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Instead of sob stories, the thread title is what should be said when Aeris dies in FF7.
What character's death impacted you the most in any Final Fantasy (doesn't have to be a playable character)? Was there any character you were almost happy you were finally rid of? Are there other characters you'd prefer to have died instead?
As for which death impacted me the most, it's hard to say, since I don't really think any of them did.
I was happy to be rid of Aeris.
I wish Yuna would have died, despite the guardians' efforts to save her. I think the element of despair that would have come over the rest of the party would have had a much more significant emotional impact on the player instead of Tidus disappearing and having a lousy knockoff game expand upon that. If Yuna died, the abomination that is X-2 would not exist. :p
All the dead people lying around after operation Mi'hen in X, only to find a traumatised (forgothisname) who says (forgothisnametoo) died in a not so pleasant way. That was some sad impacting stuff.
edit: also in X, (SPOILER)when you see Auron's younger version trying to avenge Jecht and Braska by facing Yunalesca. Those cutscenes were quite heavy aswell.
I'm always saddened by the death of Zeza in FFV. I know you barely know the character before he dies, but it's kinda sad seeing him sacrifice himself in front of his old comrade, Galuf. I was quite happy to be rid of Edward for a brief period of time actually. Oh and when Selphie almost perishes in the Missile Base. Her survival was disappointing.
I liked Aeris, and so her dying sucked. I still like using her whenever I'm playing through the game, even though I know she's gonna die.
My heart always goes out to Josef in FFII. He's a bald old man with a moustache, lives for his little girl, obliterates monsters with his bare hands, and wears a poncho; naturally, such an awesome guy is taken away from us entirely too soon. At least he dies holding up a giant boulder that's about to crush the entire party, which is an appropriately badass way to go out.
Speaking of grizzled badasses, there's also Galuf in FFV. Seeing the Lord of Darkness knock around his only granddaughter gets him so riled that he stands up and trudges into the same Sith lightning pinning down the rest of the party, knowing full well that it'll shatter one of the elemental crystals--which are, you know, kind of important. Then he absorbs the forcefield surrounding Klulu and goes Super Saiyan or something, taking on Exdeath and completely shrugging off spells like Holy and Meteor, even after his HP falls past zero. When Exdeath expresses his confusion, he just assures him, "I can't die yet!" When Exdeath claims rage and hate alone can't defeat him, he simply replies, "This is not...mere rage or hate!"
He finally dies before he can say what it is, but taking that secret with him just makes his demise that much more bittersweet.
I'd like to take this time, to pour one out for my dead homie, General Leo from Final Fantasy 6. You will be missed.
As for Galuf, I thought his death was too amusing to be sad.
http://www.ffcompendium.com/misc/galufdeath.jpg
It's like, "No don't die right now! Not right now, Grandpa! Maybe later after you finish your train of thought."
I was mad when Aeris died because she was one of my best characters. Also when Lupin and one of the twins died, that wasn't really necessary.
Well that's your fault for leveling up the worst character in the game! Ok, maybe second worst (Cait Sith's limit is pretty terrible).
Just move her Materia combination's over to a different character. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
Also, Galuf. Though really, so many other games have had much more dramatic and deep character deaths. FF isn't really the best place to look for those. :p
No, it would exist. Only instead we'd have Wakka and Keepa from the Aurochs changing into fruity costumes instead of Yuna and Rikku...Quote:
Originally Posted by Momiji
Galuf's death is pretty impressive, although it seems too much like Tellah's death to be really epic.
FFIV was revolutionary in carrying out plot events in the context of fixed battles, often with the computer controlling both parties. But FFV took that one step further by using the battle system and blatantly breaking its established rules: that is, when someone's HP hit zero, they go down. They always go down. But not Galuf. "Why? How?!" you wonder.
And, of course, that's the idea.
General Leo. Why did he have to die? :(
Aeris's death did not bother me in the least. It did surprise me a bit though.
I wished Yuna would die too. She annoyed me to no end -.-
Zack in Crisis Core - probably the most emotional moment in any Final Fantasy game, even knowing that it is going to happen from the start. It was done incredibly well, as you manage to get so attached to him throughout the game.
Yuna seems to have a strong hate-following. I must concur.
I agree that other games have done better dramatic deaths. Though this thread is also to tell about which FF characters you wish would have died instead.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCracker
I don't know why but I always found it really easy to get Aeris to level compared to other characters which kinda makes sense you'd have her up in the party alongside Cloud and most likely Barrett for most of the early part of the game then BAM she's gone it was designed so she'd have an emotional impact I think and make players think "wtf I just worked so hard to get her so good and now...OK NOW I WANNA KILL SEPHIROTH!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
I don't know about people dying in FF games, I will say the Garden to Garden battle in FFVIII when Squall gives his speech to the weary, defeated SeeD and SeeD Cadets in Balamb Garden before they launch one of the most kick ass counter assaults in the history of FF games was pretty damn good at choking me up because by that point I had found my muse in the game's storyline.
Also in FFIX when you're in Burmecia and get your asses handed to you and Freya fails to protect her people that is quite great along with the death of Brahnne. Brahnne is the most hatefully ugly FF character I have ever seen, heck Quina looks better! but her death affects Garnet so deeply and that is quite moving the other great key moments are when the silver dragons are about to swamp you and Beatrix saves the day with the worlds Airship fleets rising out of the super thick mist to take up the fight to buy you time. We cannot mention this title without mentioning the whole blackmage, genome, kuja, vivi, zidane, garland storyline either though.
FFX was a pretty emotional game I remember when I saw Tidus and the others skating the chains in the Bevelle I felt like cheering, when they "failed" and Yuna throws herself off the temple then I felt like "Aww man!" not to mention the large number of pointless, needless deaths in the game and the entire "your own father wants it to be you to kill him." thing.
I think if I could have killed off any FF character so far in the games I played I would have killed off Barett in FFVII not because he sucked or anything he was one of the best but because I feel that Aeris dying wasn't enough though the party loses someone special sometimes players don't get Yuffie or Vincent until way after this fact and so why would those 2 be sad about her death?
Cid from FFVI is still one of my favorites, mostly because you can actually save him though. The fact the player can blame himself for not saving the old coot sorta oversteps the boundaries of simple gameplay and storytelling to add a greater deal of emotional merit to the experience overall. You can actually understand Celes' despair and understand the most powerful moment in that game. He was never a major character but I find it quite amazing to see such a minor character get quickly elevated to one of the more memorable moments in the story.
If I could kill a character? Yuna or Yuffie.
Yuffie wasn't that bad. Yeah, she steals your materia, but that was probably the most entertaining sidequest in the whole game.
Cait Sith No. 1. :kaoclove:
I take it back, FF IX's Black Mages Dying by the hands of the Black Watlz #3 was truly epic. And you also make an excelent point Raist.
The entirety of FF VIII's cast needs to die.
Except Rinoa. She just needs her ability to speak words removed, hogtied and left in my room...
The one that impacted me most was Cid in VI (well the events that followed impacted me most, not the death itself). That being said it sucks when we let him live. I was glad when Seymour (finally) died. He was like an unfunny Ultros
Cait Sith was entertaining. And cuddly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Banana
I can agree with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoCracker
Blank in FFIX was a big deal to me, because even that early in the game, he was clearly an awesome character, both in design and personality. And it was really played straight, like any other final sacrifice you'd find in an RPG. So naturally, I was overjoyed that, for once, all his friends actually pursue the issue and say, "No, we're totally bringing that guy back."
Good call on Blank! It's impressive how effectful they made his petrification at that early stage.
Thinking back to FF7, I realized that I was more caught up in Shera's non-death than Aeris's actual death.
Also, I'm surprised only one person has mentioned Selphie so far in this thread.
Tidus :(
Well before I played FFX-2, anyway. Now it's like, "oh no big deal he comes back and everything's all peachy keen." But it was very sad at the time.
Setzer I wouldn't have minded losing.
How can you hate Setzer? :Eek:
I wasn't really affected about Aeris, because someone spoiled it for me on this site a while agao displaying her death in their signature.
There's been more than I realized and I'll mark spoilers just in case of spoiling it for someone else.
[SPOILER] Vivi in IX was quirte emotional he knew that sometime he was going to die, but behind the music in the last cutscenes and having who you thought was Vivi only to be his children was quite heartening[SPOILER]
(SPOILER)Tellah in IV had some impact on me as well. He was a likeable character that was angered by his daughter's death that was cuased by the almighty Golbez. Despite him knowing he didn't have the stamina to cast Meteo he did it anyway to avenge his daughter's death, but sadly his death was in vain as Golbez was still alive after the attack and that had to hurt
(SPOILER) X had a lot of involvement with death probably dealth with the most of of any others since the world of Spira was constantly reminded of the terrible woes of losing a loved one for about a 1000 years straight. It was beautiful yet errifying to see like Tidus desacribed to see Yuna performing the sending to the victims of Sin's wrath.
(SPOILER) I had just recently encountred the beginning of VI when the world is in ruin and I found cid's death to be heartening imagining what it could have been like waking in a destroyed world on a deserted island with only one other human being a bird and some hundreds of monsters that are dying themselves. I wasn't quite sure how long Celes was with Cid after she woke up, but she had to be terribly afraid when he had died. Oh how I wish never to experience anything even remotely similar to that
It's hard to say which impacted me the most, but I guess if I have to choose it's going to be (SPOILER) Vivi
(SPOILER)Tidus was never alive as a dream he was just a figment of the party's imagination
I have to say overall Tidus. More than white text or flailing of the arms can convey, the fact that you see the pain in Yuna's face itself with her expression just makes it hit that much harder, her tripping and falling trying to get to him just makes it like a torture scene it's just so emotional. Although I'm sure some people consider it to be a torture scene for other reasons....
Pre-facial expressions, the hardest hitting might be Shadow, his whole backstory, haunted nightmares, and ordeal in the game is just so smurfed up. The dark nature of the original japanese dialogue also makes it a really hard hitting and eerie experience.
I don't know if I was ever happy to see an FF character go... I remember wishing Quina bit the bullet a couple times when you lose her just because I thought she was so annoying the first time I played it.
As far as characters I hated and wanted to die? Hmm, well, it's a tie between Squall and Rikku from X-2. Squall is apathetic and rude, but Rikku was plain annoying to me in X-2. The way she would say "Yunie!" really got on my nerves quickly.
First death that impacted me? It was Polom and Porom in IV. I was a little choked up when I watched their sacrifice. (SPOILER)I didn't know that they would have the petrify removed when the Giant was awoken. I've only started playing VII for the first time recently, so I don't have much to say about Aeris' death. The other big one was General Leo. I was very unhappy that he was so easily killed by Kefka.
I was actually sad when Brahne died, not for Brahne but for Garnet.
Feel like FFVIII should have had a main character (from the main 6) death. First time i played it i didn't see the after the credits bit and i thought Squall had died, I think maybe that gives the story a bit more depth.
I was sad that Raine died, there was something lovable about her
Wakka's death always impacted me pretty deeply.
Well, the fact that he didn't.
I admit it- Aeris(th). The music did it, mainly, as well as her mouth dropping open lifelessly. A close second is Anna in FF4- the sprites can't depict sadness too well, but the music gave it an Aeris-like affect.