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Claire's a bit of a drama queen but I love her :D I also quite like Peter and Nathan Petrelli. But, if you want to know my favorite character, I have to say Hiro and his friend (can't think of his name for some reason!)
"Greato Scotto!" I about pee my pants every time Hiro says that xD
His name is Ando.
I really liked Season 1, then Season 2 i was just like no smurf that.
Milo Ventimiglia is quite possibly one of the sexiest men ever though:
http://www.duckydoestv.com/wp-conten...shirtless1.jpg
I rewatched seasons one and two over the last few weeks in preparation for season three. I missed season one when it happened, but caught up with it on DVD. I'm very excited for season three, because, at least according to Tim Kring, they learned from the mistakes they made during season two.
@Moon Rabbits: YES HE IS VERY SEXY :D
And now that you mentioned Ando's name, I can't believe I forgot it xD
@Kiro: I KNOW! Season 2 was too short and fast for me, and it lacked pizazz. I kinda felt like Mya was just randomly thrown in there...like "oh, we need a side-story for Dr. Vesh...here, we'll just come up with something off the top of our heads and call it a day."Though, I do rather like her power, even though it's rather menacing.
I AM SO PUMPED FOR SEASON 3! I saw a teaser that was leaked on surfthechannel and even though it was hard to see and the sound quality sucked (it was taken via cell phone cam in a dark theater with several hundred people in it and they all SCREAMED when Hiro came on screen -.o), from what I could see/hear...It seems awesome =D (SPOILER)Claire pulls a gun on Peter! And she's brunette! :eek:
Yeah, season two didn't impress me that much, but hopefully three will. :)
Yeah, can't wait till Season 3 man. I've been following it sense the beginning. And I also expect it to pick up from season 2 strong. When does it start again?:rolleyes2
I downloaded Season 1 but I skipped Season 2 because I heard it was pretty lame.
September 22nd I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReapa
Yep ^_^ I'm so pumped!Quote:
Originally Posted by FonzSeptember 22nd I believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by TyphoonThaReapa
We should have a Heroes party! =D...ok not rly ;-;
im really hopefull about season 3...its been ages and as someone said earlier Tim Kring did own up to his mistakes is season 2!
That and Kristen bell is back lol...she was one of a few things good about season 2!
and i really hope Suresh mans up or atleast makes descisions that dont highlight his naive-ness or stupidity!
Yes, let's make it better this time around, shall we? :)
I hear Season 3 starts with a 3 hour episode :cool:
I can't bloody wait!
3 hour episode, they have to be crazy to show one for that long. Anyway I only watched season 2 I think and I liked what I saw. So I'll be watching 3.
I love Heroes. :)
Season 1 was awesome, and Season 2 was ... not so awesome. Season 3 looks excellent though. The more Sylar, the better!
I watched it when it first came out, but just stopped. Didn't have a reason, I just haven't watched it. I don't know if I can go back to it though, because I've missed so much.
It seemed similar to something else, thoughX-Men
ahhh but one of those hours is a clip show to remind everyone what went down! atleast theres 2 new episodes lol! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergeant Hartman
Yep. Heroes with (SPOILER)Captain Picard in it would be mind-numblingly awesome! :love:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaridovich
Season one is awesome, but season two really blew. I'm cautiously optimistic about season three, but thats only because season two was such a downer. I hope they can find the spark that made season one so great.
My wife's a Heroes nut, thus I have watched them all. I enjoy the show, and just like everyone else I'm hoping season three is more like season one than season two.
I'm really excited for it to come back :jess: 2 definitely wasn't the bee's knees. But I didn't hate it or anything, really. Then again, I don't hate Claire's Peter Pan boyfriend either, so clearly my hate-radar is pretty off. I will be optimistic about season 3. Kristen Bell, zap zap zap...
I'm kind of getting into Elle's character a bit more as time goes on :) She reminds me of me, kind of.
I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and say that series two was somewhat disappointing compared to the first. I find Heroes watchable, but I don't really think it's brilliant. I enjoy watching it but could live without it, I'm sure. I will watch the third series but I've not really thought about it up until now.
I have to admit that I enjoyed the original concept of Heroes better than what it turned out to be. Originally, the show was supposed to feature an ensemble cast from season to season with a revolving door type of storyline. Instead, the characters of the first season proved to be popular enough to carry the entire series; additionally, the character of Sylar was only intended to be a minor villain rather than a major villain.
I agree with Roogle. Still, it's a good show and I'll still watch it. It could have been a revolutionary show but it ended up being a good show.
Oh no, I thought there was a 2 hour season premiere tonight, and instead the first hour is nothing but the show congratulating itself for being better than everything else in the universe. :(
Oy, I'd be watching what's on right now but my sisters have the tv ;-;
I got bored with the first hour so now I'll find something else to do until 2 AM, when the real fun starts.
It was 2 hours, I just didn't check my guide past 9-10 :jess: Whoops.
Anyway. I thought it was okay. Had its moments, but nothing spectacular. It's nice they addressed the time issue, but I can still never shake the feeling this show can take back anything it wants. But, you know, world in danger, lots of angst, Sylar being all villainous. Formula...
lost should get some promotional praise like this =/
but sylar is seriously awesome.
Blah. Same ol' same ol'.
Lots of twists =O
I do wish they'd find something new to add in instead of the "same ol' same ol'," but since it's only episode 1, I'm not losing faith!
I thought it was pretty spectacular...
well i didnt see the last bit coming...
...no seriously i didnt! had a lot of (good) wtf moments this one...liked the second hour better, didnt like the parkman segment, while it was interesting, Suresh..still quite frankly pisses me off with his presence (atleast Maya wasnt as annoying)..aww and i didnt like Hiro not trusting Ando, they are pretty cool though..and Nikki? (or whatever her other name is) someone brought up that it could actually be Jessica.what with her ice powers (ice queen, should have seen that coming)..sorta iffy about the villians plot but i guess i'll like it in time lol...and im glad Elle is still alive and Sylar remains to be awesome lol!
Good start
hehehe weevil...im glad Francis Capra and Linderman (wtf) and Claire's momma (coool) are all in the mix lol!
alright i really liked it.....seeing everyone together lol!
What the hell are they doing with Sylar? He used to be one of the best villains out there but they're making him into a pussy.
Sylar?! what the hell happened to Hiro...when did he get soo...bratty?
he is 0 for 3 for me so far as well!
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Originally Posted by Moon Rabbits
Oh.my.god. Yes. xDDD! Milo was the first reason why I watched Heroes. I fell for him watching a random Gilmore Girls episode, and loved him ever since.
Anyways, Peter is my absolute favorite. I love Hiro, and Claire's alright. But I'm a Peter fan. :D
Trying too hard this season. Throwing in pointless/nonsensical twists, getting more brutal and edgy (scene where (SPOILER)Sylar takes Claire's power) for no reason other than to be brutal and edgy, Mohinder being really... not like I remember Mohinder.
I'll still watch because it's still fun, but it's not going to be anything special.
The only thing I agree with there is that Sylar shouldn't have been continued. I mean, it does make it easier to have a recurring villain (just don't make him campy or super-villainy), but they could have killed him and create a new one. I personally feel that the've made Sylar too powerful this season -- if they don't incapacitate him or make him a 'good guy'....ughQuote:
Originally Posted by Roogle
I always thought Sylar was boring myself. For most of the show he's done the same thing over and over and neither his backstory or personality are terribly compelling. What they're doing with him now isn't all that interesting either. If I had my way, he would go away forever and Elle would replace him as a super bitch villain. (SPOILER)But that's not happening, especially now that Sylar did the whole Claire bit, not to mention Kristen Bell having 5 movies coming up.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks this! Hiro was one of my favorites and now I just want to slap him, he's annoying me so much.Quote:
Originally Posted by *ETERNAL FANTASY*
The storyline with Syler is idiotic. There is not a chance in hell that Bennett would work side by side with Syler EVEN IF innocent people were in danger. Syler turning into a good guy, only to become super evil again might be a good storyline. But the way they're doing it is so freakin' stupid, it's so hard to watch.
Hiro is pretty much turning into the cute little mascot of the series, sort of like Jack Sparrow from Pirates of the Caribbean. That's a bit disappointing, imo.
Fix'd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moon Rabbits
I love Heroes. I don't care that the storylines are getting stupid. I still love it. But what in god's name has happened to Mohinder? :whaaa: Ugh, Maya sucks, anyway.
I still love Sylar too! I just wish they'd do something better with him.
Claire's bio-mother > her adoptive mother, by a million miles. Claire needed to be taken down a peg or two, but now it looks like she's gonna take her turn at the mind numbingly stupid anyway, but never mind. I still love her. :D
PETER PETRELLI FOR LIFE.
Oh, and am I the only one who's fed up of Ali Larter playing a different character every season? :rolleyes2
I used to really like Milo. But his relationship with Hayden Panettiere seriously creeps me out.
I don't really see a problem with it. It's not like she's underage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
Actors or Characters?
Anyway, I've been waiting for Bob to die for a long time, and I'm actually quite happy with the direction the story is treading in so far. It's obvious that Mohinder is becoming The Fly, but Claire seriously needs to become Wolverine. She doesn't actually need the claws, but some metal grafted to her bones would make her a serious badass, imho. She'd be even better than Wolverine since wolf-boy can still feel the pain of his claws coming out of his knuckles. Claire wouldn't even feel the operation so she wouldn't need anaesthesia or pain killers. I think it would be awesome if Sylar could overcome his power-lust and redeem himself by goodying up. But chances of that are slim at best, likely the previews we've been getting so far are of a season-long tease that will make us hope he'll be a benevolent badass like that "Armada crap with Starscream" only to have the bridge blasted from beneath.
Except, she was when they started dating. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Spiffing CheeseI don't really see a problem with it. It's not like she's underage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
Depends where they were. In many places it's 17, or even younger :p And anyway the age of consent is about sex, not dating. They might have stayed legit until she was legal ;oQuote:
Originally Posted by MirielExcept, she was when they started dating. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Spiffing CheeseI don't really see a problem with it. It's not like she's underage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
much better episode!
poor gabriel! :( (only 2 episodes where i actually felt sorry for the guy!)
hmm wonder where bennet was!? and how does future peter die...i just figured if the hatian wasnt in proximaty he'd heal again!
and im kinda interested whats happening to present Peter...maybe he can grow a spine and depend on himself more often!!
lol "son of a bitc....!"
Omg, yeah right. You know they were boinking while she was still underage. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
I missed today's episode because I really wasn't interested in watching it. That bodes badly for the show.
She was 17 when they starting dating, wasn't she? I thought the age of consent WAS 17. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by MirielOmg, yeah right. You know they were boinking while she was still underage. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
I missed today's episode because I really wasn't interested in watching it. That bodes badly for the show.
It is considered a taboo though. No one likes someone dating someone else under the legal age of consent. In fact (disclaimer: not really a fact), there are rare cases where people are arrested for suspicion of sexual conduct without having any basis for the accusation.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
Jesus. Whatever. Maybe he broke the law for a couple of months before she turned 18 and magically on that day grew more mature and capable of making these decisions which she was unable to soundly make 24 hours earlier. :rolleyes2
As for the show itself. Last night's episode was retarded, but also awesome, and the awesome was so intense that I didn't care that it was retarded.
Hiro is so annoying now though.
Yes. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
And I thought the latest episode was great fun. Mommy!Sylar ftw.
For all the random "wtf, that makes no sense" moments in the last episode, I was actually entertained by it. Claire is cringe worthy as a villain. So soooo bad. Sucks that the most annoying character is the one who literally cannot die. I actually really liked the interaction between Syler and Peter. Mama Petrelli is really starting to grate.
Jesus, it's just random celebrity gossip, no need to get your panties in a bunch and make it some debate on when a person is or isn't ready to bump uglies. :rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
I felt so, so bad for Sylar when they killed his son :( Ah well, I suppose Costa Verde being blown up was somewhat good enough compensation...can't EVER compensate for the death of a loved one.
I agree with all of this, in particular the part about Claire being super annoying. I'm starting to think I would actually like it better without her on the show.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
No. Sorry, but no. Accusing someone of stat rape is not random celebrity gossip.Quote:
Originally Posted by MirielJesus, it's just random celebrity gossip, no need to get your panties in a bunch and make it some debate on when a person is or isn't ready to bump uglies. :rolleyes2Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
Can I just mention that I'm THRILLED that David Anders is back on the show? I love him to pieces.
"Hiro, you SON OF A BI----"
Hee. :D
Again, making a big deal out of nothing. Chill. I don't see anyone saying, "oh mah gah, Milo is a rapist!!!!!" And aside from you, no one is acting like it's srs business. I think that they're a creepy couple in the same way I think Dexter’s Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter dating is creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
They are? Omigod! I usually ignore celebrity gossip but that's pretty juicy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
I'm finally caught up. xP I watched all of Season 2 and what's been shown of Season 3.
Ok, several characters either need to be seriously nerfed or killed.
Peter. He's too freaking powerful. He can control time itself and never die. Come on. There's no reason anything going on has to actually be a conflict. He can just go back in time and, like, abort everyone if he wants. Plus, he reminds me of Keanu Reeves. I keep expecting him to go "Whoah" at random intervals.
Hiro needs to get his time travel powers just taken away. Promising not to go back in time isn't good enough. There's no reason he can't just rewind time a few seconds every time something bad happens. That wouldn't really hurt anything. Using knowledge of the present to change the immediate past is a lot less smurfed up than using knowledge of the distant future to change the present. Speaking of traveling to the future, that's getting annoying. It already happened in the first season, then in the second season, and now again in the third season. It's tired. Let it go.
Sylar was this big scary monster in season 1 and now he's a pussy. This is not cool. There's no reason for him to be there if people aren'tbaked about him, especially now that he's pretty much invincible.
Those are the guys that are testing the limits of my suspension of disbelief. :P I don't mind the little things, like Future Sylar just happening to have an art easel right next to him at the perfect time. :P It's just that some of these characters are seriously too powerful and anyone with an ounce of sense would be able to use their powers to save the world in like a minute.
Also, Angela Petrelli just gets creepier and creepier. Kudos to her actress for being awesome :thumb:
And, I agree with you, Rhody, on Peter being so similar to Keanu Reeves. It's kind of an annoyance -.o
I like Angela. xP She's such an awesome, awesome bitch.
agree'd. She's so...manipulative and crazy and....:excited:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
Yeah, Pete's power makes him pretty much a god and that's no good. The characters on this show are pretty much all taking bizarre turns, and I don't like it. With the powers that these people have pretty much anything can be undone, which is a total copout.
Lies. You pretty blatantly implied that accusation.Quote:
Originally Posted by MirielAgain, making a big deal out of nothing. Chill. I don't see anyone saying, "oh mah gah, Milo is a rapist!!!!!" And aside from you, no one is acting like it's srs business. I think that they're a creepy couple in the same way I think Dexter’s Michael C. Hall and Jennifer Carpenter dating is creepy.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
No words can describe how much I HATE HATE HATE the way they smurf with time on this show. It's one thing to create bizarre rules of time and then stick to it, but I don't even think that they know what their own rules are anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
Oh did I? Wow, cause even the idea of rape didn't (NOT ONCE) cross my mind when I made my posts about their relationship. Yeah, they were probably smurfing before she turned 18. Hell, if I were 17 and I could be doing Milo Ventimiglia, I would. That has nothing to do with why I think they're creepy together. And I think any normal person would infer that whatever I thought about their relationship, creepy or otherwise, my posts make it clear that it's pretty insignificant and NOT A BIG DEAL. And you shouldn't get so worked up over it and try to be all drama-rama by making it into something it's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
And you know what? I think your fixation on a throwaway comment is kinda strange too. Hey, how about this. I think Spencer and Heidi are the creepiest smurfing couple in the Universe. You wanna jump all over that comment too?
I was taking it seriously, because your implication is serious. I wasn't going ape
well said sir! that and creeepy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
edit: Heroes: Extraordinary people doing very stupid things!
If Ando's really gone im out though! though i doubt they'll go that..
So i guess Arthur's the big bad now?! lol
I don't get why Peter had to take Sylar's power. He was basically told "if you take my power, you will hunger to kill people like I did" but for some reason its the key to saving the world so he has to?
I also don't get why he didn't automatically have Sylar's power after being around him like he did with everyone else's powers.
Ando isn't dead for good. xP Hiro's going to go back in time to save him once he has all the information he needs. That's my guess, anyway. He's not going to just kill Ando because he was told to. xD
Yeah, the Ando thing is a pretty cheap scare tactic. :p
Yeah that Ando thing was pretty weird, but I'm a bit confused here. What is Peter's powers, because to me it seems like he's a god or something because he can travel through time, put himself in another person's body, stop time, and use telekenisis.
Also flying, teleportation, invisibility and invincibility. xD
Peter's power is to use the powers of people he meets. He's always taken the powers of people without knowing, though, so it's pretty weird that Sylar had to give his to him. :P
This is why he's such a cheap character. He is like a god.
I am disappointed with the writers' inability to give a Latino or black character a meaningful role. It is insulting that Maya plays such a subservient role despite her power and her motivations.
Oh, I dunno. I think D.L. was important enough while he was alive, and last season his niece had a big enough role. (Whatever happened to her, anyway? Or Mikah for that matter?)
I think Maya is fine doing what she's doing. Last season she was there to give Sylar a potential victim. She's probably better now that she's with Mohinder. She never wanted her powers and wants to get rid of them because she considers them a curse, so she stays with him in hopes to find a cure. On the other end, there's Mohinder (who is also a visible minority, remember), who considers powers a blessing. Now he's finding them to be a curse, much like Maya. I think they work pretty well together. He needs someone there to watch him as he goes crazy. :P
Mikah and D.L.'s niece were cut from the show. Also, am I the only one finding this season easily predictable?
Hiro killing Ando was so lame.
I think it might be a liiiittle bit too late for that keeping Mohinder sane thing :p
Wasn't impressed with this episode. They're just trying to throw as much ridiculous crap as they can around in order to get people paying attention. Aside from the Linderman revelation, nothing much meaty happened.
I see what they're trying to do with the whole "Heroes and Villains" thing but it's generally being done hamfisted. Peter, especially. However the Sylar stuff is still pretty interesting, though I suspect that's more due to Quinto than the writers.
Who said anything about keeping him sane? xP
I've actually liked the past two episodes quite a bit. They are trying pretty hard, but it's keeping my interest. I mostly watch Heroes because it follows Chuck anyway. Chuck is a far superior show by the way :bigsmile:
I don't understand why Peter didn't automatically get Sylar's power either, but I'm glad he did myself. He's going bananas now and that takes him out from the group more. Maybe now they can't rely on him so much. I've grown to like the Sylar situation. Claire seemed to go from hating him a lot to not hating him all that much pretty fast.
Hiro killing Ando was strange. I had to do something else during a few of his scenes too, and I missed why he wanted to join this group so bad he'd do that goddamnit. But, yeah, he'll fix it at some point, but still... When you see Ando acquiring powers and fighting you in the future, you're probably going to fulfill that prophecy by destroying his trust completely.
Micah won't be in the show now? :( I liked him.
Regardless, the Niki, DL, and Micah storyline was kept in the background of the series for its entire duration and was hardly a focal point of the series from the writers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
You say that they had a big enough role, but the fact is that nobody else seemed to think so because Micah and Monica were written off without even an acknowledgement to the audience. Dana Davis, the actress for Monica, even guest starred in an early episode this season and her scenes were cut from the show in production.
I am not saying that the lack of development behind Latino and black characters is intentional, but it comes in rather poor taste when the show was advertised to have such a diverse cast before its premiere. There is a saying about this show that goes like, "If you're black, you ain't coming back!" and it's mostly true aside from The Haitian, who only appears every few episodes taking orders from someone.
At this point, I am guessing that Maya will not survive this season for whatever reason.
I thought the "watch him" part was about stopping it. I see that I was wrong! xDQuote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
Something I didn't get from the last episode:
(SPOILER)I'm pretty sure Sylar picked up all of the abilities of all the murder victims in the first season. Even so, we see him do things which confirm it -- he liquifies solid objects in front of Mohinder and he was visibly annoyed by Dale Smither's super hearing powers.
Now, this last point I'd like to address. It seems like Sylar actually understands the power so much that he has better use of those abilities than the host. So why was he not able to hear Noah talk to the Canfield (Vortex person)? We see the camera shift to Sylar's perspective and he was not able to hear anything.
I am able to suspend disbelief for the purposes of plot, but at the same time, it bugged me enough to post it, so bleh.
that is something I was wondering about during that small segment....it made me thing wtf....bc I remember the woman he got the abilities from...always wearing headphones and the such
(SPOILER)I thought Sylar did hear them and was playing dumb. Later, in the car, Sylar mentions Noah's plot when he's trying to persuade Claire about her Dad. Noah has a look of, "Oh crap, you heard that?" They never spoke of the situation in front of Sylar so either: A) Sylar heard what was going on and played dumb in case he could use it to his advantage or B) Claire and Noah mentioned something about it in front of Sylar between the carousel and when we cut to them in the car which we didn't see. I still think it's A.
I need to go back watching this.
I eventually had to buy this train of thought (A)Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Mullet
Whichever the case, the supers have too much power.
Taken from Heroeswiki:
(SPOILER)According to a response in the Sept. 30, 2008 Behind the Eclipse CBR Q&A, Sylar lost the previous abilities he had gained, except for intuitive aptitude and telekinesis, due to his exposure to the Shanti virus and had to start over in gaining other abilities. The lost abilities would include freezing, enhanced memory, melting, enhanced hearing, precognition, and induced radioactivity. However, Sylar was able to use induced radioactivity and precognition in a possible future (I Am Become Death). In a response in the Oct. 13, 2008 Behind the Eclipse CBR Q&A, it was clarified that Sylar reacquired those powers during the time period inbetween the present and the future shown in the episode.
*nods* A makes the most sense, and I have to go with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PureghettoI eventually had to buy this train of thought (A)Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying Mullet
Whichever the case, the supers have too much power.
Also, why haven't they been showing much of Matt lately, other than (SPOILER)when he's painting the future? That's kind of bugging me because I'd like to see how (SPOILER)him and Daphne end up together in the end.
I had actually bought the super hearing explanation, until Craig posted that :p
In other words: total cop-out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig
Basically yeah.
Godlike characters are a really bad idea.
I'm telling Dr. Manhattan you said that. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
Ugh, Tim Kring stop messing up the continuity.
Seriously though, the writers need to pay more attention.
Alan Moore doesn't count because he is himself a Godlike man and can basically do whatever he pleases.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13I'm telling Dr. Manhattan you said that. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
What I saw last night was pretty clever he didn't kill Ando after all and with Hiro trying to catch the African fortune teller was funny. I also liked that puppetmaster guy I just they gave him a little more time because he has the potential to be a classic villain. I'm mad I didn't think of him myself.
Another question I have is about Peter's father I thought he was pretty cool until I saw that he could suck away Peter's powers, do we really need another god-like person on the show?
Why not just throw in God.
He smites them all! The end!
The first time we saw the death scene, one of the first things that ran through my mind was that Hiro had stopped time, and had time to plan some shenanigans to fake the killing. But then I thought, "nah... that's too lame even for Heroes."
Hahaha, but would ya look at that. Even though I thought the "killing" was lame, I gave Heroes credit for having some balls. Lame ass balls, but still balls. I don't think you can get much cheesier than the cop-out they gave for Ando's death.
Ando dying last episode really didn't need to happen because it was pretty obvious that Hiro wasn't actually going to kill him. xP At least they didn't drag the explanation out too long, like they were actually building any suspense. :P
The part with the Russian Roulette was also really predictable. It's like "O NOES! One person is going to get shot! I wonder who it could be?" Of course it was going to be the invincible girl. :P It was entertaining, though.
Peter isn't a god character any more. :o That's like the best thing that could possibly happen to him. I was thinking he'd either need to be nerfed or killed off. Looks like they decided to nerf him. Though I'm pretty sick of this recurring theme of stealing people's powers. Just let it go already.
I think this episode was pretty good, all things considered. :P It gives me hope that they might actually fix things.
Yes, I think the theft of Peter's powers is mostly a good thing. Of course, Arthur Petrelli is going to have some pretty stupid moments, since he's got all those powers, but I still think it's better that they belong to a villain—assuming he is—than a "hero". That being said, the recurring "are they heroes or villains?" thing is getting pretty tired. Most of the time it feels like the show is just repeating itself.
Im pretty Glad Peter's powers were taken away! He definatley takes te dumbass award for this show....imean did he actually blame Sylar for giving him these abilities, like it was forced upon him lol...Its kinda funny this is what..the 3rd volume in a row where Peter has inadvertently cause the "ending of the world" plot lol!
It was a good episode but im worried they're going to spend the next few episodes of Peter having his Self Pity party....!!
It might be obnoxious but it at least explains how Peter and Sylar inherited their god-like glean-from-others abilities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Depression Moon
Lunar made a good point in my user notes. :P Why did Daphne freeze when Hiro stopped time to not kill Ando? She didn't freeze that other time he stopped time.
On that thought, does everything around Daphne stop whenever Hiro freezes time anywhere in the world? :P
Well one theory behind a freeze time ability is that the person doesn't stop time they just slow it way down. This has been used in other media before. When she uses her ability she goes so fast that to Hiro it appears that she is moving in normal time. When she isn't using her ability she is moving at normal speed and subject to Hiro's ability. Not all the characters use their ability all the time, so she probably just wasn't using it then.
I am saddened by what happened to Adam Monroe. :( He was one of the more likable characters even if he was a villain.
It really bugs me that this show can do whatever they want without regard to continuity. And nobody cares because the masses are all like omg heroes. The show started off so well with a good concept and then settled into this predictable pattern of some new godlike villain and some doomsday scenario that the heroes must stop. And this isn't going to end any time soon because it's actually what John Q. Public wants to see.
Ah. So super speed is probably something she just turns on and off. :P
I didn't even consider that to be a problem. Good catch.
I'm predicting that (SPOILER)Sylar will be the one to defeat Arthur Petrelli. He's the only one who seems to be able to do it. The question is how
THEY KILLED ADAM. WHAT THE smurf. GRRRR. :mad2:
I'm just glad someone can kill regenerators. (Even if he is a regenerator himself now. xP)
But Adam was the last charming character on the show. He was just so... charming! :(
I agree. It really sucked. It's sad that a guy lives thousands of years and meets his end that way.
I am encouraged by Hiro from this last episode. He's acting less like a bitch and more like the old Hiro. Hopefully the removal of Peter's powers will make him more like the old Peter too.
I never liked Peter much, old or new. He's always been one of the weakest links (out of the many there are) in the series to me. Or rather, Milo Ventimiglia is the weak link. His face seems to be limited to two or three expressions:
http://www.duckydoestv.com/wp-conten...shirtless1.jpg
"Bothered"
http://googlx.com/hiro/heroes-20-2007-05-22-thumb.jpg
"Very bothered"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...r.Petrelli.jpg
"Not so bothered but a little bothered but not very"
Yah, i can't stand Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantzien
I'm also glad Adam has gone.(I only realised after a few minutes of watching that he died from losing his powers, and that Arthur can't make people turn old. Silly me :rolleyes2)
It's such a good thing that the show is painting over series 2, disassociating itself from it entirely. The only good character to come out of Series 2 was Elle. (Though many disagree).
I've got you beat. I didn't realize Arthur's powers until he did it to Peter. When Arthur did it to Adam, I seriously thought "Good gosh, did they really just rip that straight from The Mummy?" I thought sucking away Adam's life from him completed Arthur's body or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by NecronYah, i can't stand Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantzien
I'm also glad Adam has gone.(I only realised after a few minutes of watching that he died from losing his powers, and that Arthur can't make people turn old. Silly me :rolleyes2)
It's such a good thing that the show is painting over series 2, disassociating itself from it entirely. The only good character to come out of Series 2 was Elle. (Though many disagree).
Yeah, i think i realized a few hours AFTER everyone else. =P.
There is something that is confusing me however (if it's been covered in this thread already, sorry, i haven't read the previous 7 pages). Angela is in this sort of 'paralysis' thing right? So, does this mean that:
1. Arthur Petrelli spoke to her in the future (which she dreamt), making her paralyzed.
2. Matt's Dad (forever forgetting his name), made Arthur appear before her, and sent her cuckoo.
3. (This is a long shot) Doyle is somehow involved.
However, knowing my bad speculating, this is all probably wrong. (My speculation of Tracy was that Nikki survived the explosion because Tracy made her freeze herself. - turned out quite wrong.)
I guess without his powers, Adam turned into a centuries-old person and centuries-old people are skeletons. xP
I don't really like Peter, either. I think I mentioned it earlier in the thread.
*looks*
Looking back, that doesn't really show how much I hate Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
I seriously hate Peter and when I realized he was more or less the main character I was really disappointed back in season 1, even before he turned into a god. xD But apparently he has his fans so I've resigned myself to the fact that he's not dying any time soon.
That fact actually scares me, though, because it means he's more likely to get his powers back and turn into a god character again.
Wow, i see what you mean actually. I think it's the way he strains his gob when he speaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Me
(Is the word gob used in America?)
Oh, just to add:
This is probably the point where Peter gets his action man scar, since he can't heal an' all.
We don't know that Peter will get that scar now, since his future self altered the past leading to his scar.
My question on continuity and copping out: Will Arthur have to deal with the hunger that Peter picked up from Sylar or will there be some weakass excuse as to why he doesn't have to deal with it.
D= What they did to Adam was horrible! Anyway.
Do you think Matt telling Daphne about their future is going to make her avoid that at all costs, or do you think she'll work towards that future anyway?
And what's with Mohinder? Is he some spider thing now or something? Are the people in that icky goo web thing dead or alive?
Didn't the man that was in the web open his eyes when Maya looked at him? I don't remember.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
And about Arthur having Sylar's hunger, i think they'll just dismiss it. It's obvious they're trying to make Arthur look like this whole 'all powerful' man, so giving him Sylar's power would just weaken the whole look.
I like these kinds of episodes! Lines were drawn, people comming together or intersecting (xcept for Hiro and Ando lol) and stupidity kept at a low!
Not bad at all lol that or its just Kristen Bell! Anyone catch the wizard remark? lol (and by anyone i mean VM fans lol)
which episode was that in? I must have somehow missed it :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by *ETERNAL FANTASY*
Good riddance to Maury. I never liked him. Also, Peter's father sounds weird. :P
Every time Sylar mentions being Peter's brother, I feel like there should be a big "DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUH!" sound effect or something. xD
Pretty good episode, though. It's good to see Elle again.
I thought this was the best episode of the season so far.
Decent episode. I really don't like how they sweep everything under the mat when they are done with it. Found some even badder villain than Adam and Maury, the main two from season 2? Ok let's kill them off without much buildup or thought. Ali Larter is signed on for season 3 but we don't feel like continuing her storyline? Let's make her a twin and completely forget about it.
There's more examples but I don't want to go through it all. I was talking about this with Miriel and she came up with the best analogy. The writers of this show are like a bunch of teenagers who like comic books and decide to write their own. They throw in whatever they think is cool and dismiss whatever they don't, without any consideration to character or story development. It makes for interesting TV but it certainly isn't good TV.
Still it must have some kind of appeal because I'm still watching it.
I bet if anyone started watching this show in this season and then went back to season 1 it wouldn't make a lick of sense.
I don't think it even makes for interesting TV a lot of the time. :P I'm just watching it because I'm hoping it gets back to the quality it was in season 1. And honestly, compared to last season, I think they're at least going in the right direction, though not fast enough.
It will never be as good as season 1 unless they get a whole new cast. Season 1 was about ordinary people discovering extraordinary abilities, but nowadays these people are anything but ordinary.
I think they should scrap the current cast and get a whole new one. Maybe Mohinder could go back to being a normal human being and be the only constant. That'd work for me.
Hell, they could keep the other characters, just moving them to minor roles. That would work, too.
Prediction:
(SPOILER)Hiro either undoes everything or saves the day. We see a hint of Sylar not being evil, but I have no idea how that plays out.
There aren't enough episodes to justify a cop-out (Hiro going back in time to undo everything) so my immediate assumptions are nullified.
Of All people you want Mohinder to come back?!!! If he does atleast make him intelligent!Quote:
Originally Posted by Roto13
I do agree that some stories with characters should play out...least until they have a proper ending...i didnt like how Micah was just pushed aside and the death's Nikki and D.L! Actually i just hope the story ends with the downfall of the company...assuming they're completely bad!
Mohinder was there to be a normal human constant. :P He's an important person at the center of the whole evolution thing.
As for his intelligence, well, that's something there wasn't room enough for in the budget when making this show, apparently.
Ok, I finally caught the wizard reference that was mentioned after watching eppy 7 :p
I'll be honest. Still too much same ol', same ol' for me. I want something new and different. Like, I dunno. Sylar takes Claire away for a romantic cruise and she gets knocked up or something. ANYTHING other than the usual "oh I can't die, this sucks." and "omg I'm Arthur Petrelli and I'm big and bad because I can suck your powers out of you!" and "omg I'm a lab rat! *angst*"
=[ It's been the same thing for several episodes now! The thing with Elle was pretty sweet though.
If that happens, not only will I never watch this show again, I will write angry letters like a giant nerd to everyone involved with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
My wife's been going on an on with the HP correlations for a while now, so whenever we watch an episode and there's anything she has to pause it and point out the correlation. Makes for slow Heroes watching. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
That was supposed to be the original premise, but, as Miriel and I have mentioned, the creators succumbed to network pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
blah blah blah flashback episode. Like most of what goes on with this show this was only interesting the first time they did it.
Arthur Patrelli's accent is annoying the crap out of me.
xD must be interesting!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying MulletMy wife's been going on an on with the HP correlations for a while now, so whenever we watch an episode and there's anything she has to pause it and point out the correlation. Makes for slow Heroes watching. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
Anywho, I don't understand how the spirit walk guy got killed. You'd think with his power that he would have seen it coming and gotten them out of there or something.
I'm not sure how those people's powers work. Does he know the future or just whatever he paints? Angela can dream the future but never foresaw Arthur's treatment of her in the flashback.Quote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~xD must be interesting!Quote:
Originally Posted by Flying MulletMy wife's been going on an on with the HP correlations for a while now, so whenever we watch an episode and there's anything she has to pause it and point out the correlation. Makes for slow Heroes watching. xDQuote:
Originally Posted by ~*~Celes~*~
Anywho, I don't understand how the spirit walk guy got killed. You'd think with his power that he would have seen it coming and gotten them out of there or something.
Also Hiro losing his powers? This is getting more and more unusual. My working conclusion is that this is all part of some master plan of Usutu's just as Issac knew that Gabriel kililng him wouldn't accomplish anything.
Alternatively, there may have been nothing Usutu could have done. He may know the future but you still have to defend against somebody with Arthur's powers. That's nigh impossible.
Or maybe the writers don't give a smurf about any sort of continuity and just put that in there so we can see a severed head.
seriously, that scene was a little teensy bit too graphic for my tastes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Worst episode of the season.
It was fine up to the end to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
i dont remember the details but...was Nathan lying all the way is season one when he told Peter their dad commited suicide cause all the talking in the episode pointed otherwise?
Yeah i agree with Pureghetto it was fine up until the end! Poor painters can never catch a break in the heroesverse!
This show is disappointing me. =[
Everything is way too crazy nowadays. And there's so many holes. I hate hate hate how they just drop characters, and there's way too many of them already anyway.
The only really good thing in that episode was getting a proper example of Arthur's powers, and when Linderman healed Angela's brain. Otherwise it was pretty bad, I felt.Quote:
Originally Posted by PureghettoIt was fine up to the end to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
Still better than the worst of Season 2 though, by a good way.
He didn't know what really happened, only Angela, Arthur himself, and possibly the Haitian knew. If I remember correctly, Nathan was telling Peter that their dad had a heart attack because that's what he really thought happened...But I'm not sure =\ I forget...Quote:
Originally Posted by *ETERNAL FANTASY*
Any episode with a lot of Elle pacifies me.
A better episode, but I don't like this whole eclipse business. It's a different direction which is what the show needs but I don't like how these powers can be given and taken away like nothing. Oh well.
Characters I like at the moment: Sylar, Elle, Noah (not even in this episode :mad:), Hiro when he isn't being a douche or a 10 year old, Ando, Nathan.
All the rest of them need to die, especially Claire and every character that was added this season.
I'm having problems figuring out what's happening here. Did Arthur use Maury's powers to mess with Hiro's mind? And why wouldn't he take his powers? Also Wikipedia mentions that both parties (Angela and Arthur) know Claire is the catalyst -- when does Arthur mention this? Was it when he mentioned Kaito's name (but not explicitly stating anything?)
I tried re-watching it but it didn't help =)
Arthur probably knows that Kaito hid Claire with the Bennetts and did so because she was the 'catalyst'.
Lol, you guys are making this show a LOT more complicated then it really is. So far, I have absolutely no problem following it. Of course their questions to be answered. But I'm patient enough to let them continue instead of going into a mental overload.
So far, I think everything fits nicely. Although I have to admit that they get rid of characters WAY TOO quickly, that's about the only problem I see. I like all three season so far. So, it's only a matter of time to see if things are gonna get better or worse.
Promptly followed by the best episode of the season. That was even better than most of Season 1, and would probably have been an absolute classic of TV if it had come in the middle of a disciplined, on-track show.Quote:
Originally Posted by I'm my own MILF
The only real thing that bugged me here was the Hiro stuff, but Hiro's been annoying for a long time anyway. And one thing that confuses me: I thought 9th Wonder was done by Isaac? He died a long time ago, in continuity, and even in the unlikely event that he did comics this far ahead of time AFAIK he died when the Linderman nuking NYC plot was still going on. So how's 9th Wonder got this stuff in it?
Interesting to see Hiro manipulate people in frozen time. I don't recall him doing that before and I was unsure of if it was possible and how it might work. Seems very simple!
Sylar + Elle stuff was awesome. Every Petrelli was awesome. Daphne's finally losing her all-consuming fear. Claire did not annoy me. Would have been better if Hiro and Ando had been out of the episode, partly because their stuff made little sense and partly because theirs was the weakest part, but otherwise that was pretty Grade A.
I liked this episode. I didn't find last week's bad either, though.
Last week's TV guide said the two coexecutive producers were fired. The article stated they were axed after the pair continuously ignored Kring's attempts to steer the show into cleaner storytelling and return to character-driven plots like the first season's, even after the ratings started to plummet. Interesting to see how the rest of the season turns out.
Elle and Sylar should get their own show, where they travel around to people who are just discovering their powers and help them learn to control them. Every once and a while they get a pop in from their 'old friends' Noah Bennet or Senator Nathan Patrelli. The antagonist is played by a resurrected Adam Monroe who is trying to enlist these people into his villains gang in order to take over the world or some other charmingly devilsh plot. Now that would be a show!
Good episode! Team Angela all the way lol! Atleast the stories are comming together!
I still find it funny that Peter's all like..."im trying to prevent the bad future from happening" yet he somehow becomes somewhat responsible for those events that lead up to those "apocalyptic" future episodes lol!
Elle and Sylar better come out alive!
I thought this episdoe was the worst ever. For a start the dialogue is all just plain terrible. I know it was never the BEST writing, but it fit the feel of the whole thing and wasn't bad. I found that every response by any character in this episode was easily predictable to anyone who has watched a 90s action film... in a bad way.
And Sylar needs his memory erased. He has turned into such a little bitch. Even Peter is more badass than him now without power. Sylar smiling and falling in love is just plain wrong.
It seems like whoever wrote this episode knows nothing about the characters and just followed whatever plotline he was told to and used all the tricks in the oldest book.
I have, up until now, never been disapointed with a single moment of Heroes. I thought season 2 was great. This is just
I cannot stand Peter Petrelli! Still on his high horse like last year never happened!
I still haven't recovered from when they killed Adam. I loved that guy, I was so happy when Hiro dug him up but then he goes and dies.
Best characters would have to be Noah and Sylar. Matt's good too, but he doesn't really do much. I thought the spirit walk guy was pretty cool.
I'm impressed with how totally they ballsed up what could have been a great storyline regarding Sylar. Last week's ep was so great there, the changes, the symbolism of Sylar being stripped away leaving Gabriel, all that stuff, and now it's like he's still Sylar just in love.
This whole show is ballsed up. Noah is the only watchable character left.
So I guess their powers are fueled by the yellow sun. :p
The whole thing is probably just photosynthesis or something.
Because people love Hiro and it would hurt ratings. Also, if Arthur took Hiro's powers they would have been stuck in the desert and it would have been harder to write a story for them. That was strictly ratings/writing driven and not character driven.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pureghetto
Next week they introduce Clark Kent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
I'm so-so on this show now. I enjoy watching it in the same way I watch a new X-Men or Spiderman movie: it's entertaining but I'm not expecting a "smart" story.
Oh, and what's really bugging me is Elle. They have NO idea what to do with her character. One week she's a sensitive, unhappy, vulnerable girl who was made into something she doesn't like by forces beyond her control. Last season she electrocuted a man to death basically for the lulz. Then she's all girly-cute with Claire. Then she's trying to make Sylar a killer and destroy that whole empathy thing. Ugh. Then again, who has been consistent here?
I want the Elle electrocuting a man for the lulz. :( I hope she's coming back... and stays at least for a few episodes.
Ok, I'm not entirely sure how i feel about what's going on.
They could have easily just taken away Peter's abilities, stuck Sylar on Arthur's side, and wrote it so that we have to watch all the characters with their separate abilities take down Arthur together. Sylar, who is battling with his inner demons and questioning if he's following the right path or not, sees how Angela's team is sticking together, they're working as a team, and they're supporting each other, whereas Arthur's team is full of power-hungry, manipulative, cold and distant people. He questions which path he wants to follow, thinks about how Elle makes him feel...supported, loved for who he is despite that he's a monster, etc.
Arthur kills Elle because she fails at something, so Sylar joins Angela's forces to take Arthur down. Arthur, of course, has both a great advantage and a great disadvantage. Disadvantage being that he's got so many people against him, including Sylar. Advantage being that he can take powers away. So, he takes away a couple of people's powers, probably everyone but Sylar, and it's just Arthur and his team vs. Sylar. Either Sylar wins as is typical of the "heros vs villains" theme, or a twist causes Arthur to win instead, and either the season ends, along with the show, or if Arthur wins, then a few years later, new heroes show up or something.
*shrugs*
Was that Seth Green or am I losing my mind? xD
That was Seth Green and Breckin Meyer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiffing Cheese
I love those two. I wish I could be impregnated by both of them. Mm, Robot Chicken.
Eh, seriously. Am I the only one wishing a horrible death for Daphne? And I'm sorry, but Matt's "I'm in love with you"? Exactly HOW long have they known each other? :rolleyes2
I also found Daphne quite annoying recently, not to mention the horrible acting she brings to the table.
Matt saw the future, thought it was awesome, believed it was destiny, and has since discovered that he quite likes Daphne IRL as well. I don't see what the big deal there is. Plus she's super-cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spiffing Cheese
Daphne and her bird like movements are annoying as smurf.
i like daphne...shes cute lol
Claire is annoying! and how the hell do they keep bringing Maya and (SPOILER)kill of Elle! that and Sylar's character has just been butchered im mean reallly!!?
not cool heroes not cool...i guess the rest of the episode was ok...
Why does Sylar have a need to off Elle? He already has her power. He didn't ever really murder innocents; he just took powers from people.
Yeah if I didn't love Parkman and Daphne I'd just about be done with Heroes after that epic
I agree that Sylar's tired now. (SPOILER)When he attacked Elle, I just rolled my eyes and groaned. I'm tired of them not knowing what to do with him and they keep flip-flopping him around with different personalities and agendas.
That last episode was horrible and seemed riduculously unrealistic. Bennet slit Sylar's throat and Claire died, but as soon as the eclipse ended they came back to life!? I thought the eclipse just temporarily shut off their powers so if they died before the eclise ended they should be dead right, and why didn't Bennet just took care of both Sylar and Elle when he qwas sniping them. It seems to be going downhill fast and why are they continuing to flip flop Sylar's personality whenever someone talks about him he just suddenly changes upa dn I thought that for a girl with constant electical build up in her body, her hair would always be sticking up like Freakazoid and also when did Maya come back out of that cocoon that was weird. This is just a horrible mess!
Hey, this show is great. I just started watching it a couple of days ago and I'm totally hooked. I'm on Episode 5 atm, so I'm not going to read this spoilerific thread just yet!
Claire's storyline is the most interesting so far, or rather the most entertaining. :D I'd like that power! Niki is pretty cool too, Ali Larter is awesome. Not so much a fan of the Mohinter storyline, but I'm sensing it's probably the most important one for the plot of the show.
What I really like about this show though, is how they show how people deal with finding out they have a superpower, and how they use it in the beginning. :D It's fun when people don't know what they're doing.
You should probably just stop watching the show after finishing the first season. But I guess you're not going to read that, either!
Roto told me that too. :( What are the odds you guys are full of it? I hope you are!
We're not. Pretend the show got FOX'd and there's only one season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Levian
I'm on like.. the fourth or fifth episode of season three now. It's not that bad of a show but it could be less predictable.
Is it sad that I recognize almost every actor from a different television show?
PS. more weevil/veronica and less peter "the left side of my face is paralyzed in this stupid expression" petrelli
I just caught a little glimpse of the last episode. Hiro's backgorund was done well and his mother was sweet, but I had to turn it when I saw Sylar.
There were some quality Sylar moments sprinkled throughout the last episode. Regardless of what they do with the character, the actor is top notch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Depression Moon
yknow what i find funny. i read posts complaining about the characters in this show (eg i dont like where the matt/daphe story is going) but we all know there is no point complaining, cos everyone seems to be completely changing what theyre doing every 2 episodes
So true!Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig
I think this show is trying to right itself. It has a long way to go but I see the recent episodes as an attempt to undo a lot of stuff that was done this season. Make Sylar a killer again, kill off Arthur, make Sylar not their son, etc. However it is all happening too fast and it just comes off as a bad soap opera. The catalyst stuff was really stupid and didn't make much sense so I'm glad that's over.
I think the story arc about giving people abilities is good but I don't like the idea that you can just inject someone and they get the ability to manipulate time. They play around too much with time in this one.
Weevil's actor is in this show?! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunny
He played Jesse, the sound guy who escaped from Level 5 and who Peter was trapped in for a short time. Sylar killed him.
Great Saw-like Sylar moments tonight. I hope they leave Sylar like he is right now as a psycho killer. He can and should be the main villain of the show.
It really looks like they are trying to undo a lot of what was done this season. I like that but it makes for some awkward moments. These last two episodes have been better than the crap from the rest of the season. The next story arc looks promising. I've always liked Nathan as naiive villain type who thinks he's doing the right thing but is misinformed.
My favorite episode of the season. I have hope for further episodes. With them hunting down people with powers, I hope we get some individual stories that break away from the main cast every so often.
Worf is the President. This makes me happy. I expect more from him in the future.
fugatives looks promising!
Liked the Claire-Sylar-HRG-Meredith-Angela Segment!
Daphne's still cute
Bryan Fuller returns episodes 19-ish (hoary for that :( for PD)
Shame that atleast one (or sometimes both) of the Petrelli bros have to so damn unlikeable really Nathan really? His descent was really.....sudden lol
I do agree with Del though he works better as a douche thats misinformed...shame though!
But they never explained how the future hero saw came to be...
The show will be back in January. I have no inside sources but I am 100% sure that Sylar is not gone for good. He's one of the most popular characters and he'll be back. He has Claire's power and each of them have survived much worse than a burning building.
My thoughts exactly. Sylar will be back in an OMG! moment of some sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
As for the series, I feel like they've basically run a 360 degree circle and are back at the end of season two (SPOILER)with the reinstatement of Peter's abilities and can pretend that season three didn't happen.
Claire's Mama ain't dead either is she since she has fire powers, she must obviously be impervious to it and that other fire guy. Another question I have is why we never got see that black girl again you know who was with that little boy that could speak to computers like Braniac. She was interesting. Why can't the show give a black guy a significant role all we had was a shallow villain.
She may be impervious to fire, but I'm not so sure she's impervious to a building collapsing on top of her.
The president is black, maybe he will have a big role. But I do think it's kind of messed up how they swept some of the minority characters under the rug.
The Haitian is the only non-Asian minority character on the show after three seasons that has not been written off or killed.
The writers have a poor track record when it comes to minority characters. Every Hispanic character on the show has been killed by Sylar: Isaac, Alejandro, Maya, and Jesse. Maya was revived at the end of Season 2 only to be used as a sex object and damsel-in-distress in Season 3. Every black character on the show, with the exception of The Haitian, has been killed, written off, or cast as stereotypical extras like thugs and uncivilized people.
I am sure that the writers don't do this intentionally:
- Simone Deveaux, in the first season, was supposed to become involved with The Company in light of her heritage.
- DL Hawkins, in the first season, was originally meant to be prosecuted by Nathan Petrelli - wrongfully convicted, he swears vengence on the man who sent him to prison. This would have established Nathan as more of a morally ambiguous character because DL was actually innocent of the crime of which he was accused.
- Maya Herrera, in the second season, was originally meant to learn how to embrace her powers and finds a way to absorb the virus from others in the same way that Alejandro absorbed the effects of her ability from others.
- Monica Dawson, in the second season, was originally meant to be pitted against Benjamin Knox. She, like Hiro, was a main character of the comic 9th Wonders! as a vigilante under the name of St. Joan.
- Micah Sanders, in the second season, was originally meant to aid Monica Dawson in vigilante hunting. I think that it would have been cool if they got a brief story arc about going after the thugs who tried to leave Monica in a burning building resulting in Niki's death - who, also, was originally meant to survive the fire at the cost of regressing back into the Jessica personality or a new personality.
So, as you can see, these characters really were not able to build much of a fanbase due to internal or external events. I just find it annoying that we still have the same regular characters over three seasons and a rotating minority cast every season that seemingly gets thrown out for various reasons.
Why were those storylines scrapped?
No one really knows. Simone Deveaux was an unpopular character in the run of first season because her character did not really do much as a woman without abilities in the middle of a love triangle. Also, they usually kill or write off any female involved in a romantic relationship on the show, anyway. Love never lasts on some shows.
I have no idea why the DL Hawkins vs. Nathan Petrelli storyline was scrapped. Maybe it was too convoluted? It was meant to get DL, Niki, and Micah involved with the other characters right from the start.
Monica Dawson, Micah Sanders, and Maya Herrera were all victims of the Writers' Strike. Volume 3, I think, was called Exodus and that was the point where those three would have a much larger role on the show with their own respective story arcs.
Hannah has probably told you that the original concept of the show was to feature an ensemble cast with some recurring elements and characters; likely, The Company, its founders, and the descendents were always meant to have a place on the show, but that was scrapped around the time when they cast Zachary Quinto as Sylar and decided to succumb to network pressure!