A little declaration of war

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Originally posted by Skye-chan
I, too, have noticed the board go downhill, even though I must have joined in the midst of its downhill-going. I remember going through the old ezBoard, and it looked like so much fun. I want that fun back.

I fully support you, Bleys. =)

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Can we still visit the old Ezboards Forums?

Quoth the Lorax.......

if you take this seed and plant it maybe the Lorax and all his pals will come back.........;)

Godspeed, Godspeed

You have my blessing, son. Go into ROCKING PIECES that shall bounce around here, creating life!

Quit your whinning and leave already? That isn't me. Quit your whinning and just do what ever you are going to do already. That sounds betterz. Applies to all cases.

I agree this place has gone down the crapper. I don't post a whole lot at all any more. I do wish this place was back in the good ol' days like Kawaii said. Drex, Linus and Kawaii in the post war with me about 100 behind with no chance to catch up :P. BLARG! I could swear and get away with it as long as it wasn't excessive.

Bleys could make his illogically logical posts. I never really liked them because they are a true meaning of spam but "Its a part of EoFF" I was told. I never really cared for them. The only one I like was the one about ninjas. Who doesn't like ninjas?

But times change. Bleys can't makes his posts anymore because of what I will now call "Dr. Britt syndrome" Britt and Unne are not bad people but far to serious and with out the crew of mods we use to have their serious intellectual influnce has spread to the point where we are now. Its not always a bad thing but it is too much now. That is just me. I am no better than they are...I am just on the other end of the spectrum. Total chaos and fun. Seriousness is not for me. There needs to be a balance again.

I would join you in your quest to return things back to the old days and raise some hell but I would get banned by this new leadership and era in a second.

Bleys has always = Coolest mod alive

I may revive that awesome game Princess Usa made....That might help. It has been on my mind for a while. I am surprised no one mentioned her in the list of forgotten people.

Well I don't see my name being mentioned anywhere, therefore I don't think my return makes a difference on your opinion or the old EoFF order...

However Bleys, for what is worth, reading all of that reminded me of how I felt when I left this place, the main reason was because I moved and had no DSL for 4 months, I couldn't stand dial-up, so I am on your side completely.

First off, let me start telling you it is really unhealthy to become so extremely attached to a message board, but I cannot judge for I was almost in your position once with this same place, so with that out of the way let us start the ranting.

Words cannot describe the EoFF of old, it was almost magical, we would post all day long then talk all night long at the chatroom, everyone was best friends with everyone else. We all had a common enemy, Tonberry, remember him? Now he's like comparing Golbez to Sephiroth, then eventually we had edczxcvbnm, not as bad, but someone to target and blame for most of the spam going on. I too miss it, greatly, I already made a come back a few months ago, it was horrible, I decided to leave before it was too late, none of the regulars were here, it was a whole other message board, it still feels that way somehow.

My welcome back thread has made me change my mind, you posted there, Del, Unne hasn't posted, and when I read he left I felt incredibly bad, BOU is nowhere to be found and neither is Cid, those are two big voids, but Britt is still here, Usa posted a little message, Kawaii seems to be pretty active, Agent Proto posted some threads in the FanArt forum.

All I can say is that I'm back, and hopefully for good, I'm going to start posting more pictures in the FanArt forum because I feel the need to draw again after being away from it for so long.

Leave us, don't leave us, that is your decision, I'm back, I am willing to adapt to an extent, I've already found some newbies who remind me of old EoFF, people like Mars who I share at least one thing in common we both enjoy Smallville deeply, without BOU, Cid and the other key players this place will never be the same, never. So let's be happy that there are still others around like Britt, Kawaii, Agent Proto, Usa, and the always loved/hated Del, I will not mention them all but you know who you are.

Bleys, you are one of those key players, and I see some newbie potential here like I mentioned before. Gaming-wise this place has gone down the crapper, I went to the Gaming forum and it's just an unanimous hate towards the X-Box, I was horrified, people was being extremely biased, with deep, smart comments like "Microsoft is the devil and Bill Gates is a demon so I don't want to give it a chance" But games are not the reason I come here, I use IGN for that, I come here to just relax with friends and talk about important stuff like why kuppos like nuts and not berries or what's the name for those plastic things at the end of your shoe-laces.

In a nutshell, I'm back and willing to give this place another chance, I'm with you in making it what it used to be, not matter what it takes, I support you if you want to fix it and make it at least 10% what it used to be. The most important thing to achieve that is to make the vets stay no matter what, we can't afford to lose someone like Del, Britt, Unne or you, then we'll all be in real trouble, if people like them decide to leave and never come back then say good bye to NeX too eventually, so let's stick for a while and try to fix it, for old times sakes.

I propose that we make an old EoFF forum here at the boards, even if it is temporary, with a password, for vets only, you know, the people from a year ago like us, not to diss out the newbies, but just as a strategy to lure back the ones that are gone, then we send Cid, BOU and all the others that have left us an e-mail for the first EoFF reunion, sort of like a class reunion. I am sure most of them will not resist the temptation and once they are here, among the ones we have always loved, once they see this place could come back to being what it used to be I think most of them if not all will stay and give it another try.

I hope I helped at least little because man, you know how I hate typing so much stuff at once!

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Originally posted by Dr Unne
Thanks for your support. I'll do my best.

Starting tomorrow. --Bleys

May God have mercy on our souls.

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I think that's Bleys' point. We need to meet the devil within us from times to times.
We'll see what it brings.

Dr. Britt Syndrome...Hehe.

*remembers conversations in the Staff forum a while back where Britt wanted to have a mass-kill spree of all spammers*:p

Well, maybe it is appropriate.;)


May God have mercy on our souls. -Unney.

*remembers Bleys from EzBoard*

You may need more help than that.

Dammit NeX I'm not gone. I just don't feel like cleaning up after you people anymore. =O Heh. I don't see where people got the idea that I was gone. The longest I've gone in the last two years without checking these boards was a week and a half last summer, and half of that wasn't by choice.

And your idea...*gets shot by a sniper*

BOU! Well this people made it sound like you were long gone buddy, I've been back for 24 hours only :) But I'm glad you are here, you are a big incentive buddy, now get your butt to my welcome thread and post something! :)

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Originally posted by Raistlin
*remembers conversations in the Staff forum a while back where Britt wanted to have a mass-kill spree of all spammers*:p

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I did not! xP

Ed, as far as I'm concerned, you can take your twisted little nitpickings and whine to someone who cares. I'm not under the impression that we do.

"We gotta take the power back"

Let rip with the sillyness; release the hounds of stupidity and lets just have some damn fun...

In my short time here, I've had fun, but nothing that could really let me rip with my stoned insanity... now the revolution has come, the world has turned full circle and now is time to break free and mock all that we wish; cast the chains of seriousness asunder and laugh as you have never done so before... we're born, we die; we might as well enjoy the bit in the middle... and goddamn it, I'm gonna enjoy it as much as I damn well please...

Bleys, lead us into battle...

"F*@k you, I won't do what ya tell me
F*@k you, I won't do what ya tell me
F*@k you, I won't do what ya tell me
F*@k you, I won't do what ya tell me"

I was only kidding about the "God have mercy on our souls" thing. It's called sarcasm. :) I don't think you realize what Bleys is capable of. I'm getting a mental image of a jar full of snot and Bleys urinating in a cat's litterbox. *shudder*

If Sean had stayed around, things would've been better. But we just have to make do with what's / who's availible, right? If any of you think that EoFF is crap now, and I'm the reason, I apologize.

Anyways, we should prepare for what Bleys has in store. I don't think it's going to be pretty.

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Originally posted by Dr Unne
I don't think it's going to be pretty.

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Maybe not, but it sure as hell is gonna be funny! :D

Unne you brought me here and I think highly of you, and if I'm back here is because you and the others are holding this place together.

I don't think EoFF is crap because of you, I think EoFF is not a complete waste of web space because of you and the others, otherwise I wouldn't even touch this place with a stick.

I have a similar yet totally different story....I had just come from a message board that I had spent 10 months as a moderator. I loved that place, back when it had only about 25 forums and maybe 1500 members. It grew and grew over the next few months until it had over 50 forums, 5000+ members and plenty of trash-talking ignorant retards, including some moderators, who made me cry everytime i tried to moderate my particular forum. EoFF was a relief to me. I joined in late January, right before a server change. I remember seeing Drex with a huuuge post count, over 4000. Everyone was a family, there were posts in the Gen. Chat about people hooking up, with plenty of oohs and ahhs to accompany it. The first and only good EoFF prom occured, and this place actually had some magic to give me.

EoFF has seemed to decline since i first join, and i only pop on every now and then to check up on topics that seem worth the effort. The other message board that I originally went to (vgf.net) is finally returning to its old state, even though it is nearing 10,000 members and is on the verge of collapse from monetary problems. I guess the point that i'm trying to make is that message boards are like life, some people come and go and never change a thing, and some leave footprints in our hearts and we are forever changed. There are high points and low points to everything, its a cycle that never ends (I sound like a Halmark card and a Girl Scouts song now) But eventually everything will work itself out again, and those rough times will make it all that much better.

I think post counts would help this place become what it used to be >=D (well, at least, when it was the UBB and Drex/Linus arrived).

Hey, I just think this place has got too many rules. It's become some kind of conference place, purely for discussion. How many forums do you see that are purely for discussion? And then, there's the spam. People say that they've come back to see a lot of spam. Sure, there's some. But in the old days, it was more acceptable coz everyone knew the people doing it. Like "I just got 2000 posts! Woo!" and everyone said "Yay!" and after 30 replies, it was closed. That was fine. :D

Also, the chatroom. It's... lacking all the older people. Del, Chicky, Scottie, Kishi, BOU... they all go there. Bleys? Nope. Sean? Nope. Half the mods? Nope. I rarely see Britt or Asorie, if ever. Unne never has, so yeah. Messengers are fine, but for this place to be one big magic family, you've got to get to know the NEW people too. That's life on the net.

I'm done.

*goes off to earn his nominations for Best Spammer*

I think post counts only promote spam, people lose the status of newbie with time, not post count.

As for everything else, yeah, I guess I agree with pretty much everybody here...except a certain "Alphabet dude"

Having read most of what's been written, I've come up with a theory... Basically, the younger a forum, in conjunction with the fewer people, the more fun it is... but if it becomes too popular, and as it grows old, it becomes less fun and more rule-dominated...

Back in the (purportedly) good-old-days, EoFF membership was small, whilst the people here didn't really give a crap what they said coz' they didn't really have anyone to feel responsible for... but as it has grown, more and more young people have joined, and the older members have either had to change with the times and be more responsible, or have got bored and left...

Having thought about this, I'm not sure it's possible to resurrect the EoFF of old... the only way to do so is to either start a whole new site, or create a forum that only allows people of a certain age in... either way, it just ain't EoFF...

I feel kinda sad for I shall never know the EoFF of old...

EoFF is dead, long live EoFF

Let's see, when I first joined EoFF, it was an "Spam-All-You-Want" Kinda Place where anything goes and there is practically no chance of threads getting closed or deleted other than if it is anything against the forums, because there wasn't as many members as there is now, and it was basically a place where people join by word of mouth. Now, I see it that people get here daily by the hundreds, and it's becoming more of a stricter place, but not really too strict, we had our original leader gone due to personal reasons, and all the madness from the original EoFF has disappeared, but only a few had survived. EoFF is changing, and we adapted to the changes, and it might not for the best of the interests of the few, but for the many to come, EoFF will be seen as a good place.... Either that or I'm just rambling. :p

Bleys, you already know my thoughts on the issue, but let me just say that I'm with you all the way on this. If you're banned, then I'm going down with you.

Just...please...don't post pictures of your crotch again. *convulses*

The reason being able to spam more and loosening will not work, as some of you want, is because there's too many members. And only some of you have lives. As far as I know, Sean still has top pay for this space.

EDIT: Hi, I mean spam forums. Besides, we'd look like all those other forums who have them, and would be classified as copycats. Now....since this debate is going nowhere with me in it.

It is different now, but still good.

I went through this with the other online group I was affiated with for a few years. Our "magical time" was the summer of '97. Try as we (the "pillars of the community" so to speak) did, we couldn't get it back.

Maybe we can't have the EoFF of old, but we can certainly enjoy the "magic" we do have.

Sure, especially for older members, you see people around on the boards whose names just come to mind when you think of EoFF... I don't think the newer members are any less a part of the forums.

Community is what we are. People come and go, loved and hated as they may be. A community constantly evolves. I, for one, enjoy what we have.

I must say, however, I'm very glad you've decided to remain with us, Bleys. You seem like a great person, one whom I'd like to call my friend.

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Originally posted by Spatvark
Having read most of what's been written, I've come up with a theory... Basically, the younger a forum, in conjunction with the fewer people, the more fun it is... but if it becomes too popular, and as it grows old, it becomes less fun and more rule-dominated...

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That's not a theory. It's a basic rule of message boards, or any type of community. :D Ehhh, something like that. That's what we were saying happened to FFWA two years ago. Heh. (There are actually two different ways it can go, but I won't go into that right now)

Oh, and someone wanted to see the EoFF EZBoard, I think. (I still remember the URL. Go me.), I think. So there it is. ;)

Yes, BoBo is right that there need to be more old-type people in the chat. But...it's just so boring! I can't bring myself to be in there for long. :D

LOL. I agree with BOU about the chat room. I've been there only a handful of times, and I've been here since the beginning.

Britt: Hehe. You may not have wanted to go on a killing-spree of all the spammers, but you DID want to go on a mass thread-closing spree.:p
"My solution to all the spam threads: SHOW NO MERCY! Close them ALL! Bwahahahaha!" Or something like that.;)

BOU: FFWA two years ago? It was pretty big. I came to FFWA just over two years ago now. *fond memories* Just after I came, Rob left for 3 weeks to come to the States and the whole board went to hell: the other admin lost his power as did half the mods. Spammers held control of the General Chat and some of the FF forums. Hehe. A Bleys paradise.

I've been here for a while, and although some things might be a little different, I don't think it's bad. Is it just that EoFF is popular now, and not a private club for a few? Anyways, trying to restore the "good old days" never works for anything. It's a goal, if you want to try, and it's probably a noble goal, I wasn't here in the beginning. Still I think it's in vain. It'll be interesting to see what happens. I liked Eoff when I joined, and I still do now, so I have nothing to lose. Vive la resistance?

I've been meaning to say this my entire 14 months here, Bleys...

BLEYS IS PANTS!

There, I did it. Har har.

I've called quite a few people here pants(a slang I picked up from all the bloody Brits at FFWA): Bleys, BOU, Britt(I actually called him skirts, since he wears skirts instead of pants), etc. BOU deserved it the most.

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Originally posted by NeX
As for everything else, yeah, I guess I agree with pretty much everybody here...except a certain "Alphabet dude"

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Since when has anyone actually agreed with me?

Bleys, I know I love reading your posts. If you left EoFF I would be crushed. We do need to be able to be somewhat slightly more spammy in that you should be able to post humor without sticking directly to the topic. This isn't a self-help book. We should be having fun and laughing.

It's funny, I was just starting to really enjoy EoFF again and then this. Heh. Let's make it great again! Gambei!

Well, I havve been here for a long time now, but not as long as you people where talking about....however...thanks to my real life friend edczxcvbnm, I did see what you guys are talking about..I saw these posts at edczxcvbnm's house...he sent me emails of stuff he posted..and eventualy I decided to join.

I kind of know of the magic you have been talking about...I mean, I am also a member of the official Marilyn Manson BBS(also a forum...duh). Around the time I joined here is when I kind of stoped posting there. Now I fi nd myself posting there more often again and I figured out why just today. I was posting there when there was anticipation for the bands last album "Holy Wood"...and now I find myself posting there again more often becasue there is once again anticipation for another album..I find that place a lot more fun becasue of the magic there when that happens....

The reason I told you that pointless story is that I am encouraging you to go on the track that you seem to be going on...I never thought I would post in that place again...but all it took was that attitude that I like...go for it for here..bring it back!!

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Originally posted by Big Ogre Umaro

Yes, BoBo is right that there need to be more old-type people in the chat. But...it's just so boring! I can't bring myself to be in there for long. :D

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See, imagine five oldbies. Say... Asorie, Rydia, Sean, edcwhtvr and Skanker. All back, fooling around in chat. Would that be boring? If you outnumber the newer people that you don't know, then you can have fun (and actually get to know the newbies *sarcastic shock*). But to do that, you gotta have them THERE. So... you wanna know why it's boring? It's coz they're never there. Sucks. :cry:

Do you really want me back in the chat that badly BoB? If you want me there then I will try to go there once in a while and give it another go.

I remember the chat when I could go in there at 2 am my time and be the only one there. Seriously. No Op. Just me and myself. Then eventually someone else went in there. Then left right away. It was funny!

Yes, the chat needs some of the more humorous vets like Robert Downey, Jr. needs a fix. The first time I was in the IRC chat was August 2000. It was much more enjoyable back then as it was still relatively new and more people were interested in it and it was about 3 or 4 times more active than it is now. After disappearing from the board for...*counts*...11 months, I went into the IRC chat again expecting to see 50 or so people in there since the site had grown so much since the last time I was there. Instead I found about 15 people(4 of which I recognized) and none of them were talking. Now I see less familiar names and more newbies/chat bums/silent types who actually talk about FF games and related topics...it's just not right. And the sad thing is that it's not getting more active as it goes along...at least, not at the rate it should.

As for the board, in the month and a half that I was an active poster over a year ago, I had about 250-300 posts. Maybe 10 or 20 of them were in gaming forums. the rest were in gen chat in numerous off-the-wall and random threads. Threads like 1000 things to be happy about where Del Snizz and Acmlm mercilessly spammed made you feel like you'd stepped into a very accepting environment and you weren't worried about what you said. During that entire time I can only think of 2 threads that I saw that were closed and one of those got reopenned. I have less than 50 posts since I started posting again 3 or 4 months ago and alot of that does have to do with lack of silly/fun/pointless threads to have fun with.

It's going to be a rather large pain in the ass to pull the board out of the groove it's in now. Save setting up something with the mods and admins to not close anything unless it's blatant advertising or flaming for awhile, letting them get used to the normal spammy stuff again, I can't see anyway to bring back the old atmosphere.

Now that I've put my 2 cents in, I'll just go back to minding my own business.*g*

We'll see about "impossible".

People say that individuals doesn't matter that much, but I say if we can make Del Snizz to post more, even 1 post a day, this place will be much greater.:D

I've tried to make him post every now and then because I love his posts, and especially his threads. Anyone who has been in here 5 months or so surely can remember that Weed Whacker thread for example, which was ace.

Everyone- When you see Del Snizz in chatroom, give him no peace at all before he has made his post of the day. And Snizz will have to make at least 1 thread every fecking week.

I personally will ding you and make you cry unless you carry out this, Snizz.>=)

Mik, I have been known to cajole Del Snizz about posting more. T'is a darm shame he doesn't.

I've been here about 8 months (See the custom rank?), and it's a great forum. If the good Citizen manages to restore the forum to its former glory, I imagine it'll be a blast!

Wow. 8 months I've been here.:eek: Time really... sloths by when you're at EoFF.