On a scale of one to ten what would you give Final Fantasy IX's story? I think I'd give it a seven out of ten...IX's story was entertaining but it wasn't very epic in my opinion.
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On a scale of one to ten what would you give Final Fantasy IX's story? I think I'd give it a seven out of ten...IX's story was entertaining but it wasn't very epic in my opinion.
not epic no.. but surely an 8 out of 10
9 - no story is perfect probably so I can't give it a 10. But I do think it is maybe my favourite story in the FF series. I like how it starts relatively small and slowly builds up what the characters are facing. And the business with Vivi coming to terms with his origins is one of the best storylines in the series.
i dont think its worth a ten.. i mean the last piece of the story was like fit into 5 minutes.. they cramped up the last bit so much its hard to follow in the end
8, I guess. It was pretty good on the whole.
Probably 8.5, to me it was epic, the only drawback for me is that it's without a doubt the cheesiest FF in the series, but it was meant to be light-hearted so in the end it was a really great story.
I'm going for 8ness. I thought it flowed really well and fit in a lot of character development for some of the crew in the meanwhile. And it has froggies for regents, suckas. D;<
8 out of 10: not the greatest thing ever, but still very good. :)
I'll go for a 9. Best FF Story to me. (6 is damn close though.)
Great Characters is a huge part of the story. All the characters are extremely well made.
I have to agree with Neo on this one... The characters are well thought out in this FF, and you don't see that a lot.
Not every character I had no clue why Quina had to come along...I mean I know s/he wanted to eat more food but that's a stupid reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
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Originally Posted by John_912Not every character I had no clue why Quina had to come along...I mean I know s/he wanted to eat more food but that's a stupid reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aerith's Knight
i try to mental block it from my mind
I would give the plot alone a 9, but the way in which it was presented and the concepts that it developed makes it into a 10.
Just read the Character descriptions that come up if you wait for it in the beginning.
Each Character is representative of a different emotion of some kind or another.
Zidane = Virtue
Freya = Despair
Quina = Inudlgence, or something.
Quina was meant to represent a Character that was care free. While in the very beginning he just does what he wants, if you notice as time goes on he seems to care more and more about those around him.
He started off with tunnel Vision, he wanted to try different foods. However after traveling with Zidane and Co, he becomes more aware of whats going on around him and the world he lives in.
That, my friend, is why he is a good character.
Eight. It'd be higher but some aspects of the plot weren't developed enough, then there were those characters who had some little backstory for about ten minutes early on in the game then had a very random resolution in the ending (Freya anyone? And what was with this weird love-hate relationship she began to develop with Amarant? Where the hell did that actually go?), followed by Zidane's mental breakdown in Pandaemonium which he has for no particular reason other than realising that he was created to carry other souls; Garland turns him "evil" (not literally of course) in about ten seconds and his allies turn him back in as much time.
Nevertheless if you make any bad remarks about the overall fun factor of playing the game, I will tear your nipples off and find a way to feed them to your mother without her realising it.
Quina is awesome. S/he develops rather well, and is also a good representation of somebody who really has no idea of the bigger picture and is having trouble grasping it.
Vivi? Accepting mortality and all that, I kinda liked his story.
Steiner, a bit like Quina in the whole "seeing the bigger picture" thing, plus he does insane damage in battle for nothing.
Amarant's grudge against Zidane was nice, especially with him keeping the irony in it (not mentioning it, not even asking if he remembers him or anything like that... I bet Zidane really had forgotten too.)
Dagger and Eiko's stories intertwined well; they had a lot in common too if you think about it: both lost their families but still managed to have a perfectly happy life and just move on.
So I suppose really it is just Freya who I don't like in terms of character development.
8/9 ish. My favourite story, and it only gets better as I play more of the earlier FFs.
I'd say a 6/10... It was somewhat confusing and I got a little bored with it, But it was ok. I didn't live up to the epic adventures and stuff that I'd come to know as final fantasy.
I guess if you take the story as a whole from the creation of Gaia to the end of the game it scores pretty highly (8 1/2ish). But as far as the actual gameplay goes I'd give it a 7 at best (still respectable). I just feel a lot of the story elements were sort of wedged in to increase the length of the game overall. This is not to say i didn't enjoy the game though, its still one of the greatest games of all time..... ever.:mog:
If anyone is interested in the whole timeline look below.
5000 Before FF9
Gaia is born.
Circa 1200
The Iifa Tree appears on the Lost Continent and starts emitting mist. The mist gradually spreads towards what we know today as the Mist Continent.
Circa 1300
The Holy eidolon Alexander is summoned for the first time. Alexander is found too be too powerful, however, and is split into four crystals. One piece is given to the three kingdoms (at the time) of Burmecia, Lindblum and Alexandria. The last piece is taken by the summoners and kept a secret in Madain Sari on the Lost Continent. Soon afterwards, a civil war breaks out in Burmecia over whom should be in control of the Crystal. The piece is in question is taken by a group of fundamentalists, who separate themselves from the city of eternal rain and set up their own nation in the Vube Desert.
1300 - 1400
Cleyra and Burmecia sever all ties between each other. Alexandria and Lindblum are "officially" founded. Cid Fabool I becomes the first Regent of Lindblum after winning the "Festival of the Hunt", and attaining the Master Hunter Award.
1389
The 9th Lindblum War breaks out. General Magdalene of Alexandria and 9 soldiers take on the entire Lindblum army and win.
1401
General Magdalene dies at the tender age of 25.
1601
The 15th Lindblum War breaks out between Lindblum and Alexandria. The cause and winner are unknown.
1710
Zorn and Thorn are born. Quina Quen is born. Throughout Final Fantasy 9, nobody truly knows how old Quina is, so this is merely an estimate.
1740
Dr. Tot is born.
1755
Baku is born.
1756
Cid VIII becomes Regent of Lindblum. Cid VIII is later known to have created the first airship.
1760
Brahne is born.
1764
Cid Fabool is born.
1766
Adelbert Steiner is born.
1772
Beatrix is born.
1773
Amarant Coral is born.
1776
Kuja is created by Garland, but seen as a failed project. Kuja's incredible ambition is highly unusual for a Genome, and Garland sees it as a fault. Garland prepares to kill Kuja, though stops when he realizes he could make Kuja become his "Angel of Death" and help rebuild Terra. Garland puts a limit on Kuja's lifespan (about 25 years), assuming that he will only need to live until the next Angel of death was created...A more "perfect" Genome.
1778
Freya Crescent is born.
September 1783
Zidane is created. He is given the body of a young child, which will allow him to grow more "naturally" and become stronger through time. Kuja is jealous of his little "brother" and begins to plot.
1784
Sarah (Dagger) is born in Madain Sari.
1787
After several years of plotting and planning, Kuja kidnaps Zidane and deposits him on Gaia. What use would his replacement be, Kuja thought, if he had to interact with humans? Zidane is taken into the care of Baku, leader of Tantalus.
1790
The Invincible destroys Madain Sari. Jane (Dagger's mother) and Sarah flee from the burning city and end up in Alexandria. Unfortunately Jane dies in the stormy seas, leaving only her young baby girl afraid for her life, floating towards Alexandria Castle. When she arrives at the castle, the Royal Family is amazed how much she looks like the recently-deceased Princess Garnet, and has her horn removed. She becomes the "new" Princess Garnet.
1792
South Gate is built to commemorate the friendship between Lindblum and Alexandria, and the Burkmeia Cable Cars are placed between them to allow easy access across the mountain.
1793
Eiko Carol is born. Madeen is summoned to protect her, and takes the shape of the moogle known as Mog. At some point around this time, Sir Fratley leaves Burmecia to travel the world.
1795
Freya leaves Burmecia in search of the missing Sir Fratley.
1797
Eiko's Grandfather dies, making Eiko the last known survivor of the Summoner tribe. She survives with the help of several Moogles. Freya meets Zidane in Lindblum.
1799
The King of Alexandria dies. Doctor Tot leaves Alexandria and moves to Treno. Kuja appears within the castle, and convinces Brahne to create an army of Black Mages. Brahne has a Black Mage factory created in Dali. Kuja plots a war between the great nations, hoping that through it he will be able to gain Garnet's Eidolons. Vivi was "born" in July of this year. Quan fishes Vivi "out of the sky" and takes him into his house, intent on eating him. Quan decides not to, however, and becomes Vivi's surrogate Grandfather.
March 1799
Garland, aware that the time has almost come for his "perfect Genome", Zidane, to arrive in Terra, creates another Genome: a girl named Mikoto. Mikoto is given a soul, and told to lead Zidane to Garland once he arrives.
July 1799
Regent Cid of Lindblum is married, and the first non-mist powered Airship is built. It is named the Hilda Garde I.
October 1799
Brahne begins mass-production of Black Mages in Dali. Regent Cid becomes suspicious of the happenings within Alexandria Castle, and asks Tantalus to help him in a small assignment.
January 15, 1800
Princess Garnet's 16th birthday. She is "kidnapped" by Tantalus, while trying to escape herself. The game begins.
January 21, 1800
Burmecia is conquered by the Alexandrian army. Zidane, Freya, Vivi and Quina over hear Kuja pledge his devotion to Queen Brahne's cause. They rescue a Burmecian soldier, and end up fighting Beatrix, who in turn completely destroys them. The party sees Kuja for the first time, before he departs for Treno on his Silver Dragon.
January 22, 1800
Princess Garnet is captured after returning to Alexandria, and put to sleep. She is placed within the dungeons while they wait for the extraction of her Eidolons.
January 23, 1800
Kuja returns to Alexandria, and aids Zorn and Thorn in extracting Garnet's Eidolons. This completed, he accompanies Brahne to Cleyra and uses his magic to destroy the Whirlwind barrier surrounding it. Queen Brahne casts Odin and destroys the city.
January 24, 1800
Zidane, Freya, Vivi and Steiner return to Alexandria and help the Princess escape. Steiner sticks around and helps hold back the Basilisks while Vivi, Dagger and Zidane make a run for Gargan Roo.
January 27, 1800
Dagger acquires the Ramuh Eidolon and makes for Lindblum. On her way there, however, she sees her mother cast Atomos on the great city, destroying a great deal of it. The invincible sucks the dying souls from the city, then everything disappears. Alexandrian Soldiers enter the city and take temporary control.
February 2, 1800
Kuja arrives at the Iifa tree and watches as Zidane's group arrives, followed shortly by Queen Brahne and her fleet. Brahne feels she no longer needs the assistance of Kuja and makes a valiant attempt to kill the man. She summons Bahamut, but Kuja calls upon the Invincible to bend the will of the Eidolon and has it attack Brahne's fleet. Meanwhile, Zidane and the crew fend off Mistodons and eventually find the Leviathan Eidolon: A powerful Eidolon, though water based so completely useless in this fight. Brahne dies.
February 6, 1800
With the Mist completely gone from the world, the production of new Black Mages becomes impossible. Kuja, realizing this, makes for the Black Mage Village on the Lost Continent and persuades them to help him in his cause, under the condition that he will grant them longer life-spans. Only a few stay behind.
February 10, 1800
Princess Garnet is now in command, and is preparing for her coronation as Queen of Alexandria. Everything seems to be peaceful. Kuja appears, however, and calls upon Bahamut to destroy the city. Garnet and Eiko meet at the top of the Alexandrian Castle, where the true nature of this great castle is revealed: It is actually the dormant Alexander. Kuja, impressed by its sheer power, attempts to capture it with the Invincible, but Garland has other plans. From within the great airship, Garland destroys Alexandria. Alexandria is decimated, though Kuja, Zidane and Dagger make it out just in time.
February 12, 1800
Kuja awakens, though severely damaged from the attack in Alexandria. Taking the Hilda Garde I, he flees to the Desert Palace. February 16, 1800
Kuja, foreseeing that Zidane will come after him, begins to rest at his Palace. Zidane awakens from the attack. Dagger has lost her voice due to emotional strain.
February 20, 1800
Zidane and company arrive at the Desert Palace, only to be captured. Kuja bribes Zidane into retrieving the Gulug Stone from Oeilvert on the Forgotten Continent, threatening to kill the rest of the party otherwise. Oeilvert, an ancient city of Terra, has a barrier around it that prevents magic use within. Since Kuja's main strength lies in his magical abilities, he cannot go and forces Zidane into the job. Kuja mentions that he sends Zidane because "no one likes to fight themselves..."
February 22, 1800
Zidane, having conquered Oeilvert, returns to the Desert Palace and hands over the Gulug Stone. The crew quickly find out Kuja's real plan, however: He wishes to enter Gulug Volcano with the Gulug Stone, and extract the Eidolons from Eiko! The process is an extremely dangerous one for children under the age of 16, and Kuja does not wish to wait until Eiko matures.
February 23, 1800
Kuja arrives in Esto Gaza and passes through to Gulug Volcano. He gains entry with the Gulug Stone, and heads to the basement of the massive Volcano.
February 25, 1800
Zidane and the gang arrive to save Eiko, though it appears they're too late: Zorn and Thorn are already performing the ceremony to extract the Eidolons. Mog, Eiko's best friend, goes into a trance to save her. In a massive surge of power, the young moogle becomes the Eidolon Madeen and quickly puts an end to Kuja's plans, as well as Zorn and Thorn. Yet this does not shatter Kuja's dis:bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou::bou: he concocts a new plan to enter a trance himself. The team recovers the Hilda Garde I, as well as Hilda herself, then return to Lindblum. Hilda breaks the spell on Cid. Dagger gains her voice (and magical abilities) back. Cid begins work on the Hilda Garde III.
February 27 - March 1, 1800
Kuja visits the Elemental Shrines in order to sway the views of the Guardians of Terra, and open the gateway to Terra.
March 4, 1800
Kuja, Zidane and the others go through the opened gate to Terra, via the Shimmering Islands near Esto Gaza.
March 8, 1800
While Zidane travels through Terra, Kuja hides in the Invincible, waiting for his time to shine. Zidane ultimately defeats Garland, and Kuja taps into the flow of souls through the Invincible, and achieves the Trance that he has been looking for. Garland, with his last breath, informs Kuja that his life his limited. This throws Kuja into an uproar, and causes him to completely destroy Terra with his new powers. Kuja and the Genomes of Esto Gaza take the Invincible and head back to Gaia.
March 9, 1800
Kuja "activates" the Iifa Tree again, sending Mist to cover the entire world. Memoria and the Crystal World are also formed. Kuja enters, intent on destroying everything through the Crystal.
March 10, 1800
Kuja enters Memoria, dead set on destroying the Crystal and everything with it. Zidane and Garnet learn a great deal of the world's past, as well as their own, and eventually come into battle with Kuja. The party seems to be winning until Kuja casts Ultima. The force of this spell is so powerful, however, that Kuja is shot straight out of Memoria, down into the Iifa Tree. Zidane and the others suddenly end up in Necron's world and defeat him. However, as this strange place slowly falls apart, the party is stuck. Kuja uses his power to transport the party out of the Iifa Tree and inform Mikoto of their whereabouts. Everyone but Zidane leaves on the Hilda Garde III, and Zidane heads after Kuja to attempt to save him. Kuja dies, however, and as the Iifa Tree rages and thrashes, Kuja protects Zidane one last time from the oncoming roots.
Some time later...
Zidane returns to Alexandria to reunite with the grieving Queen Garnet.
^Where did you get that info from?
I want to know before I read it.
Sillybuttons it seems like you should give it a 10 after that long post you made. I know you can find some of that info in the game , but where did you find all those dates to go with them?
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The timeline is a compilation from another FF site. Linky Final Fantasy 9 / IX / FF9 - Timeline of Gaia :mog:
^Interesting.
I had never heard of this General Magdalene.
Oh, and it suprises me that Quina and Zorn and Thorn are so old.
Those dates do, of course, get all messed up if you stay at the inn too often ^_^
P.S. It's Outer Continent, not Lost Continent. Lost Continent is the snowy one.
P.P.S. Did Kuja enter Memoria dead on midnight?
9/10, I like the way the story begins being very lighthearted, being all Zidanes goal is to get Dagger to Lindblum, but then the real story begins once burmecia is attacked and the characters open up more because we learn about them and they get to know eachother better
The story starts to get deep at the start of disc 3 once we get a new main enemy and things gradually build up and move along:)
The only thing i didnt like was that although with sidequests this game is quite long which is good, but once you get to disc 4 the story seems a little rushed, not badly it jsut could have lasted longer
Other than that this is one of the best FF stories:choc2:
I'd have to vote an eight. It wasn't quite epic to me, but it was quite interesting. It does seem a bit rushed by the end of the game.
Hmm, I'd have to say a small 9. I really liked it - it had great character development and on the whole I thought it was pretty epic. Also, the entire game is very amusing and lighthearted.. and let's just face it, it's well written. I wasn't crazy about the whole Terra-thing at the end, though.. to me it seemed a bit too spacey and sci-fi-ish compared to the rest of the game.
Id have to give it a 81/2 i really did like the story, as it was very old skool which was nice for nostalga(spelling??), good character development:up:
I'd give it infinity if I could but will settle for ten.
No other soundtrack has ever made me cry just because I haven't heard it in a while.
Holy trout. Gone were the days when such godly individual grace the forums.:(Quote:
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