Xenosaga Battles

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05-30-2010, 12:35 AM
sir helix

Xenosaga Battles

after a good couple years iv finally picked episode 1 back up and still got my ass handed to me by the tiamat, sense then iv started over and have deleted my files to episodes II and III, and so i wonder which battle system is the best.

E I entroduced a ground breaking and hardcore lvl complex system of combat.

E II gave us a slow as hell wait period and double attacks that kicked as, to bad all charecters shared a boost gauge. and took away out freedom to go gundom style in battle at will. But it did give us Jin.

E III gave rpg fans a classic feel along with a break system that could throw the battle in favour of either side and took the ES battles from II and made them extremly better with a system that completly differed from PC combat and felt like a diffrent game.
05-30-2010, 01:16 AM
Ouch!

Albedo is the effin' man.
05-30-2010, 02:25 AM
Marshall Banana

I've played only I and II so far. I is definitely better in every aspect, including battle system.

I've heard that III is the best, though. =O
05-30-2010, 04:30 AM
NeoCracker

The only advantage 2 had over one is an improvement to the Boost Gauge. In I you were to limited in it's use since the enemy could take advantage of it and leave you in the dust. Didn't make up for the games other faults though, even though I still enjoyed it. :p

In every single aspect of the game though, Episode III is the best, bar none.
05-30-2010, 04:41 AM
sir helix

my only true complaints about 2 was the load speed, KOS-MOS' voice over and the lack of shops and cusomizing.

In 3 i didnt quite like the classic combat style it realy took me away from the xenosaga feel but i loved the frredom it gave you in battle instead of having to do the same exact moves every round.
05-30-2010, 04:45 AM
LunarWeaver

III is pretty awesome. It's the best rush job I've ever seen. I enjoyed all of them in their own ways, I suppose.

They underused such a good soundtrack for II :( All of that guy's terrible bull:bou::bou::bou::bou: and barely any songs Kajiura wrote.
05-30-2010, 06:44 PM
Wolf Kanno

I love Albedo and its really comes down to a toss up between Eps.1, Eps. 3 and Pied Piper in terms of the best entry... granted PP is pretty limited as a game since it is a cell phone game but the story is actually incredibly well written and I advise all Xenosaga fans to read a fan translation of it, especially if you like Ziggy. :D

In some ways, I like Eps.1 combat the most but Eps.3 has a better leveling system and the best mecha combat of the three entries. Eps. 2 has some redeeming qualities but lacks far behind when compared to the other two. I really feel you can't go wrong with Episodes 1 and 3 and seeing how Eps. 3 retcons quite a bit of Eps. 2 (since its based off the re-imagined version of the plot from Xenosaga I and II for the DS) its almost irrelevant to play Eps. 2 anymore.
05-31-2010, 06:42 AM
NeoCracker

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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno

I love Albedo and its really comes down to a toss up between Eps.1, Eps. 3 and Pied Piper in terms of the best entry... granted PP is pretty limited as a game since it is a cell phone game but the story is actually incredibly well written and I advise all Xenosaga fans to read a fan translation of it, especially if you like Ziggy. :D

In some ways, I like Eps.1 combat the most but Eps.3 has a better leveling system and the best mecha combat of the three entries. Eps. 2 has some redeeming qualities but lacks far behind when compared to the other two. I really feel you can't go wrong with Episodes 1 and 3 and seeing how Eps. 3 retcons quite a bit of Eps. 2 (since its based off the re-imagined version of the plot from Xenosaga I and II for the DS) its almost irrelevant to play Eps. 2 anymore.

The only real reasons to play 2 are the Jin vs. Margulius fights, which are epic, and all the Albedo scenes. However, both those you can find on youtube. :p
05-31-2010, 08:59 AM
Rostum

I had to watch Episode 1 as an 8 hour long cutscene (1 as a game wasn't released here), so it felt like a good intro to Episode 2 which I really enjoyed. Episode 3 is my favourite though!
05-31-2010, 09:50 AM
Wolf Kanno

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Originally Posted by NeoCracker

The only real reasons to play 2 are the Jin vs. Margulius fights, which are epic, and all the Albedo scenes. However, both those you can find on youtube. :p

Hence the reason why the game is obsolete. Unless you still have that addiction to the GS Campaign you told me you finally kicked six months... :colbert:
05-31-2010, 10:00 AM
NeoCracker

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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno

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Originally Posted by NeoCracker

The only real reasons to play 2 are the Jin vs. Margulius fights, which are epic, and all the Albedo scenes. However, both those you can find on youtube. :p

Hence the reason why the game is obsolete. Unless you still have that addiction to the GS Campaign you told me you finally kicked six months... :colbert:

...What the hell is a GS Campaign?
05-31-2010, 10:09 AM
Wolf Kanno

The Good Samaritan mini quest in the game. ;)
05-31-2010, 10:11 AM
NeoCracker

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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno

The Good Samaritan mini quest in the game. ;)

Oh god, that thing? Give me the card game any day. Best Card game in any game ever. I think it was the first that had it, wasn't it?
05-31-2010, 10:15 AM
Wolf Kanno

Yeah the first game had the card game, the poor man's Virtual On knock-off, and the odd but addicting Drill Game. Not to mention a casino with really loose slots. :smug:
05-31-2010, 10:19 AM
NeoCracker

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Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno

Yeah the first game had the card game, the poor man's Virtual On knock-off, and the odd but addicting Drill Game. Not to mention a casino with really loose slots. :smug:

...I'm going to have to put you down now, aren't I?
05-31-2010, 11:26 AM
Ultima Shadow

^-> Just the mention of the card game gets me nostalgic. It was glorious! The best mini-game in any game ever! Why the heck didn't they have it in the other 2 episodes? =(

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Originally Posted by Omecle

I had to watch Episode 1 as an 8 hour long cutscene (1 as a game wasn't released here), so it felt like a good intro to Episode 2 which I really enjoyed. Episode 3 is my favourite though!

Step 1: Mod your PS2.
Step 2: Import. =D

As for battle system, I really can't decide between Ep 1 and 3. I'd have said 3, if it wasn't because of that awesome "turn-wheel" thing in episode 1 that could increase exp, boost, crit-rate etc on certain turns. That was another absolutely brilliant feature.
06-01-2010, 07:55 AM
Rostum

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Originally Posted by Ultima Shadow

Step 1: Mod your PS2.
Step 2: Import. =D

I certainly have now! Just haven't got around to play them again. ^^;