Gunblade / Other theories

Gunblade wasn't a real weapon after all, it was created by Ulti (Ulti>Squall's mind)

In general, Griever Ring, Gunblade, his clothes/necklace/silver belt are very similar to each other.

In the game, one of his equipment - Griever Ring was seen created because he was very scared of the concept in the ring, so Ulti used his feeling to create it to balance everything out because she gave her that sword. The reason why she made GR from his mind, it's because of game-playing purposes. Such game-playing purposes have nothing to do with the entire story.

In FMV timelines, Squall always had used gunblade to kill Ulti. But it's different in real time... again because of game-playing purposes since you rather equip a better sword in order to be stronger.

How Gunblade was created? Squall never became scared of the sword, he focused on it all the time in his mind through the entire story because he wasn't supposed to be scared of it. He needed it to beat Ulti. Ulti knew about that all along, she made the gunblade and left it somewhere in the early Present timeline, somewhere Squall can find it, all the power lie in that sword, to give Squall an advantage so he can beat Ulti easier.

What's the point if the current being of Uli always live forever? That current being won't want to live forever, she/he has to die in order to have peace and leave the power to someone else, in this case, Rinoa. Her wanting to die, that's the whole reason why Ulti made handy stuff for him and his party members so they can beat her even easier.

Do you know how Squall and his party members have met again? When they met again and realised that they remember each other from the past (in about mid of the game) then they started having a feeling - that they never knew how it all started, how, why did they meet each other again, how come they didn't remember. What's the real reason? They couldn't even remember thier past, such past that they have met before (until the end). I know how, it's all because of the current Ulti being's plan. She controlled each mind, made changes in the timelines so all of them can meet each other again. That was always part of Ulti's part because she wanted them to kill her eventually.

That plan is completed. She has left her powers. Rinoa is the most logical choice to be next Ulti in the future because of her mixed emotions, etc. Her knight was Squall. Seifer was Edea's knight, etc.

You clearly have a very poor understanding of the game's plot as you have disregarded things that were explicitly explained in the game in favor of a theory with so many holes I can't even begin to accept even the most minute chances of its validity.

Which do you think causes the craziness? The avatar, or the sig?

I forget where I read this, but official sources allegedly state that a Gunblade doesn't fire bullets, rather it generates a minor explosion causing the sword to vibrate and deal more damage. I think it was something like Ultimania that said that, I dunno.

how come seifer has a gunblade if its all about squalls gunblade.. cmon get real.. go to www.i-can-make-a-theory-too.com and leave us be

Way to rip the pee out of your friend and mine, Future Esthar. :D

Nice job, Serapy! :p

EDIT: No, actually, bad job. That made some sort of sense, and was actually adherent to the plot. =p

You're but a poor imitation of a true visionary.

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Originally Posted by ultimatefinalfantasyfan

how come seifer has a gunblade if its all about squalls gunblade.. cmon get real.. go to www.i-can-make-a-theory-too.com and leave us be

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It's not all about his sword.

Basically - Ulti gave handy stuff to Knights such as Squall and Seifer as well as other knights to protect the neighbourhood of Ulti or Sorc beings, mainly Ulti. But that's exactly what Ulti want them to think like that, in reality she gave them weapons because she want them to kill herself (the current Ulti being)

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yes that must be it.. she wants to die.. so she gives weapons to people she never met, or will meet, until her timely demise..

cant you at least make up a plausible theory?.. then we can pitch in as well

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Originally Posted by ultimatefinalfantasyfan

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yes that must be it.. she wants to die.. so she gives weapons to people she never met, or will meet, until her timely demise..

cant you at least make up a plausible theory?.. then we can pitch in as well

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Regarding your post, while Ulti is presenting, she creates her own timeline because with TC, you cannot fastforward to die quickly. So she wanted to die because she couldn't stand lasting forever. Unfortunately, commiting suicide won't help anything.

She met the party (Squall, Zell, etc) before creating her plan, she rolled back to the past via TC to find someone who is more suitable. It was simple, Ulti finally found them, so she has made her plan. I really don't think that Ulti has just left weapons somewhere ... without intending to give them to the party because that won't help her plan success.

She intinally acknowledged that there were children (Squall, Zell, Irvine, Quistis, Selphie, etc) at the cottage.

Again, why do you think Ulti prefered to choose them? She learned that the party has got potential in strength proving that they could beat her. Friendship is very important as well but that's the only thing Ulti didn't acknowledge. She also learned that one of her sorceresses, Edea, was looking after them.

The story of the game started at the same time Ulti's plan started. A bit before that, Ulti possessed the party's minds, made things for them, making themselves stronger.

Ulti has had implanted a virus into the party's minds so that they won't remember whether have they met before or not. If she didn't implant the virus, everything from the game will direct to a whole different way, causing the plan to fail, possibly decreasing the chance of her dying.

Friendship is exactly how the party have regained some memory, such memory that they did meet each other in the past.

If Ulti didn't give the weapons away, it would decrease the chance of her dying as well!

Oh, the flashbacks weren't part of Ulti's plan. However, the party is indeed part of the Ulti's plan. I don't want to type any longer, let me make a simple equation.

The Ulti's plan + the friendships' powers = Flashbacks.
Luckily, Laguna reminded the party about the friendship powers. I wonder how Laguna knew about that power.
The friendship power made Squall wake up again at the end of the game.

Rinoa was never part of the Ulti's plan, it was either because Ulti knew that she will be next Ulti or Little Rinoa didn't appear at the cottage at that time.

The being of Ulti didn't care if one of the party died while trying to kill herself because she only cared about her death. Thankfully the friendship powers have saved them.

FF8 has no alternate timelines. There is zero stuff in the game to suggest it. It has 1 (one) instance of time travel, not including the subsequent return. One.

Sorry to sound like a prick but stop being an idiot. Plus I don't think second accounts are allowed here.

0i agree with psu.. people really want to see more then there is.. cant we just say: "it was a great plot" and leave it at that.. then we can talk about fun stuff.. like roleplaying and big brother: FF8 edition(im not making this up, seen on other forums)

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Originally Posted by ReloadPsi

FF8 has no alternate timelines. There is zero stuff in the game to suggest it. It has 1 (one) instance of time travel, not including the subsequent return. One.

Sorry to sound like a prick but stop being an idiot. Plus I don't think second accounts are allowed here.

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FF8 does have alternate timelines, they aren't just showing us them because if they did, the length of the game would be much longer due to disk capability reasons. However the clues/evidences are there proving that there are alternate timelines. This game is mostly all about TC.

The game spans four discs because there are FMVs; most of the game is actually on all four of them, all that's different are the cut scenes. The best evidence of this happening is in FF7: if you save on disc 1, edit the savegame so that it believes it's on disc 3, cutscenes from the disc 1 period will still play out as normal.

The only reason all the towns are shut out on disc 4 is because there's so much ending FMV filling the disc.

That's probably the worst claim you've made to date. If Squeenix wanted their game to span six or seven discs, they would have let it. DOOM II: Hell on Earth spanned six floppy discs, so why not have a game span six or seven CDs?

Squall's Griever branding on just about everything: No different to an athlete who only wears one brand of sportswear either out of preference or sponsorship (in his case, preference).

Serious question time: Is this funny to you to wind us up and watch us go against theories you yourself don't even believe or are you actually dead serious about the whole thing?

Screenshots then. Get a PlayStation emulator, play the game on that (you'll have to use a program called Alcohol52% to rip the game onto your hard drive in PSX format and run it in the emulator) and take screenshots of any and all evidence showing that your theories have any credibility at all. If all of this is in the game we want to see it. Until you can, please give up.

good question, because they are getting so incredilous that we wont even believe that you believe it.. would you believe that? :)

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The only reason all the towns are shut out on disc 4 is because there's so much ending FMV filling the disc.

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No, I don't think so. In programming, if the towns were unblocked, the path into the towns can use a loop instruction from previous data (caching), allowing a player to enter the towns from the same memory, therefore it won't use much memory. SE deciding to block the towns just to save memory (so that there won't be 5th disk) is nonsense. The real reason why the towns were blocked is because of TC being initialized since the timeline can't be interrupted (the timeline is only focused on the party, thier friends and Ultimecia only). Ultimecia was expecting the party to see her, she extremely focused on that expection = everything in that expection creates a new timeline in the whole universe, so nothing can interrupt that timeline apart from the party and Ulti, that's why the towns are blocked.

BTW:

1st disk: 608MB
2nd disk: 575MB
3rd disk: 599MB
4th disk: 576MB

That should prove you wrong. Unblocking the towns won't make the 4th disk max out the capability.

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That's probably the worst claim you've made to date. If Squeenix wanted their game to span six or seven discs, they would have let it. DOOM II: Hell on Earth spanned six floppy discs, so why not have a game span six or seven CDs?

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No, SE were too busy, they didn't have enough time to add more things, but it's not really necessary for them to add more things anyway. If they added more things, the fan base will have less number.

You can't compare because they are both different companies.

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Squall's Griever branding on just about everything: No different to an athlete who only wears one brand of sportswear either out of preference or sponsorship (in his case, preference).

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When Ulti controlled Squall's mind and created his ring as a monster. He totally became unaware about that concept in the entire game because his mind was always altered. Ulti didn't want him to know.

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Serious question time: Is this funny to you to wind us up and watch us go against theories you yourself don't even believe or are you actually dead serious about the whole thing?

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I think the better question would be: why are you taking my theories so serious? You called me an idiot for making theories.

Same for you, ultimatefinalfantasyfan. Both of you have posted nothing but full of doubts.

I don't intend to wind up because that's not the point why I make theories. I love theories and it's really fun to make theories based on my speculation, facts and clues because I'm a fan of FF, it's no big deal.

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Screenshots then. Get a PlayStation emulator, play the game on that (you'll have to use a program called Alcohol52% to rip the game onto your hard drive in PSX format and run it in the emulator) and take screenshots of any and all evidence showing that your theories have any credibility at all. If all of this is in the game we want to see it. Until you can, please give up.

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Why are you trying to tell me to give up my hobby? Becoming a drug addict, smoker, gambler are no worse than making theories sometimes.

If you don't believe me or couldn't contribute anything that can be related to my theories, then STOP bother posting. It's simple as that.

Hey, just one question, if Ulti wanted herself killed, why did she fight back? Seems kinda stoopid if you ask me.

Secondly, if you could get some backup evidence stated in the game, that would really help me understand where the heck you got this idea from.:D

I bet Squall's penis isn't real either. :(