Which main villian had the best final moments?
I personally liked Sin's giant pyrefly explosion, or Kefka shaking a few times and disolving.
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Which main villian had the best final moments?
I personally liked Sin's giant pyrefly explosion, or Kefka shaking a few times and disolving.
Usually the exhaustion I feel upon beating the boss kind of prevents me from remembering what their demise was like.
The end comes...beyond chaos.
(SPOILER)actually Kefka said that before casting Ultima iirc, but either way, he had my favourite demise I think.
First for Kuja!
Ulty n.n
Her last word was "And..."
I said Kefka, because he's the only one I can remember properly
Yes, I loved that. Her whole speech was pretty good, but the open ending to it tickles my imagination.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
In my opinion, Ultimecia had the best exit for a main villain because she was able to cause a time loop in her ominous final scene.
The way that she passed her powers onto Edea at the end of the game showed that the power of a Sorceress is fearsome and cannot be controlled even by the heroes; furthermore, a sense of foreboding still remains after the defeat of the final villain and that is rarely seen in Final Fantasy games as they typically favor an absolute and hopeful ending.
I agree that X's Sin was the most enjoyable to watch as the FMV is beautiful. I was thinking about X-2's but I'm trying to think who was the primary villain. My head's saying the people of Spira, but heart says it's wrong.
That would be Kuja (for me). At the end he was the one who sacrficed his own life to save the main characters and then he died as a good guy.
I'm surprised Kuja isn't winning. IX had my favorite ending, and Kuja was a large part of what made it so awesome. I will give a little credit to Ultimecia, though. Not because of anything she did, I just thought it was kind of awesome that the party pwned her without even letting her finish her cliche villain speech (Although I kept reloading and trying to hold out without killing her for as long as I could so I could see "the rest" of her speech. Finally decided screw it, looked it up online, and found out that actually was as far as she gets no matter what -.- ).
In this case you should be saying Garland/Chaos since he did the exact same thing except whereas in VIII you learn that the battle against Ultemacia is inevitable you are also rewarded with one of the happier ending's in the series cause the heroes win and life returns to normal. Sure you start a time loop but it has an end to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roogle
Whereas in FF1, you're party gets flown back into the past with their powers and memory wiped by Chaos, only so they can kill Garland and start the whole loop again. You're whole damn party is fated to battle a never ending battle against Chaos and the Elemental Lords for all eternity. :cool:
Well she spoke after the battle, just before she gave her powers to Edea. Something like "I can't disappear yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jessweeee♪
From what I remember, after the defeat of Chaos the party were sent back to the future, and it was as if nothing had ever happened. Even though the party remembered the events of the game, everyone else didn't, even Garland didn't, going back to the time when he was a good knight before he was corrupted by Chaos. So yeah, the main party did kind of have a crappy ending.Quote:
Whereas in FF1, you're party gets flown back into the past with their powers and memory wiped by Chaos, only so they can kill Garland and start the whole loop again. You're whole damn party is fated to battle a never ending battle against Chaos and the Elemental Lords for all eternity. :cool:"
As for the demise of a villain, my favourite has got to be Kuja's. I loved it when he turned good at the end, nothing beats a villain who redeems himself.
Um... They broke the circle. That's what the game said. By going back in time, they killed the four elemental fiends and Chaos. Then they came back to the future. Everyone else knew nothing of it, since the fiends never appeared and Garland never got back in time and turned into Chaos by the fiends. It was a happy ending. Just without applause. It was more like a silent victory, but a victory nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf KannoIn this case you should be saying Garland/Chaos since he did the exact same thing except whereas in VIII you learn that the battle against Ultemacia is inevitable you are also rewarded with one of the happier ending's in the series cause the heroes win and life returns to normal. Sure you start a time loop but it has an end to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roogle
Whereas in FF1, you're party gets flown back into the past with their powers and memory wiped by Chaos, only so they can kill Garland and start the whole loop again. You're whole damn party is fated to battle a never ending battle against Chaos and the Elemental Lords for all eternity. :cool:
Kuja. For both the end of the fight (Ultima-ing your party), and his final scene in the Iifa Tree. The former was awesome (in a "You friggin' bastard" sort of way). And the later, with his redemption, was touching.
But technically her last word is still "And..." as the scene where she says the dissaperaing line she is different mentally, so the one you fight ends with "And..."Quote:
Originally Posted by James Leopold
That makes no difference. Her last line is in the orphanage. It is after the battle, she is still speaking, therefore her last word isn't "And".Quote:
Originally Posted by MJN SEIFERBut technically her last word is still "And..." as the scene where she says the dissaperaing line she is different mentally, so the one you fight ends with "And..."Quote:
Originally Posted by James Leopold
To respond to the objective of this thread; Ultimecia becomes defeated and she then exits the scene. Therefore, the "And..." was her final line in terms of the exit event. However, her saying "I can't disappear yet..." and giving powers to Matron already took place (in beginning of the story) before the party went to see Ultimecia at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by James LeopoldThat makes no difference. Her last line is in the orphanage. It is after the battle, she is still speaking, therefore her last word isn't "And".Quote:
Originally Posted by MJN SEIFERBut technically her last word is still "And..." as the scene where she says the dissaperaing line she is different mentally, so the one you fight ends with "And..."Quote:
Originally Posted by James Leopold
He didn't try to sacrifice himself to save anybody he used Ultima in hopes of destroying all existence. He was just going to lie in the tree and die, but Zidane didn't feel that it was right.Quote:
Originally Posted by cetra1
Well technically that was years before the battle >.>Quote:
Originally Posted by James LeopoldThat makes no difference. Her last line is in the orphanage. It is after the battle, she is still speaking, therefore her last word isn't "And".Quote:
Originally Posted by MJN SEIFERBut technically her last word is still "And..." as the scene where she says the dissaperaing line she is different mentally, so the one you fight ends with "And..."Quote:
Originally Posted by James Leopold
EDIT:
Oh nevermind someone already said that.
...and even if it wasn't, I'd still vote her xD
he obliterated it for me three friggen times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall banana
i had to go with kuja, with FF9 being my favorite in the series.
And sins explosion was just beautiful lol
*Checks Note* Well I'll be damned, you're right. Its what I get for mouthing off on a game I haven't played in awhile. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by The White Wizard of FynnUm... They broke the circle. That's what the game said. By going back in time, they killed the four elemental fiends and Chaos. Then they came back to the future. Everyone else knew nothing of it, since the fiends never appeared and Garland never got back in time and turned into Chaos by the fiends. It was a happy ending. Just without applause. It was more like a silent victory, but a victory nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf KannoIn this case you should be saying Garland/Chaos since he did the exact same thing except whereas in VIII you learn that the battle against Ultemacia is inevitable you are also rewarded with one of the happier ending's in the series cause the heroes win and life returns to normal. Sure you start a time loop but it has an end to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roogle
Whereas in FF1, you're party gets flown back into the past with their powers and memory wiped by Chaos, only so they can kill Garland and start the whole loop again. You're whole damn party is fated to battle a never ending battle against Chaos and the Elemental Lords for all eternity. :cool:
Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to say before, so thanks for explaining it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Serapy
I think s/he means when he teleported the team away from Necron at the end, had he not done that Zidane and the others would have died. Although I'm not sure if that's a sacrafice as to be one it would have had to have put himself in a risk, but it was a heroric act nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Depression Moon
That's it. And then Zidane hears his voice and decides to save Kuja.Quote:
Originally Posted by MJN SEIFER
I gotta admit, '...and...' is an epic way to end, but my vote has to go to that final showdown with Kuja and its aftermath.
>>> The only one i can remember is Sephiroth (One Wingel Angel)disolving in a crazy purple/pink clouded sky..