I'm a perfectionist, so, well, I'd like to max out as much as possible.
I was wondering, is it technically possible to reach 99999 HP, 9999 MP and max stats for all characters?
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I'm a perfectionist, so, well, I'd like to max out as much as possible.
I was wondering, is it technically possible to reach 99999 HP, 9999 MP and max stats for all characters?
I suppose so....If there isn't enough places on the sphere grid, you can use Clear spheres, then use a Strength/MP/HP/etc. on the empty node. I'm pretty sure you can get them all by bribing some monsters :p
You'll want to get the Gillionaire ability and fight some Mimics in the Omega Ruins for lotsa gil :spin:
Technically speaking, I don't think it's possible. However, you can get the maximum effect out of your stats. For starters Agility becomes irrelevant in terms of affecting your CTB speed at around 170 points. For another thing with maxed out Luck (255), you can automatically hit any monster and need only about 25 Evasion to evade anything that isn't auto-hit. Whether or not this will allow you to reach 99999 HP and 9999 MP is another matter, because it's common for players to simply have MP at 999, since there's very few reasons to have anything more than the base maximum, especially when you get can get hold of Three Stars.
Don't forget Yuna's and Lulu's "One MP Cost" weapons. XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Captain Maxx Power
There's absolutely no reason at all to use magic 1000 times in one battle, and even if there were, you can just throw a Turbo Ether, use Lancet, or skip magic altogether, which isn't exactly risky in the end of the game anyway.
I went on a quest to see how high one could go, but foolishly deleted the save file...
I'd gotten a good way around the sphere grid, and while I think it may have been possible to get HP to 99,999, I don't think there were enough nodes left to max MP as well. (I had Yuna too, I just forgot to take a photo)
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Even if you delete all inferior stat nodes and replace them with better ones, there just aren't enough points on the grid (even less on the PAL Expert grid than on the standard grid) to max all stats. But strictly speaking, as people have already said in this thread, you don't need to break MP limit and if you max Luck you don't need to max accuracy and evasion. There are also trains of thought that suggest you don't even need to max HP, so the question should be if its possible to optimise their stats with the available nodes, which the answer is yup :p
You actually don't need to master either HP or MP; personally I have just defeated Nemesis with about 8000 HP. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Little Blue
As a matter of fact, there are no attacks in this game that you can't survive with 9999 HP; all you need is to boost your Defense and cast Auto-Life, and possibly block with the meat shield that is an Aeon, so more than 9999 HP is not necessary.
Yes, there are super-attacks life Armageddon and Mega Flare, but those can be countered with Auto-Life and meat shields.
The best bet is probably to max out the stats, and then max HP for as much as you want. :p
Just keep in mind than godlike HP boosts will cripple the power-up factor on the Celestial Weapons, and most healing items can't break the 9999 limit anyway.
you dont want hp and mp
Like I said...get lotsa clear spheres, and lotsa spheres for the attribute you wanna raise. When you fill up the whole sphere grid, use a clear sphere, then use the other sphere, then the clear sphere again, I mean you can use the name node over and over and over and over, and there's a sphere for each attribute (I think).
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(So while possible, it'll take you hundreds of hours of gameplay!)
When a node is cleared anyone who has activated that node loses the bonus it gave. In other words you can't do as you described and keep refilling a node over and over again to get bonuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
So what's the purpose of the clear sphere then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Maxx PowerWhen a node is cleared anyone who has activated that node loses the bonus it gave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
You can clear and refill sphere nodes as much as you want and still raise your attributes until you max them (at least in PAL version)
Clear spheres let you remove any non-optimal stat-up nodes and replace them with optimal nodes, therefore using up less space, allowing you to have higher stats. For example, if you have four Strength +1 nodes, and use four Clear Spheres on them. When you put a Strength Sphere on one of the now-empty spaces, you have the same stat bonuses, and three extra spaces to increase your stats beyond what you could have achieved while the four Strength +1 nodes were on the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nifleheim7So what's the purpose of the clear sphere then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Maxx PowerWhen a node is cleared anyone who has activated that node loses the bonus it gave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
As for maxing everything, it can't be done. You would need well over 1000 nodes to reach the maxima of every stat (330 HP, 250 MP, roughly 60 for the others). The sphere grid, even the Standard one, does not get close to that amount, especially when you take out the 86 nodes dedicated to Command Abilities which cannot be cleared.
The only way you might be able to get 99,999 HP is by equipping abilities like HP+40%.
WHAT? I did not know this ; ;Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Maxx PowerWhen a node is cleared anyone who has activated that node loses the bonus it gave. In other words you can't do as you described and keep refilling a node over and over again to get bonuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
...but! You could like...
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:kaocry2:
Sad but true, jesse 8)
So what's the maximum HP and MP you can get before your other maxed attributes start to decrease?Quote:
Originally Posted by Firo VolondéClear spheres let you remove any non-optimal stat-up nodes and replace them with optimal nodes, therefore using up less space, allowing you to have higher stats. For example, if you have four Strength +1 nodes, and use four Clear Spheres on them. When you put a Strength Sphere on one of the now-empty spaces, you have the same stat bonuses, and three extra spaces to increase your stats beyond what you could have achieved while the four Strength +1 nodes were on the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nifleheim7So what's the purpose of the clear sphere then??Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Maxx PowerWhen a node is cleared anyone who has activated that node loses the bonus it gave.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
As for maxing everything, it can't be done. You would need well over 1000 nodes to reach the maxima of every stat (330 HP, 250 MP, roughly 60 for the others). The sphere grid, even the Standard one, does not get close to that amount, especially when you take out the 86 nodes dedicated to Command Abilities which cannot be cleared.
What kind of game do you think this is, Median 1.57? No attribute abuses for you. Especially when it would cause so much of a hassle to code if the game had to remember all of the possible stats in that location ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
You could do it. Depending on the version, there's a different number of nodes possible. Subtract the number of abilities (8 in the PAL/Int), minus Specials (20), Skills (16), White Magic (22), and Black Magic (19).
828 (NTSC)
860 (PAL/Int) Standard
792 (PAL/Int) Expert
In the NTSC/NTSC-J, 751*400 = 300400. You could leave 33% of the grid in all HP nodes (250), and have the rest with stats (leaving you with 501). From 0 stats in an area, you would need 64 nodes to get to 255. Str, Def, Mag, MDef, Agi, Luck; six groups times 64 = 384. You have plenty of space, if you get rid of Eva/Acc for Luck. Actually, you might not need it, even then, since there's 117 nodes left; you need 128 for the last 2 sets from 0, which no one starts at (a total spread of 11 nodes). Of course, this means quite a bit of number crunching, stat group tracking, and Clear Spheres and Gil in money lost, but it could be worth it for the absolute perfectionist. I ignore MP (250 nodes); you can't even max MP with remaining nodes after culling Eva/Acc for Luck.
In the PAL Standard, you have even more operational room.
Gotto say the characters will look cool with 99,999 HP. It gives one the feeling that his/her dignity and sperm/egg size enhanced by 99,999 times.
PS: LOL @ JESSE X 8 WITH A MUSICAL NOTE