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Meh, I'm fairly jaded to the stuff that comes out of a lot of reports concerning video games, especially anything that comes out of FOX in particular. Their journalistic merit is so far beneath par it's not even funny.
Oh no. Not this. There really isn't that much nudity in the scene at all. You see a buttocks. That's it. It's interesting how people are getting more riled up over the lesbian scene than the straight ones.
Oh my God, I wanted to hit the first brunette. SO BLOODY PATRONISING. SO BLOODY STUPID.
^ lol, video game violence has affecteds my brain.
The poor guy. He did his best. I've never seen a Fox news report before...now I get why some people are so critical of it.
I honestly don't think its a big deal.
Also: Sexbox.
SEXBOX.
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"SE"XBOX not only encompasses one of the worst headlines I've ever heard but also the worst use of quotation marks I've seen in my life thus far.
Another example of the media having a go at computer games as a form of media that is supposedly immoral and causes and increase in anti-social behaviour and whatnot which, as always, slightly overlooks the other forms of media that put out equally graphic and immoral stuff without ever comparing the two. It's slightly ridiculous that some people are willing to swallow this stuff sometimes. "It makes being a parent a much harder job." Yeah, imagine that. You should look at what you're buying your kids before you give it to them.
A few things irritated me in particular the stereotype that anybody plays a computer game is a "grown man" or a "kid" was particularly funny. I also didn't like how, despite being told that it's a fairly complex relationship that's being built in before you can get the full graphic nudity of someone's backside, they seemed to view it as simply turning on the console and then sex appears. Thank goodness we've got people who've never played the damn game to tell us that.
Just copy pasted my post from lionhead forum.
I cant believe that a tv channel actually airs *** like this ? Jesus christ kids can download males with fish up their ass on the internet and they think a little bit of alien boobs and ass will hurt their kids ?
Jesus the day games will be treated as any other form of media wont be before hell has frozen over, it's just hard as a gamer to take that crazy women serious, only old people and parents who dont even bother getting into what their kids actually do in front of their computers or on their pc's will believe that crap.
Just the way the crazy women laughs at the other guy when he asks her if she played mass effect shows that she thinks games are for kids and not something any grown up people should waste their time one, even my dad plays game from time to time i think the last game he finnished was fahrenheit and he really didnt care for the nudity... It was done in a tastefull http://community.lionhead.com/emoticons/g_o_o_d.gif way and really is nothing compared to hardcore porn you can find on tv - being interviewed about a game you never even played is just pathetic but http://community.lionhead.com/emoticons/g_o_o_d.gif god that is the world we live in today.
Person 1 : What do you think of I am Legend ?
Person 2 : It sucked hard ass, it was too violent and the story sucked.
Person 1 : Where did you watch the movie ?
Person 2 : I didnt.
Wow, this is wrong on so many levels.
Anyone who criticizes something without first experiencing it should not be allowed to even speak.
I laugh at the fact they forget to mention that to actually buy T or M rated games, you have to be of the appropriate age (or that was the impression I am under). No sales clerk in their right mind would sell a M-rated game to a 12 year-old.
Anyone found the study she quoted kinda funny? The fact that any adolescent male who has not had real sexual experience cannot tell the difference between what is on the TV and real life? I mean seriously, are the further generations that stupid? I was watching porn before I was sexually active and I found it hilarious how unrealistic and corny it can be.
I wish I could say "Oh well, nobody at home will really freak out over this exaggeration", but you know they are!
I own Mass Effect. It taught me that to get sex from Kaiden you must sit through days of dialogue and repeatedly flirt and tell him you like his hair, his boots, his lunchbox, his philosophical ideas of romantic space, his life story at "brain camp", and you want to know more, more, more, and then forever later he will finally give up the hanky panky. If anything, it showed me sex is a long excruciating process that I can't be bothered with.
I've never liked Fox News much anyway. I take most of what they say for a grain of salt, but at least their cast has some character to them, I guess.
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Originally Posted by The Summoner of Leviathan
I was going to pick up that point myself but I thought it pretty much spoke volumes of stupidity by itself. I think these days most people will watch porn or see sex in some other medium before they actually partake in it themselves and will be more than able to tell the difference between reality and fiction.
I saw that yesterday, and I'm still not sure whether it's more infuriating or more hilarious. It's certainly both. If Mass Effect were a movie, I think it probably could've slipped by with a PG-13, sex scene included. But it's Fox News, so what exactly can you expect? OUR YOUTH ARE CORRUPT.
Lol @ trying to protect 13-year-old boys from softcore sex. In a video game, of all things.
I would say these parents and FOX News reporters have a far harder time distinguishing between fiction and reality than their kids supposedly do.
Funny, if I spend hundreds of dollars for a game and the system and dedicate hours to play the game and get some 3-D ass, it's evil. But if I type the words porn in google I get thousands of perfectly less evil things now. Heh go figure.
After all these years, you'd think parents would actually realise that just like any other form of media, video games have rating systems too.
It'd be like a parent letting their 10-year-old child rent an MA15+ DVD, and then complaining that all DVD players are violent, immoral and sex driven machines. (Which is pretty much not far off from what is being said in the media about this crap anyway)
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Give it a couple years and the people doing the newscasts, while likely still nut jobs, will have played video games such as Mass Effect and have an idea of what they're really like. I expect we'll start seeing less and less of this misinformed bull in the foreseeable future. Hopefully. Maybe.
I pray that you're wrong. FOX newscasts like this make my day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ouch!
Faux News is so reliable.
Oh so reliable.
It's not like cable news in general was ever reliable.
I know a lot of people who are up in arms over this, but no one really pays very much attention to Fox news unless it provides some type of argument fodder. If I'd seen this on one of the network nightly news casts, I'd think more of it.
Mass Effect got and continues to get a lot of bad press for the sex. Someone tried to argue to me that it was anti-feminist and I had a pretty long laugh at that one.
I say good on EA for this. I was reading many of the comments of the article Pill linked to, concerning EA's letter to Fox. I think writing to them without taking legal action first is a good step. To skip any attempt at diplomacy would just weaken EA's position in the eyes of people who are either sitting on the fence or their more sensible opponents.
Good for EA. It is about time publishers came out strong against this kind of treatment. I wish the ESRB would have done the same thing with the whole Hot Coffee thing.
They definitely took the high road on it. I have some things against EA but that move was pretty much class.
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There's definitely a good many reasons to be wary of EA, but I definitely have to agree. I'd really like to read the letter in its entirety. I never expected EA to step up and do something like this, but I'm damn glad that they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hsu
That link made me grin. When I watched the original video of the interview, I actually felt sorry for Geoff Keighley. How do you defend against an onslaught of uninformed (Uninformed, not misinformed. They didn't know a thing about the game.) bigots like that?
That's a fine reply from EA... but if Fox bothers to mention the matter again (which is questionable), it's likely they'll just talk about getting 'hate mail' from EA, followed with some highly selective quote mining of the letter itself:
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Love scenes... include side and profile shots - a vantage frequently used in... television shows. Sex scenes in Mass Effect are... very similar to sex sequences frequently seen in prime time.
Mass Effect and all related marketing has been reviewed by the Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) and rated... appropriate for players.
As video games continue to take audiences away from television, we expect to see more TV news stories warning parents about the corrupting influence of interactive entertainment.. a new level of recklessness.
Do you watch the Fox Network? Do you watch Family Guy? Have you ever seen The OC? ...the sexual situations in Mass Effect are... more graphic than scenes routinely aired...
...young people have more exposure to Mass Effect than to those prime time shows...
...a legal threat... to... FNC
I actually almost hope they do, I can bring it up in my ethics class and we can debate the hell out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big D
Lesbian sex = WIN
Being without super graphical hardcore sex = FAIL
I dont see why these TV stations moan so much anyhow. I mean its just as bad as daytime TV.
Note to those reporters; for the love of crap don't look into Japanese "Happy Girl" games.
Fox news is horrible.
It should be banned.
EA sent out such a good reply?! Yowzers maybe that is a sign EA is turning for the better? Anyways I must applaud the reply, quite excellent.
However, I thought a Sony VCR was the sexbox?!
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No! that would be wrong. We should not censor! People have a right to live in their own fantasies! However, we should possibly have them put up a warning about how they are only loosely based on reality.
These things gotta happen every now and then, it's no big deal. I had no idea about that in Mass Effect, I'm sure FOX got a couple more kids to buy it with their little coverage.
Big D, watch out! They might hear you!
All I can say is lawl. Fox never fails to deliver these stupid reports designed to incite anger and concern in equally idiotic people.
Oh, I saw someone watch this yesterday. I thought that the person who was making the counterargument against the game sounded fairly uninformed.
It's actually illegal to take quotes out of context so much. A journalist can explore different avenues with selected whole quotes but they cannot butcher quotes to that extent. They'd probably be sued for slander/libel and lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Behold the VoidI actually almost hope they do, I can bring it up in my ethics class and we can debate the hell out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big D
I get the feeling those presenters head's would explode if they knew what Japanese 'H' games are like. It would probably just add fuel to their "games are evil and sex laden" arguement.
No it wouldnt be wrong. Banning should be allowed when media are presenting lies as truthful facts. Of course, media stations are entitled to their own opinions, but when they start lying they are no longer media - they are a station of propaganda in its worst form.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShunNakamura
Knowing Fox, they'd probably use it for their "foreigners are evil and sex laden" argument too.Quote:
Originally Posted by starseeker
Ah...yeah the intended issue is obviously parents supervision over their children, right? I'm not sure, but that lady went way too far and obviously was trying to make a feminist movement instead of actually discussing the game, where does fox get these people? Anyways that was funny, and at the same time horribly sad. :D
Fox are still refusing to apologise.
They say that EA can go onto their show, but if they did they'd probably only be allowed to talk for 30 seconds before being chucked out. Then the panelists would have the last 'fair and balanced' words.
ITT American news channel tries to stop the world population of under 18s being exposed to sex, even though the rest of the world has an age of consent much lower than 18.