The title pretty much says it all. What's your favorite 2D game outside of any games that Square-Enix has made?
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The title pretty much says it all. What's your favorite 2D game outside of any games that Square-Enix has made?
[STRIKE]Chrono Trigger
Secret of Mana
Final Fantasy VI[/STRIKE]
Crap.
Uhm.
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Toejam and Earl: Panic on Funktron rocked.
Lufia 2 and BoF 2 were a couple other greats.
Hook on the SNES was actually rather fun too. So was Super Bowling.
In addition, Earthbound. One of the SNES's greatest pieces of art.
Super Mario world deserves mention. As does Star Fox on the SNES.
Saturday night slammasters was a quite fun.
One of the Snes Spider man games tickled my fancy, along with Marvel: War of the Gems.
And another one of the best was Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen.
Street Fighter Alpha 2 was my favorite Streetfighter game back then. One other great fighter from the Snes was Killer Instinct.
I think thats good for now. :P
Oh, goodness, this is pretty tough. o_o; I'll just split this up into genre, here...
2D Shooter: Metal Slug 3
2D Action/Adventure: Super Metroid
2D RPG: Lunar
2D Fighter: Capcom vs. SNK 2
2D Platformer: Super Mario World
Edit: Woah, hey, Star Fox on the SNES wasn't 2D.
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2D Shooter: Gunbound?
2D Action/Adventure: Super Metroid
2D RPG: Valkyrie Profile!
2D Fighter: Guilty Gear X-2? The Midnight Carnival~
2D Platformer: Donkey Kong Country 3 ^_^~
Mega Man 2 hands down. This would be my favorite game of all time if it weren't for FFIV.
Mega Man and Mega Man X series, Sonic the Hedgehog series, Breath of Fire 1-4, Comix Zone, way too freaking many for me to name them all.
Oh right, Starfox was 3D, wasn't it. :P
MEgaman X 1, 2, and 3 were all kick ass as well. Good fun that megaman.
Edit: Ach, how could I forget Comix Zone? Much love for that one.
Street Fighter III 3rd Strike, Samurai Showdown II, Guilty Gear X2 and Phantasy Star II.
So yeah...mostly fighters.
The Ace Attorney series and Sonic the Hedgehog series, easily. :}
Super Metroid.
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- Super Mario Bros. 3
- Kirby's Adventure
- Rayman
..can't think of more at the moment.
Symphony Of The Night.
Hmm, tough one. Maybe Broken Sword II? Or Xevious, or Gradius (both for NES)?
Edit: Or maybe Balloon Fight :bigsmile: There are many to choose from!
Super Mario Kart.
No, Sonic 2.
No, Metal Slug 3.
Argh, too hard. I don't think I could ever pick a favourite 2D game, any more than I could pick a favourite 3D one.
The original Rayman, god yes.
That would be Megaman Zero and Castlevania SotN. Yeah, that's it.
Top 5
- Super Mario World
- Sonic the Hedgehog 2
- Gunstar Heroes
- The Legend of the Mystical Ninja
- Mega Man X
All good ones :3Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreddz
Breath of Fire II, IV
Mega Man X 1-6
Super Mario World
Yoshi's Island
Super Metroid
Earthbound
Super Mario RPG
That's 3D. Still a good game though =)Quote:
2D Platformer: Donkey Kong Country 3 ^_^~
3D graphics, 2D action.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crossblades
Willy Beamish. Shining Force CD. Dragon Force. Street Fighter Alpha... Symphony of the Night was a good choice. For some reason my mind is racing over point and click adventures at the moment... Makes me wanna play The Longest Journey
Monkey Island 1 and 2.
Sonics, bomberman, toejam & earl, Command & Conquer, Red Alert 2, marios, link's awakening & link to the past, Shining Force I & II, Shadowrun, Phantasy Star, Skitchin', General Chaos, Road Rash, megaman and megaman X, Streets of Rage, Captain America & The Avengers, pitfall, afterburner...
waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many, if I had to pick one, i'll go with Shining Force II for now.
Legendary wings (plz someone remember this game)
Castlevania III
Mega Man 2
tecmo bowl (im going to get made fun of)
There's a bunch of awesome 2D, non-Square RPGs, my favorites being: Suikoden, Suikoden II, Lunar SSSC (the best out of those being Suikoden II, being one of my favorite games ever).
Ecco the Dolphin on the Sega CD.
Majestic in every way.
Yooooo... tecmo bowl is a classic, I remember my uncle and his friend playing that all the time, I saw the NES cart for it about a year ago, me and my bro just looked at eachother and started playing it...Quote:
Originally Posted by IronOcean
I remember having that for the Sega Genesis? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big D
Micro Machines 2: Turbo Tournament was so much fun for the sega. That, along with the sonic series, mario series for the NES, The Revenge of Shinobi, Columns... eh, pretty much anything from the Sega in fact. :spin:
The favorite 2D games that I still play to this day are Street Fighter Alpha 2, Street Fighter Alpha 3, and Street Fighter III: Third Strike.
What a good list of 2D games. Like everyone else, I don't think I can limit them to just one. Some of my favorites are:
The Legend of Zelda
Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Metroid
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Mega Man 2
Super Mario Brothers 3
Super Mario World
Both the first game and its sequel were released on Genesis as well as Sega CD, the latter of which hosted superior-quality music and a dash of FMV.Quote:
Originally Posted by KentarouI remember having that for the Sega Genesis? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big D
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Megaman 1-7 (8s sorta 3-d)
Megaman X 1-3 (I call 4-6 3-D)
Atari games (Yes, I've played those)
Pac-Man
Fire Emblem
Earthbound
YS 1-4
Castlevania (All of 'em)
Breath of Fire 1-4
Donkey Kong Country
Zelda
:D These games pwn!:D
They're not, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brennan
They just have ugly pre-rendered backgrounds that try to look like they're twisting around a staircase or something sometimes.
yes someone else who loved this game my dads friends used to come over and play me i was just a little kid beating on these adults. then they beat me back *sniffles*Quote:
Originally Posted by BolivarYooooo... tecmo bowl is a classic, I remember my uncle and his friend playing that all the time, I saw the NES cart for it about a year ago, me and my bro just looked at eachother and started playing it...Quote:
Originally Posted by IronOcean
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. Nothing else needs to be said.
Fighters: Street Fighter Alpha 2/3, Capcom vs SNK 2, and does Smash Melee count? Its technically 2-D. I also like Final Fight 1 and Sengoku as a beat em up.
Platformers: Klonoa(by far), Mario Bros 3, Mega Man 3, Super Metroid, Metal Slug, Cyber Lip.
RPG/Adventure: Odin Sphere(2-D enough for me imo), Zelda: Minish Cap, Guardian Legend
SHUMP: Guardian Legend, Jet Fighters Raiden China Version, Alpha 2 Squardon: Last Guardian, UN Squardron, R-Type.
3D characters in a 3D world moving on an X,Y axis don't make a 2D game by any means. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Lionx
It's "2.5D," which is close enough.They...they made more than one system, you know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocket Edge
It most certainly is not close enough. The graphics are 3D. It's not 2D.
Gameplay supercedes visuals.
Movement and gameplay is comprised of only 2 dimensions. I'd say it's counted as 2D, with a 3D art direction. The only difference is they use polygons instead of sprites.
By the way, the Donkey Kong Country games are 2D. Just because they are pre-rendered 3D sprites, does not make the game 3D. They are still sprites.
So I suppose if I lined everything in my room up in straight line and stood next to it, I would cease to exist in three dimensions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
If you were only ever able to move them in a X,Y axis, then yes... they would cease to exist in three dimensions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13So I suppose if I lined everything in my room up in straight line and stood next to it, I would cease to exist in three dimensions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawaii Ryűkishi
That's completely ridiculous.
It's perfectly legitimate.
It's still not 2D.
There's nothing ridiculous about it. If something can only be viewed on one angle, and can only move in two axis, then it'd be considered two dimensional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
I don't see how this is so hard to understand. Just because it looks 3D and uses a 3D art medium, doesn't make it so.
Yes it does, though. There is a 3D world there. You can move the camera around and see everything from different angles. The characters all have more than two sides because they're made of polygons. It's not considered two dimensional. It's not hard to understand. It's completely inaccurate.
But you can only move the object in 2 dimensional space, making it 2D! That's like saying a technical or perspective drawing is 3D just because it looks like it has depth, which is a similar concept to polygons (just points in space rendered has pixels in the end).
In Kishi's example, every time you control the character you are looking at a 2D space but you can switch the angles. At no point can you move the character in a Z axis (technical, yes you can, but based on the camera angle it would be considered X,Y axis still).
By the way: I was more or less talking about Smash Brothers. I don't believe you can move the camera around freely in that game.
Limiting movement does not make the game any less 3D. A drawing that looks like it has depth is 2D because it doesn't really have depth. Move the drawing around. You can't see behind the things that are in the front, no matter what you do. In Smash Bros., however, if you move the camera (which you can do by pausing the game and using the control stick) you can see in 3D.
As a side note, even if you couldn't manually control the camera, it'd still be 3D because the world and the characters are made of 3D models. A simple hack would be able to move the camera to show 3D space. The characters are confined to an X,Y axis, but that doesn't mean the entire game is. There's no reason there couldn't be something in the game that does wander around in full 3D. In a 2D game, everything is flat, making that impossible.
As for Kishi's example, that does nothing to help your case of Smash Bros. being 3D. In Fez is even less 3D than Smash Bros. xP
If you want to argue some more, I'll reply tomorrow. I refuse to be that guy in the XKCD comic who won't go to bed because someone is WRONG on the internet. xP
Clearly, Roto thinks a "2D game" refers to a game with 2D graphics, while the prevailing definition is a game with 2D gameplay. And in that case, it's an argument of semantics, and neither opinion can empirically be called more correct than the other. In other words, let's go back to naming excellent 2D games, and those of us with freako irregular interpretations of the subject, desist in imposing them upon others.
Mario 3, Mario World, and Super Metroid gave me much joy in my youth.
I figured that's what everyone liked about Smash Brothers. A game with a 3D look and 2D gameplay. It always seemed way too limited for me to get into though. But I can see where Roto was coming from. The thread title said 2D game. Not game with 2D gameplay. Smash Bros. is still only in by technicality. If they made it using, say, Mario World graphics.. Hm wouldn't everybody love that.. I notice that I'm rarely ever a fan of any kind of 2.5D game design. Which mostly started when that crappy isometric view got insanely popular for some reason years ago. I hate isometric..
Quit peeing all over my thread with semantics you boobs. :smash:
Nooo...what gave you that idea? XP Should talk about oldschool games sometime...Quote:
Klonoa is fun and cute (I know Lionx loves these games, lol).
Although it does have polygonal shapes, i like how it resembles a 2-D game overall like Mario or etc. Ratchet and style games dont appeal to me as much because of its free roaming. And he a cutie XD;
and i forgot to list Gradius..who can forget that awesome game?
What the hell, some posts were deleted? I had some stuff in my posts that were relevant to the thread. D;
I guess I'll re-state them. Cool 2D Games:
- Patapon!
- Zelda (LttP and Minish Cap are my favourite 2D Zelda's)
- Rainbow Islands Revelations
- Contra
- Metal Slug
- Klonoa
- Mario
- Sonic
- Donkey Kong Country
- And heaps of other platform games
Nice to see some Klonoa love in here, the first two games are spectacular. Aside from those, I am a huge fan of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and the first two Lunar games (Saturn/PS1 remakes preferred). Also, I can't forget the first two Oddworld games! I know there's more, but those are the ones that instantly pop into my head.