FINAL FANTASY IV THE AFTER-月の帰還-｜キャラクター
What I dislike so much about this sequel is the fact that the chances of it appearing outside of Japan are next to zero. If it weren't for mobile phones, I wouldn't mind a sequel so much (though I still think a sequel wasn't necesary). At least the character artwork looks nice and the sprites aren't that shabby. Just wish we could play it. Rydia's my second favourite FF female ever. I'd just love to play another game with her in it (since the chances of her appearing outside FF IV universe are also next to zero. And the chances of her appearing in Dissidia are less than zero).
*sigh* Why, SE, why?
Wow. The characters look so, old. I guess that's to be expected though.
I find some of the new character designs cool like Yang's, Gilbert's, and Rosa's. The rest I find a bit awkward. I guess I'll get used to it though.
I'm looking forward to seeing more updates.
This is definitely the only mobile phone game I've ever been even remotely interested in playing.
Hey, shouldn't mobile phone ROMs exist? Pardon my wording if it's wrong, I don't know much about technology. But, I'm sure someone can make the game downloadable and translate it. :D
Whoa, Porom got hot.
No kidding.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni Legacy
I'm still not very happy about the sequel, but at least the artwork and the sprites are nice.
Palom turned into a badass, while Porom became a harlot.
And they must have changed the rules of the World of Phantom Beasts or something, or else Lydia should be an old woman--if not dead--by now.
I am assuming that Rydia decided to come back to the real world after staying in the World of Phantom Beasts. Maybe she realized that she would die an early death and that she should have been back at the Village of Mist to train the few survivors that were left, or maybe it is a reference to her ageless nature because every character, if I recall correctly, had an, at least, somewhat assumed or given age in promotional materials except for Rydia after her reappearance.
I think that the new designs are very interesting and I hope that Square Enix considers a port of some kind to a medium that players outside of Japan can enjoy. I know that Square Enix realizes that they alienate players outside of Japan when they decide to release mobile games, but they must consider it a better marketing move if they can increase their sales in Japan in the short term rather than market it worldwide in the long term.
My how they grow. :cry: Though I'm shocked I never much liked Porom she was always meh for me, but now she's the hot one, *almost* comparable to Rydia....almost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omni Legacy
Part of me is excited for this because FFIV is one of my favorite FF's ever. Though another part of me fore sees this being as bad of an idea as X-2.
I like both of the twins. Porom's little scowl is dead cute. Yang's 'stache = epic lulz. I like Rosa. New main seems...generic.
I'd like to say Rydia Remains really, really hot.
And now, the harlot isn't comparable.
Well, I am wondering why the only new character on there is Theodore. Will the game consist of him and all of the old playable characters from Final Fantasy IV except for Tellah and FuSoYa? Who will fill their role in gameplay, if applicable?Quote:
Originally Posted by scrumpleberry
Like Before Crisis, The After is going to be chapter-based, meaning they can introduce new characters as they see fit. There's also a character called the "Mysterious Man" who was seen fighting alongside Ceodore in the demo, although his self-deprecating dialogue implies he's just Cain in disguise.
seems interesting, i'll be looking forward to details when it comes out. How long after the original is this supposed to take place?
I was checking out FF wiki and the info they gave (I'm assuming translated from The After web site) 17 years.
Whoa, 17 years. Everyone's like old now. But that would explain why Edward doesn't look completely useless anymore. And I wonder if that means Ceo is Cecil and Rosa's kid.
It does.
Have you had the opportunity to play the demo? I have not read about this game and I would, at some point, like to read an indepth walkthrough or playthrough of the game. What is its release date in Japan for the first chapter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
I didn't really feel the need for this game, but if it's going to be there, I hope I'll get a chance to play it.
Who did the character designs? They look clearly Amano-inspired, especially Rydia's, but they're not quite the same.
I've only read reports from people who have played it, as well as seen screenshots from the Japanese press. Apparently, the first chapter was released last Monday, February 18.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoogleHave you had the opportunity to play the demo? I have not read about this game and I would, at some point, like to read an indepth walkthrough or playthrough of the game. What is its release date in Japan for the first chapter?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
I'm not absolutely sure, but it seems to be Akira Oguro.Quote:
Originally Posted by KoShiatar
Thanks Kishi. Is he the same who is credited in some websited to have worked on character design for FF X? (I believed Nomura only had done that.)
I believe Oguro's only credit on FFX was storyboard designer.
I have done a little research on the title, too. I'm wondering if that was the free prologue that is available to Japanese gamers through their mobile phones or if that is the real first chapter of the game that one must pay to play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
I look forward to a website documenting the game, at least, similar to Zarathustra: A Pied Piper Translation Project.
WHY? WHY on EARTH would they make a sequel to such a great game...on a mobile phone? At least put it on GBA or something!
This really upsets me. FFIV is one of my favorites, and I can't believe I have to play it on a phone if I want to play it. :(
The GBA is a dead platform worldwide, while mobile phones are a very viable one in Japan. But since Square recently announced they'd be releasing an enhanced version of Front Mission 2089, another mobile game, for the DS, it's not beyond hope that this could receive the same treatment eventually.
Rosa and Rydia are just plain beautiful. :) Don't even have enough words to describe them :)
And since when does Porom have pink hair and a pink outfit?! T_T I have to admit though, she's quite pretty
Palom is cool-looking
Wow, never thought Edward (or Gilbart, as he's called there) could look manly 0_o
Everybody else also looks very nice :)
I'd hope so. I really don't want to play a game on my cell phone when (technically) gaming is not something cell phones were made for. I hope they do make it for the DS as well (I wouldn't even care if they didn't redo the graphics, as long as it looks okay).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
Do you know the length of time between the release of Front Mission 2089 on mobile phones and the announcement of the enhanced version on a portable gaming system? I am worried that the marketing model for Final Fantasy IV the After will interfere with a potential release outside of the mobile market.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
Front Mission 2089 was originally an August 2005 release. The DS incarnation was announced in September 2007, at the Tokyo Game Show.
Anyone notice that Luca (dwarf princess) is a playable character now?
Or is it a different Luca or something?
No, that's Giott's daughter, all right. Square has apparently decided that dwarves are just short black people now.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ou/tsfhofb.png
Short black AND fat. Anyone else think SE is trying to stick in some racial stereotypes into the games cast? :shifty:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
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Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
How was I supposed to know that's still the Dwarf Luca if they changed her character design so much? :(
The headpalming was in response to Square's ridiculous design change, not anything you did.
Wow. Yea that looks nothing like Luca. Where's the pointy helmet!?
Luca looks like a short, stocky, afro-american soccer mom on vacations in Disneyland with that pink jumpsuit, fanny pack, and sun visor?
Kawaii Rykishi, do you know if the original character design by Yoshitaka Amano was similar to that of the sprite? Is this a complete design change or were the dwarves always meant to be black people? I was under the impression that they were wearing very shrouding clothing and that their true nature was obscured from the player to draw an air of mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
I wonder why she changed so much? Does anyone think that they'll try to explain this in the game? Does anyone have a translation of the small description included with her character sprite?
The character sprite seems to hint at a job class identical or similar to Cid's — so, if I had to guess, I would say that she is a less physically powerful Cid with a new command to make up for it, like Mix, for example?
This is correct. They were not unlike Black Mages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roogle
It is difficult for me to understand:
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/fi...931%21Luca.gif http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/fi...map_sprite.gif
So they were really just short, black people all along! Huh. I never would have guessed. I wonder if they will address it in the game. I can see a scene like, "Oh, so that's what those dwarves really look like!"
Man.. Just listening to the music on there gets me x_x; fond memories. They seem to be doing okay keeping the style. i.e. recycling sprites and such haha
Looks like Ursula (some Martial Artist of sorts) has been updated on the site. I'm guessing she's Yang's daughter.
Terrible name, decent character art.
That Chinese traditional dress appears to be the attire of a female Monk in the Final Fantasy series, certainly. Lenna wore a similar costume in her Monk job class.
Ursula is a wonderful name.
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e2...kitoursula.jpg
Well, if Ursula is Yang's daughter she must take after her mother.
If she is Yang's daughter, that was a terrible choice for a name and hair colour. I love the name, and I love blonde hair, but in my head, Fabul is the Orient of FFIV. Dark hair would have been more appropriate, IMO, as well as an Asian name.
This is me, shaking my head at SE. And while they're having fun milking another cow, we still don't have any news about a localisation for FFIV-DS.
I think that the costume design is very accurate and loyal to the series. I think that the character design itself is analogous to what happened to Luca. What direction will the game take with these strange looking people?
Maybe there's a plot twist that Yang got busy with Rosa.
Either that, or Yang's Wife got busy with Kain?
Most of those characters don't really look old enough, especially Palom and Porom. Shouldn't they be, like, 30 by now? They only look a few years older.
Stupid Japan.
Is it me or does Gilbart look more like a monk, or a Fighter from FFTA? Maybe he manned up and lost his harp stroking ways and chose the path of victory!
ZOMG LUCA THE DWARF PRINCESS YESSSSS
:love:
Very much so. Ghibli ftw. But I do think the's going to be the bratty character, which makes me apprehensive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
lol at Cid, Yang, and Luca.
Anyway, yeah, hopefully this eventually reaches the US in a platform that I can actually be bothered to play it on.
Looks like quite a neat project - and there's even the theoretical possibility of a release on a western-friendly console in the future, presumably. I like how they've kept the look of the original game, assuming those screenshots are actual in-game images from The After.
It's neat that there'll finally be an FF with a cast of mainly over-30 year olds who aren't relegated to "decrepit fuddy-duddy" or "dies in the next chapter" status. A bit of respect for mature characters at last.
Kinda cheap that they gave Porom a translucent negligee for a costume, though. Makes her on-screen sprite look somewhat... naked.
I actually kinda like their depiction of the Dwarves. They looked short, dark and stout in the old game, and except for the costume change, they've stayed pretty true to that - even the bright yellow eyes. Luca's hair colour's a little surprising, but most of the old Dwarves seemed to wear hats anyway. The rest of her outfit, garish colour aside, seems to be thick and heavy - which is fairly consistent with depictions of Dwarves, and their environment.
It's funny... except for the fact that this'll be a cellphone game, it's practically an old-school obsessive's dream-come-true:
* True sequel to an early FF
* Original characters remain, but some new ones brought in too
* No Tetsuya Nomura to be seen
* Original 2-D game environment retained
* Minimal reliance on cheap sluttiness
* Continuation and expansion of the original characters' stories
* Further insight into the world developed in the original game
* Proof that S-E aren't channeling all their resources and creativity into exploiting the 'new' FF games for profit
...So naturally it stands to reason that about 3/4 of the posts in this thread are expressions of complaint:p
The visuals are severely dated. They could have used 2D graphics that were true to the original game and still made made the most of modern technology to improve the color palette and level of detail.
I'm not sure that was really possible on a mobile phone screen... or was it?
Yes, it was. Square Enix is currently making mobile phone games that look better than some PlayStation 2 games. They're at no disadvantage to produce high-quality graphics, whether they're 2D or 3D.
If my memory is correct, the twins are 5 years old in the original. This story is taking place 17 years later, so they are 22 years old in the sequel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
They still look too young, though. -_-
5 years old!? I thought they were like 10. But they still look way too young anyway
No, official material states they're 5 years old.
Here are everyone's official ages--first their ages in FFIV, and then, for your convenience, with seventeen years added.
Lydia is seven at first, but there's no account for exactly how much she aged by the time she returned from the World of Phantom Beasts. And considering she goes back to stay there at the end of the game, there's no telling what age she should be in The After. (Like I said before, she should really be dead.)PHP Code:Cecil - 20 - 37
Cain - 21 - 38
Rosa - 19 - 36
Gilbert - 24 - 41
Yang - 35 - 52
Porom - 5 - 22
Palom - 5 - 22
Cid - 54 - 71
Edge - 26 - 43
Fan reaction would've been even more critical if she's been left out entirely, though - how many Rydia fans wouldn't be a little disappointed to discover that their favourite character had died from old age barely five years after the events of the original game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
Besides, it'll be interesting to see how they justify her being there: perhaps something compelled her to leave the PB World after only a few months, or perhaps that world allows people to remain somehow ageless, once they're adults. They'll either have thought of something, or else they'll simply fail to mention it and hope few people notice.
Then I can only think they wanted the game to be appealing for old nostalgic players. There's no other explanation I could think of. Which is too bad, because I highly appreciated the updated graphics in, say, the 20th anniversary FF's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
Well Palom and Porom still look too young, but at least the whole "still being treated like a kid" thing isn't so ridiculous. :P
Leonora's been updated.
By the looks of it I'd say she's probably a white mage of sorts.
I like her sprite, but I think her character art is a bit ugly.
I remember reading a chapter summary that stated that Queen Asura instructed Rydia to go back to the Village of Mist and help rebuild it. This explains a little bit of it, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Rykishi
Does anyone know who Leonora is? Where is she from? What are her abilities?
I have no idea. :(
I'm guessing that she's probably from Agart, Mysidia, or Baron though.
She could be a Lunarian. What she's wearing could look like something a Lunarian would wear anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Evastio
The Final Fantasy Wikia article on Leonora is only a stub, currently, but it offers you a little more about the character than her artwork and sprite.
Luca is.. interesting. Also, why is Porom now a pink Rosa-clone?
Well, so much for my theory:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Roogle
So far, I think she's the one with the nicest sprites.
It looks like I was right. :D
I guess I can double post since this is a timely update.
The site has now revealed Gekkou, Zangetsu, Izayoi, and Tsukinowa. They seem to be Edge's allies.
A whole party of ninjas? Sounds awesome to me. :up:
I am sure that some have realized that Final Fantasy IV the After: Tsuki no Kikan features a large cast of characters.
It appears that the plot, as it currently stands, is divded up amongst various characters allowing the player to build and manage full parties simultaneously. Rydia and Luca, for example, team up early on in the game and they are accompanied by those dolls, Cal and Brena, as party members.
The site now shows Hal is a new character. I'm guessing she's a scholar or something.
I'm really hoping the last character that they haven't shown yet is Golbez.
If Golbez makes it back from the other side of the universe I'm going to beat up some SE execs.
The Lunarian's moon making it back to earth is part of FFIV The After's plot though. It even mentioned that their moon came back to earth on the site.
The last character has been revealed as the "Man in Black." He's probably a Lunarian judging by his long white hair.
I'm thinking he may actually be Golbez...
Here's an article for the game from the Famitsu website.
It has screenshots and an interesting promo poster.
I don't know a lick a Japanese. Is it talking about porting the game to a portable system or is it just giving an overview on the cell phone game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
After learning about the epilogue of the game, I have the urge to introduce Tokita's skull to a brick wall.
This cast is starting to look a bit stupidly huge tbh. If they'd stopped with Luca, that'd be great.