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I've seen some great art here from various people and I enjoy looking at it. But it got me curious, clearly people here put a lot of work into their art and it shows, what is it about art that you guys enjoy? (viewing it and making your own).
I love fantasy art and anime, so for me art is seeing beauty and magic that doesn't exist any where else. The learning curve is exciting aswell, seeing your stick figures become more realistic and thinking about what you can even better next time is great.
Art is one of the most important things in the world. It's what keeps people happy and sane. It allows us to alleviate ourselves from frustration and sadness.
My particular favorite forms of art would be literature, video games, and film.
I share the same sentiments! This is what I love a lot as well. As you can tell from my avatar and sig, I love creating anime artwork. I've always been a fan of the style [even though I don't like most anime], but beyond that I think what I enjoy most is creating something I really like as well as constantly testing my skill and pushing it to new limits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gullick
Unlike some things, there are no restrictions in art. You're free to do whatever you want creatively so long as you can imagine it. Art comes in many forms though something could also subjectively be art. Art is black and white. Art is color. Art can be beautiful. Art can move. Art can shape. Art IS shape. Art is motion. Art is emotion. Art is style. And most importantly, you can tell a lot about what goes on in a person's subconscious mind by seeing how they express themselves artistically. And that's what I like about art.
What utopia do you live in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
Seriously. The very definition of art is restriction.Quote:
Originally Posted by NecronopticousWhat utopia do you live in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
I like art that is aesthetically pleasing, technically proficient, and not different or unique for the sake of being different or unique.
In other words, I think a good deal of modern art is trash.
Hm, could you be more specific with "modern art"? This can be a pretty broad category. I'm just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
Good Modern Art:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...nsky_tr_ln.jpg
Bad Modern 'Art':
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...3bd7d2b148.jpg
It's a head... with a star spangled ice cream cone...? That, right there, is an example of an artist trying to be different for the sake of being different. And it's smurfing stupid. This is what happens when an artist believes there are no restrictions to his craft.
In the Kandinsky example every shape and every color is the way it is for a reason. If you changed one single aspect of that painting you would destroy it. There is literally an infinite number of ways you could change that sculpture, though, and none of them would make it worse. That is the definition of bad art.
art - definition of art by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tineSeriously. The very definition of art is restriction.Quote:
Originally Posted by NecronopticousWhat utopia do you live in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
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I don't think he meant the actual literal definition of art. I'm pretty sure he just meant that restriction is a defining principle.
I'm not even going to read those definitions. We don't call a five years old's finger paintings art. I know darn well what art is and isn't and it most certainly is not 'do whatever you want'. I beg anyone who thinks otherwise to never, ever take up an artistic endeavor, lest you sculpt a head with a star spangled ice cream cone. It's your mindset that will ensure that the Michelangelos, the Beethovens, and the Shakespeares of today will die in obscurity while idiots like banksy get to do 'whatever they want'. And get rich off of it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Depression Moonart - definition of art by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tineSeriously. The very definition of art is restriction.Quote:
Originally Posted by NecronopticousWhat utopia do you live in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
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When an artwork has no depth it should rightly be called out as shallow.
nik0tine, even your example of "good" modern art is trash in my opinion. I just don't like or understand most modern art.
I kind of art I like best is either beautiful or moving or both.
Fair enough. This artist does have a history of being not liked, I guess. I do believe the Nazis went as far to burn his work for being 'degenerate' in the second world war. However, I don't think it is disputable that this painting is at least better than that stupid star spangled ice cream cone.Quote:
nik0tine, even your example of "good" modern art is trash in my opinion. I just don't like or understand most modern art.
However, isn't Alexander McQueens work a prime example of modern art? I guess you were careful to say 'most' modern art.
This is really what to look for, imo. I am a little surprised that you don't find the Kandinsky painting to be at least pretty, though.Quote:
I kind of art I like best is either beautiful or moving or both.
Well, I don't think I'd go far enough to call it "trash", but I do understand what she means. I don't really quite understand most modern art I've seen myself. Sometimes I feel like other people see things in it that I'm just plain not capable of seeing [and it feels a little depressing because I end up feeling shallow somehow because of it]. However, even though I don't understand that painting, I think it's clearly not "ridiculous" or anything. And as you said it's by far towering in superior quality to that silly statue head thing. The only reason why I don't think I connect well with it is because those colours aren't exactly my favourite [yellows/oranges]. Sometimes I feel like I'm shallow because the only art I look to is art of "pretty" things, haha. Things like beautiful photography or paintings of outdoor scenery, beautiful cities, beautiful people and things, etc. I also think this extends to anime art since I think it can be quite mature and serious, but that's just me. This is just my personal taste though. One thing I really enjoy is anything constructed with a nice look and colour palette. I even consider really nice forum skins, or skins/themes for programs to be considered art as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
Oh my god no no no no no no no NO. The modern period ended years before his career even started leave him alone
edit: Uh, @ nik.
Art is one of our methods for trying to understand the universe, and to express ourselves within it. Art is a defining characteristic of intelligence, in my eyes. At the least, art should be something aesthetically pleasing. At its utmost, it provides a perspective and an understanding for people. Sometimes it also serves a very pragmatic purpose, such as a building or metro system.
I don't know if I could really choose some art I love more than others, though I have a fondness for architecture. It just feels that if, for instance, I name music, I overlook literature.
I do have a fondness for architecture though.
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...skayaKL-mm.jpg
And what I really love is when an art movement has impact in many media forms. Art Deco comes to mind;
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Hall_-_001.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...door_sedan.jpg
http://popsci.typepad.com/photos/unc...07/08/22/1.jpg
The one thing I really love about BioShock is how it uses Art Deco and how much it adds to the game. I'm hard pressed to think of a better setting; the best I can manage is an alternative equivalent, basically an art movement which espouses technology, efficiency, etc. I do so wish games would take their art direction cues from other sources. There is a distinct absence of, say, Socialist Realism as an art style.
I'm not sure what the actual definition of modern art is (I dropped out of my art history classes in college, couldn't stay awake!) but my idea of modern art is basically anything that has splotches or random blocks of shapes with no real representation of anything. McQueen's haute couture work is fantastical and extravagant and reminds me of garments you'd see worn be Queens and Kings in another world. That's why I like it. The example you posted to me are just lines and shapes, I really have no clue what it's supposed to be. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by nik0tine
I'm not really sure, but I believe that painting is just meant to be something interesting to look at. I personally don't get much out of it, but I can easily see a lot of people finding that painting interesting. Some people like to stare at things and look at little details, even if they seem random. I used to do this a lot when I was a kid with the ceiling in my room, and try to make shapes/faces/objects/etc. out of it, I'd always see something different. I don't think it's quite the exact same with this painting, but I'm sure someone could just look at it for long periods of time and be entertained by everything in it. Is that painting done directly on canvas, nik0tine? I'm sadly rusty on my art history knowledge, but I'd assume it was. If so, then what's interesting about this picture is how everything is layered out, it can seem random to many people but you can tell that there was actual planning and thought put into it.
Again, it's really not my kind of painting, but I can still see where someone would hold a lot of value to it. I also think there's no question that this painting looks a hell of a lot more interesting than that statue head thing with the ice cream cone.
I think that amongst all the nihilistic sentiments of meaningless, the fact that a musical composition, a painting, a novel, a sculpture, the fact that art can stir up something intangible and undefinable called emotion in my breast
is pretty kewl
The one in my head where my art truly comes alive. I realize there are rules against what you can do in art and what you can't do, but it's not like you still can't do them anyway. I was watching Tosh.0 and there was a guy on there known for taking risque photos of nude women in public places. He went to the Metropolitan Museum and took photos of women who stripped for him. They told him to get out, but he still took the picture. As long as you can think it you can do it. The only true restriction to art is what you prohibit yourself from doing. :shiny:Quote:
Originally Posted by NecronopticousWhat utopia do you live in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
She.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khalin
Oh, sorry. I thought nik0tine was male.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
Oh wait, nevermind. My b. I thought you were referring to what I said. I'm so used to people calling women "he" on this site it's ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by KhalinOh, sorry. I thought nik0tine was male.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
Oh haha. Actually I assume most people are straight males unless they assume otherwise. However, I used to think that Momiji was female because they only used a bunch of cute anime girl avatars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
This is my idea of modern art, too and I also do not know the technical definition of 'modern art'. Scrumpleberry seems pretty certain that anything created nowadays is not modern art, though, so I'll just believe her.Quote:
I'm not sure what the actual definition of modern art is (I dropped out of my art history classes in college, couldn't stay awake!) but my idea of modern art is basically anything that has splotches or random blocks of shapes with no real representation of anything.
I think Khalin is right when he says that the painting doesn't mean anything specific. Art doesn't have to express a specific message though. This is most strongly evidenced by music, especially instrumental music, which holds no literal meaning at all.
Honestly, I do not know. It was not made with a computer, if that is what you are asking. I don't really know anything technical about the visual arts at all.Quote:
Is that painting done directly on canvas, nik0tine?
This is true. There is really only one rule in art and that is the rule of good taste. However, having no restriction in your art leads to art made in poor taste more often than not. Rules are made to be broken, especially in art, but if you don't break them intelligently it will be a disaster. Most artists I know personally break rules because they are too lazy to learn them and then they hide behind the 'It's art I can do whatever I want!' nonsense when you tell them what they made sucks.Quote:
The one in my head where my art truly comes alive. I realize there are rules against what you can do in art and what you can't do, but it's not like you still can't do them anyway.
And yeah, just for the record, I am a guy. :p
Yeah I don't know what that drivel is called, because actual Modern art ended in like the 60s or 70s iirc. And it contained stuff that's actually good, like Andy Worhol's stuff.
I really love art and I'm fairly interested in art history, or at least some of it. I like photography the most, but I'm love impressionist art. It looks like the brushstrokes are made of tiny hints of a picture that make something come together. When I took college-level art, I did my portfolio is a semi-impressionistic style.
http://www.modern-impressionist.com/..._paintings.jpg
I think that good art should almost be like a language on its own. It should communicate its ideas, or lack thereof, in a way that words could never accurately convey.
Take, for example, the Kandinsky piece. We're all taken in or confused by it, but we're not sure why. We can't put it into words, but we know that by looking at it we get some feeling from it. I think that's truly skillful.
Yer, this would be the core of it for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Took the Red Pill