks lyrical content, can't flow for :skull::skull::skull::skull:, isn't all that creative and looks like a faggot with that stupid mask on. I tried to give him a chance multiple times but it didn't work out. He's the worst rapper in existence in my opinion, well one of the worst. Only thing he has going for him is originality, it doesn't make up for every other aspect in rap though.Quote:
Originally Posted by El BanditoI love MF Doom. I also love a lot of the artists you recommended so I'm just wondering what is it about Doom that makes you dislike him. I'm not trying to start a argument or anything, I'm just usually curious to people's reasoning behind loathing things I adore.Quote:
Originally Posted by - - - TAURUS - - -
Anything my M.I.A. is brilliant. Lady Sovereign is quite nice as well.
M.I.A. is great.
MF Doom is great.
You probably also want to check out Handsome Boy Modeling School, the stuff they put together is genius, and probably an especially good beginning venture into hip-hop and rap. I recommend their 2004 record "White People."
Sugar Hill Gang anyone?
Yeah Sugar Hill Gang is classic, listen to their 'Rapper's Delight', thats true oldie Hip Hop.
Try listening to Ugly Duckling too (their last two albums). Their not quite as complex as other artists mentioned in this thread but their a good laugh and have a light tone.
Blackalicious is pure skill, he's not controversial, philosophical or exceptionally funny, but listen to Chemical Calisthenics, A To G, and Alphabet Aerobics for speed. :)
Jurassic 5
CunninLynguists
Herbalizer (Goldrush, The Real Killer)
Fugees (classic ;))
SOME Mos Def (Speed Law is a good song)
Nas (One Mic, dont know if its your sort of theme taste but try it anyway)
Outkast (Ms Jackson, Bombs over Baghdad, Xplosion)
Pharcyde.
Thats just a few ^^
Well, Rap isn't my thing, but there's some I can tolerate. 2 Pac, and Nas are actually pretty good, imo.
I like rap because, they talk about some of the things I like over and over...but it gets boring
To be honest, if it wasn't for Danger Mouse's beats on The Mouse and the Mask, I probably wouldn't have liked it as much. I think his rhymes are pretty witty, but his flow is annoying until you get used to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by - - - TAURUS - - -
Cannibal Ox. Now. Srsly.
Why haven't anybody mentioned NWA? If you cared anything about gangsta rap / hip hop history you must listen to NWA
"Post good rap songs that aren't about bitches, hoes, drugs, and being gangsta."Quote:
Originally Posted by Pureghetto
Otherwise, I would've suggested Wu Tang Clan (GZA and Ghostface are amazing, and the rest are pretty good MCs too).
If it wasn't for the person who made this topic saying he didn't want to listen to rap or hip hop lyrics that has something to do with Volence, Sex, Drugs, women and all that other good stuff, I would have named a lot of other songs and artist like NWA. Personally, it's insulting. But that doesn't matter. I still can name a few. I seen someone mention Outkast. That's a very good group to listen to. Go for that.:cool:
gangsta rap = crapQuote:
Originally Posted by Pureghetto
true rap, and hiphop is Mos def, Talib Kweli, Tonedeff, Mr. Mecca, Substantial, PacFM, Tupac, Jaz, Common, Rakim, Eric B..
Inspectah Deck > *, though GZA is definitely awesumQuote:
Originally Posted by El Bandito"Post good rap songs that aren't about bitches, hoes, drugs, and being gangsta."Quote:
Originally Posted by Pureghetto
Otherwise, I would've suggested Wu Tang Clan (GZA and Ghostface are amazing, and the rest are pretty good MCs too).
edit: also, Beastie Boys. I suck for not mentioning them until now
Fine fine
house of pain (wait are they gangsta)
Run DMC
If I am just naming gangsta rap it's cuz gangsta rap is good :)
skip rap and jump into R&B Ciara like a boy is my new hot hot sex
Just a few more mentions....
No Complex - Chino XL
Kreep - Chino XL
Going Back to Cali - Biggie
Personally I love Straight Outta Compton as an album, but I don't think it appeals to everyone's tastes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pureghetto
Well, I've noticed must people on this site are rock and metal heads. So, TRUE rap and hip hop would just fly right pass them and the guy who wants all these songs would miss out. But he didn't want gangsta rap and hip hop in the first place. So, he might as well just skip over this genre...
Now I don't claim to know much about rap, and the second I post this someone is probably going to post something along the lines of "OMG u r teh loserz lol!!1" but from the limited rap I listen to I can only think of two songs that meet the conditions:
- Right Now by John Cena and
- Dedicated by Linkin Park (Before anyone says anything I know that LP aren't technically rap, but this is an unreleased track they did that actually is rap)
nas - illmatic. especially ny state of mind
anything from rakim
jay-z - reasonable doubt
biggie if you wanna hear some clever ass rhymes
not all rap is gangsta rap..Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReapa
Qn5 is my favorite gorup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDcdk76ST0I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSKVkBwcvqk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ2PNqsp-ck
Also check out Jedi Mind Tricks
I'm sorry that you think all rap is gangsta rap.. Its just the commercialised crap.
This post made me laugh quite hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReapa
I honestly would reccomend staying away from Linkin Park. At all costs. All. Costs.Quote:
- Dedicated by Linkin Park (Before anyone says anything I know that LP aren't technically rap, but this is an unreleased track they did that actually is rap)
Anyway, I reccomend The Beastie Boys, Nujabes, Eminem, NWA, Public Enemy, and MC Chris. There's more, but I can't be arsed to remember. Maybe MC Lars.
Probably, but theres still a majority of people who listen to rap, and another large ammount who can appreciate & respect it.Quote:
Well, I've noticed must people on this site are rock and metal heads.
Some of us do both. :monster:
A'yo, I didn't say all rap is gangster. But gangster is appart of the culture. I don't care what y'all think, Rap and hip hop is all about that image regardless if we're talking about songs that's clean or straight down and dirty. This is what rap and hip hop is made of. And it's like that for a reason. For someone to say give rap and hip hop without drugs, women, violence, etc... that's like metal without instantly loud background music. Tell me I'm wrong.
Heres some more...
Bone Thugs -N- Harmony's new album:
Thug Stories
It's exactly what your looking for. And it's also why their my favorite rap/hip hop group
Yeah, your wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReapa
Music is what it wants to be. Genre is bull:skull::skull::skull::skull:!
Hehehe..I don't know what world you live in, but something like rap is what it is for a reason. NO ONE can change that.
My brother is very passionate about rap. Especial 90's rap/and hip hop. Well, I guess what he's trying to say is that no matter how positive or negative something is, it's like that for a reason. Now things can change but it still doesn't change it's past.
Look brother, I know people are trying to make a positive impact on rap and hip hop. And trust me when I say this, I'm am highly for that. But not acknowledging the mistakes it made would be denying what help create a better future for Rap and Hip Hop. I Love everything about Rap and Hip hop. It's mistakes and it's accomplishment because it's all important. And anyone who deny any part of it should find another genre. And that's real.
Nah, it would be like metal without lyrics about death, violence and misery, and there's a lot of metal without those :p. Not all metal is about being as hard and loud as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReapa
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Originally Posted by MirageNah, it would be like metal without lyrics about death, violence and misery, and there's a lot of metal without those :p. Not all metal is about being as hard and loud as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReapa
And not all rap and hip hop is about cars, women, money and etc... But those are still elements of what makes hip hop hip hop and rap rap.
Masta Ace- Beautiful
RZA-biochemical equation
Cali Agents- Neva Forget
Hip Hop is my favorite genre.
I love underground stuff you'd never heard of like Atmosphere, The Roots, Sage Francis, Jedi Mind Tricks, Aesop Rock, Alias etc. as well as semi-mainstream like Biggie (greatest rapper ever) and early Jay-Z.
Stay away from the hos, bling & tripe of hip hop, that is a bastard son of a great creation.
You gotta go old-skool. Get the Sugarhill Gang and Afrika Bambaataa.
They play hip-hop like it's supposed to be played.
Lady Sovereign is pretty good in my opinion.
Yeah, that love me or hate me tune is stuck in my mind. She actually isn't that bad looking as well, and she over states that she's unattractive. She talks sense as well, when she MC's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spammerman
Well, I myself have a very large music range, I like mostly everything except modern day country, I can't sit here and say I only listen to underground rap, and rap that doesn't talk about Drugs money and hoes, because I'm sitting here with a Dr Dre shirt on. I will say that almost all new rap is getting really horrible, Nas said it best when he said hip hop is dead. Im a big fan of old school gangsta rap, like Dre, Ice Cube, Bone thugs(rep ohio:upsidedow ) NWA, and Tupac, and also more mid 90's-2000 rappers like nas, and Jay-Z. I also Like more underground, or low-key rappers like Talib Kweli, Mos Def, The roots, Dead Prez, and rappers like that.
And I will say that I like some modern Rap, like Lil' Wayne(well I dont like his own music much, but he's the best freestyler that I've ever heard) and The Game. Eminem I like but he gets Annoying, 50 Cent was alright for a while but he got annoying real quick too. But to say the least I like rap a lot, but it's still not my favorite genre.
I hate most rap with a passion for its lack of complexity, point, and um...musical notes.
However, I have found myself listening to Gym Class Heroes and Lupe Fiasco and found it rather catchy. I'd recommend them.
Oh, and Linkin Park is a brilliant combination of the two genres. I love them.
If you can't fin complexity you aren't looking in the right places.
It isn't like I'm looking for it. I just base my opinion from what I've heard on MTV, VH1, and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert
Oh wait, MTV doesn't play music hardly anymore.
Well, that right there is your problem.
Nevertheless, I have never cared for rap because there isn't really any singing in it...I like singing. Rap is just so...monotonous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bert
I have to say, Linkon Park definitely hits me with their tunes. Avery nifty combination, I'd say. Of course, I'm not going to lie to you guys, I like it that Gangsta Rap, Hip Hop, and all those tunes you hear today being produced. I also prefer to just chill and listen to Tupac or some Biggie, and maybe tunes from the past. For comic relief, I'd laugh at one of Will Smith's tracks--Summertime.
PP, it sounds to me that your listening to the wrong people when it comes to this genre. That's why you shouldn't judge something that obviously have more than one side to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poetically Pathetic
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Originally Posted by Hazzard
As far you hazzard, I tell you like it is. Linkin' Park is a good mixture, but is for the most part punk rock. Sorry, but if I was looking for some all out Rap and Hip hop, I wouldn't go to them. And today's Gangster Rap sucks. I mean, There is a few out the pack this cool, but most sucks. The late 80s to mid 90s is THE best.:cool:
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Originally Posted by Hazzard
Now that's something I agree with.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReepa
I could say the same for emo music. But does anyone listen to me when I say the same thing? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReapaPP, it sounds to me that your listening to the wrong people when it comes to this genre. That's why you shouldn't judge something that obviously have more than one side to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poetically Pathetic
I love emo music. Evanescence is my new CRACK!!!! Rap is not always about drugs, women, and cars. The sound of the music is what makes rap not the message. At least thats what I believe. Girlfriend by Avril is totally pop, but sk8r boi is totally punk rock. I think Nas is okay nothing GREAT nothing horrible. Rap, like other music has its goods and its bads. Typhoon what now?!
I never exactly thought of Evanescence as emo. >_>Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw starwind
Hmmm...a little off topic huh outlaw? And Naz is one of the best 'up to date rappers'. Almost as good as Eminem...Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw starwind