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Ewwww! This must be a joke!
oh my dear lord~ Jack Thompson...
I can't wait till the "media" gets ahold of this.
That's horrible.
The media has got a hold of it. Sony has been assaulted by critics and media alike for it's behaviour.
I don't mean the media, I mean the media.Quote:
Originally Posted by zorander
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Originally Posted by Roto13
Sony is bad ass. They play by their own set of rules.
It's like a magazine article from a parallel dimension where no one cares about morals.
What would you do for a Klondike Bar? :p
You do realize this is the one Case JAck Thompson will have nothing to do with, simply because it would make sense to fight against something like this.
Apparently the goat was already dead when they got it.
Sony explains God of War's dead goat antics - Joystiq
It's a shame noones going to read that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
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You know, I don't know if using a goat from a butcher makes it a whole lot better. :P Either way, an animal was killed and used for an ad and not for food. (Do you think anyone is going to eat that party goat?)
Just a quick question. Have any of you guys gone to a pork roast?
I have XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Spammerman
I really want to see what the people who say this is downright bad would say at a pig roast. O god, the joy that would bring to the casuals there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slicksword45I have XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Spammerman
A pig roast is roasting and eating a pig, not decapitating it and playing with it for attention.
At least they didnt stick a metal pipe through. And i mean, the goat is dead, its publicity, people get all disgusted but you dont think about it when your ordering your big mac at Mcdonalds(pointed to none-vegetarians)and yes, i know hamburger does not come from goats. Its publicity, and obviously, its working.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
What are you on about? Every cow killed for McDonalds is killed to be eaten. Hell, you never see a cow in a McDonalds commercial. Unless McDonalds hamburgers are made from clowns.
I think you are on to something, here...:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
>>> Death goats and topless chicks..
Silly Sony. :D
I thought you said "topless chickens" and I was like "lol wut"
OH NO THEY KILLED A GOAT THAT'S SO HORRIBLE I'M GOING TO CALL PETA! :rolleyes2
Do you really care, or are you looking for something to whine about?
I'm all for killing for food, but there's a line and they crossed it. This is wrong in the same way running around in a chicken coop and stomping on chickens is wrong.
can i sex it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
Well I care, anyway. Roto pretty much has it covered. Killing animals for food? Okay. But killing an animal to exploit and play with the body? That's not cool at all. They could've made something fake if they were really so insistent on having a dead goat on display. What they did was of no benefit to anyone but some drunk, sick little nerds.Quote:
Originally Posted by theundeadhero
This makes a hell of alot more sense. n_n-bQuote:
Furthermore, the infamous goat was thoroughly dead upon arrival. It was procured from a qualified butcher, was returned after the event and was never allowed to be touched by journalists (no kidding around). The goat was filled with "a meat soup, made to a traditional Greek recipe and served to attendees in china bowls direct from the caterers," leaving claims of "offal" as someone likely mishearing a complaint about the actual taste of the dish. No soup came directly from the goat.
yay Sony~
Yay. Someone took the time to read the whole thing.
I'd understand if Kratos actually killed and ate goats in GoW2, but contextually speaking it's not justified in the least making it even more odd.
Basically if you want this crap to stop then let us Europeans have the bloody games the same bloody time you do! You DO realise this is a protest right? We just haven't said so.
It's still better then the Spanish toreadors, though rather weird for a geek meeting. I can already imagine the titles:
“Geeky Company (Sony (c (tm (r)))) sadistically murders an innocent goat to satisfy the bloodlust of their geeky customers.”
I thought people were supposed to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by theundeadhero
Fixed for truth-of-the-matterness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinenshire
I didn't. The story is actually summed up in the first 2 sentences, the rest is the journalist's bauble.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpammermanI thought people were supposed to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by theundeadhero
Was talking about Tsukasa's quote.Quote:
Originally Posted by GrinenshireI didn't. The story is actually summed up in the first 2 sentences, the rest is the journalist's bauble.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpammermanI thought people were supposed to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by theundeadhero
Couple of points for people who didn't read the article:
-The Magazine was recalled. It never reached 'normal' newsstand circulation, but people who subscribed to it already have it.
-This was not intended to be a public ad, instead it was an invite to a number of European press--none from the UK, where this magazine comes from.
Bad taste on the part of whoever decided to run that image in their mag, but they sure are feeling it now.
Given the product they were promoting, it's great. Definitely not something for the masses though, hence the recall once Sony got wind of it.
Hey guys, lets all take things The Daily Mail say seriously!
In other news, asylum seekers are eating our pets!
The worst part of that article is they somehow managed to tie it into violence in video games being bad. I think using a real goat was stupid as a marketing tactic though
I'd have been harsher towards Sony, but whenever I see stupidly written and sensationalist articles I always feel compelled to defend whoever they're about.
Oh God, the Daily Mail got hold of it, you can now feel safe in the fact that everything it says will be totally wrong.
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Originally Posted by Dreddz
What's really funny is that I'm here at work (its lunchtime), and my boss walks by while I had the article opened and literally says "WTF?" So I explained the stunt, and he says "crazy." and walks away.
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I guess how you take this depends on where you come from. I used to hang out with a kid whose dad had a herd of sheep (a small farm, actually), and the age of...oh I dunno....maybe 12 or younger I saw him slaughter a sheep. He literally just cut its throat, and pinned the animal's head into a "bleed hole" in the floor of his shed, with his foot, while the animal kicked for its life as it bled to death.
Likewise, I successfully hunted and snared my first rabbit (which we later ate in rabbit stew) at the age of 5.
So a dead goat carcass? Big frickin' deal. I actually know a dude who has a few goats he'll soon slaughter (if he hasn't done so already).
The game is about an ancient Greek God, and a violent Greek God, at that. Its just a promotional setup to display the power of an ancient Greek God. Of course a freshly slaughtered goat is necessary for that :p
It would have been better had they stuffed the goat with candy and used it as a pinata but instead of a stick they would use a battle axe :D
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Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm
Instead of "pin the tail on the donkey" they could play "Slaughter the Goat".
I really don't think most of the people upset about this feel that way because of the gross factor, bro. Anyone that's stepped out of the city for a day can handle a dead carcass, I'm sure. All of the examples you mentioned involved EATING the animal that was killed, implying that you were using it for something other than a party prop. I could be wrong about that, but otherwise it doesn't sound like you really get it. It's beyond just gross -- it's inhumane.Quote:
Originally Posted by crazybayman
And I'm going to completely contradict myself by laughing at this. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by edczxcvbnm
As a vegetarian I have an issue with that. In general, all slaughter of animals in unneccessary. You can't say "It's ok to kill this adorable baby goat for a tasty snack, but wrong for any other reason".Quote:
Originally Posted by Germ Hamee
Goats are slaughtered every day, and in this case I think the carcass wasn't actually touched by journalists, and returned to the butcher on the same day.
Also, don't forget that in alot of cultures, sacrificing a goat is often a common, or even annual family activity.
Holy crap, like their PSP rap wasn't pathetic enough?
I wonder what the soup tasted like :3?
As a carnivore, I think I can say/feel that it's one thing to kill an animal with the intention to use it for something useful (like protein, since I can't eat most of the alternatives), and another to kill it for play. You should be glad for that, or there would be people killing pets and wild animals so often that this thread wouldn't have any reason to exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxico
I would continue being dramatic about all this, but I found another, much less biased article on the party. You're right, the goat wasn't touched by attendees, and was returned to the butcher. That eases my rage enough to get over it quickly, but I'm still not okay with making a spectacle out of a dead animal.
Oh well.
Making a spectacle of a dead animal is a tradition in pretty much every culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Germ Hamee
The whole concept of using a severed pigs head with an apple in it's mouth as the centrepiece of a family feast is still pretty common.
Not at any family feast I've ever attended. o.O
In any case! I don't care how traditionally accepted it is here, or in Greece, or in Timbuktu. I don't like it. Stop quoting me and forcing me to return to this thread! ;_; Wah!
It was going to die anyways. At least in this fashion it entertained.
How many goats entertain you by their death? This one entertained me. In fact, it's the only one that has done such a thing. I'll forever remember this goat.
This can't be said of other goats.
So the goat's death was in fact not meaningless.
Yes I can.Quote:
You can't say "It's ok to kill this adorable baby goat for a tasty snack, but wrong for any other reason".
So? In a lot of cultures you can kill someone for committing adultery. What's your point?Quote:
Also, don't forget that in alot of cultures, sacrificing a goat is often a common, or even annual family activity.
I'm not quite sure if you have a valid point to make behind that or you're just saying 'I CAN "SAY" WHATEVER I WANT HURF DURF'. In which case I apologise for my poor choice of words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
Regardless, the Goat wasn't killed for the event and was probably used as a tasty snack afterwards.
So? In a lot of cultures you can kill someone for committing adultery. What's your point?[/QUOTE]
My point is that it's probably less shocking in Greece, to the audience it was intended, then the Daily smurfing Mail.
Like you said, in some cultures, adultery is a pretty big sin. Look at the riots in India over something as small as the recent Richard Gere incident. You just don't do things like that infront of cultures that don't find that acceptable. If it wasn't for OPM, this event probably wouldn't have even been heard of outside of Greece.
And at the end of the day with this, the only valid arguement has been "It's wrong to make a spectacle of a dead animal", and that's a tradition of practically every culture ever, probably even yours. I'm not quite sure if you're actually outraged at this, or you're just playing devils advocate.