On the PC. Thought about bumping the other thread, but I figured an official release warrants a new one!
http://na.square-enix.com/finalfantasyvii
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On the PC. Thought about bumping the other thread, but I figured an official release warrants a new one!
http://na.square-enix.com/finalfantasyvii
Apparently being in Australia means I can't buy it from either the EU or NA store. Why even bother letting me sign up in the first place? They should have just released this on Steam, to be honest.
I just saw it on a Youtube video. Looks like they didn't do much in terms of touching up the graphics, which is fine. Although...did they do something different to the music? I compared it to the OST and there seems to be a difference, almost like the PC was using MIDIs or something.
Yeah, the PC version uses MIDI's which are triggered by what your PC's system has, rather than pre-recorded MIDI's that are on the PS1 version.
"ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: WON FIRST BATTLE!"
I kid you not.
Dude, you're ****ing amazing. I'm not even sure I can get all the achievements now if that's the tip of the iceberg!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Banana
Somebody talk me out of buying this.
Don't buy this, Pike.
I'm tempted to buy this.
Here was me checking the EOFF Homepage on a daily basis, and then checking the other thread, it's only now that I checked the _actual site_ and found that it's available. Derp.
£7.99? Sold. I take it it's not on Steam then...
Uh... Have they actually done ANYTHING AT ALL to the original art (graphics, sound, movies) besides adding achievements and compatibility? What about a resolution bump?
Marshall Banana: Well, just imagine the plethora of achievements you'd get after spanking Emerald Weapon, then!
Actually, if I'm not mistaken it's actually a bit worse than simply having the MIDI triggering based on your sound card/whatever in your PC. I'm pretty sure I read that they actually recorded the MIDI run through the troutty synthesizer they included in the original PC release so now it's literally the original PC audio permanently stuck that way in the game. Hopefully someone mods in the actual soundtrack for the people who buy this either way because I was blown away (in a bad way) by the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rostum
So, if I was thinking of buying this....yay, or nay?
Doesn't look like it from the videos, in fact it looks like it plays with big black borders. Anything polygon based (the characters, basically) has benefitted from the smoothing/antialiasing that was missing on the PSX, but I think that was true for the original PC release. I recall it being similar on other cross-platform games like the original Tomb Raider.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Warrior
Damn. I was hoping we could at least install an alternative soundfont like in the original version.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22Actually, if I'm not mistaken it's actually a bit worse than simply having the MIDI triggering based on your sound card/whatever in your PC. I'm pretty sure I read that they actually recorded the MIDI run through the titty synthesizer they included in the original PC release so now it's literally the original PC audio permanently stuck that way in the game. Hopefully someone mods in the actual soundtrack for the people who buy this either way because I was blown away (in a bad way) by the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rostum
I wouldn't count on mods - I heard it's also DRM'd.
Emulate? Depends on how attached to the original soundtrack you are I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tifa's Boobs
If there's one thing I've learned over the years it's that absolutely anything can and will be cracked by people with the time, knowledge, and desire required to put in the effort.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloudane
If there's a second thing I've learned over the years it's that Parmesan is the best cheese.
Is there a video or something of how the music sounds now?
I saw a video on YouTube. I'm at work right now, so I can't look for it myself. Just search for it on there!
Okay, I'm just gonna read the achievement list and award them to myself as appropriate. The ones in bold, I have done.
End of Part I: Complete the first part of the game
End of Part II: Complete the second part of the game
End of Game: Complete Final Fantasy VII
Master Materia: Reach the maximum level of any Materia
Master of Gil: 99,999,999 Gil
Top Level: Reach level 99 with any character
Knights of the Round: Get materia Knights of the Round
Omnislash: Get Cloud’s last Limit Break
Catastrophe: Get Barret’s last Limit Break
Chaos: Get Vincent’s last Limit Break
Great Gospel: Get Aeris’s last Limit Break
Highwind: Get Cid’s last Limit Break
Final Heaven: Get Tifa’s last Limit Break
All Creation: Get Yuffie’s last Limit Break
Cosmo Memory: Get Red XIII’s last Limit Break
Slots: Get Cait Sith’s last Limit Break
Bahamut Zero: Get materia Bahamut Zero
Ultimate Weapon: Defeat the Ultimate Weapon
Diamond Weapon: Defeat the Diamond Weapon
Ruby Weapon: Defeat the Ruby Weapon
Emerald Weapon: Defeat the Emerald Weapon
Vincent: Get Vincent on your team
Yuffie: Get Yuffie on your team
Materia Overlord: Master all Materias*
Battle Square: Start a battle in Battle Square
Golden Feather: Get a Gold Chocobo
Won First Battle: Win your first battle
Braver: Use Cloud’s first Limit Break
Big Shot: Use Barrett’s first Limit Break
Galian Beast: Use Vincent’s first Limit Break
Healing Wind: Use Aeris’s first Limit Break
Boost Jump: Use Cid’s first Limit Break
Beat Rush: Use Tifa’s first Limit Break
Greased Lightning: Use Yuffie’s first Limit Break
Sled Fang: Use Red XIII’s first Limit Break
Dice: Use Cait Sith’s first Limit Break
*This one is technically impossible. Underwater cannot be mastered, unless they happened to change that in this version. I'm not counting on it. Probably doesn't count towards it anyway, which would make this achievement a lie anyway.
Yeah, I fail to see the faintest iota of a point in buying this. I still own two copies of the PSX version.
Simple:
End of Part I - Complete the first part of the game
End of Part II - Complete the second part of the game
End of Game - Complete Final Fantasy VII
Vincent - Get Vincent on your team
Yuffie - Get Yuffie on your team
Battle Square - Start a battle in Battle Square
Won First Battle - Win your first battle
Braver - Use Cloud’s first Limit Break
Big Shot - Use Barrett’s first Limit Break
Galian Beast - Use Vincent’s first Limit Break
Healing Wind - Use Aeris’s first Limit Break
Boost Jump - Use Cid’s first Limit Break
Beat Rush - Use Tifa’s first Limit Break
Greased Lightning - Use Yuffie’s first Limit Break
Sled Fang - Use Red XIII’s first Limit Break
Dice - Use Cait Sith’s first Limit Break
Master Materia - Reach the maximum level of any Materia
Master of Gil - 99,999,999 Gil (this is why I use Gil Toss to get rid of my Gil. Once you've got all 9s, you realize you've no longer any purpose for your Gil.)
Moderate:
Top Level - Reach level 99 with any character
Knights of the Round - Get materia Knights of the Round
Omnislash - Get Cloud’s last Limit Break
Catastrophe - Get Barret’s last Limit Break
Chaos - Get Vincent’s last Limit Break
Great Gospel - Get Aeris’s last Limit Break
Highwind - Get Cid’s last Limit Break
Final Heaven - Get Tifa’s last Limit Break
All Creation - Get Yuffie’s last Limit Break
Cosmo Memory - Get Red XIII’s last Limit Break
Slots - Get Cait Sith’s last Limit Break
Bahamut Zero - Get materia Bahamut Zero
Materia Overlord - Master all Materias
Golden Feather - Get a Gold Chocobo
Ultimate Weapon - Defeat the Ultimate Weapon
Diamond Weapon - Defeat the Diamond Weapon
Agony:
Ruby Weapon - Defeat the Ruby Weapon
Emerald Weapon - Defeat the Emerald Weapon
Technically, it's already mastered. I just hoped they removed the glitch that allows it to accrue AP. I mean, I'm pretty sure you weren't able to sell it for any gil no matter how much AP you gained on it. So...Quote:
Originally Posted by ReloadPsi
I'm surprised there isn't an achievement for obtaining Leviathan materia since you do a whole sidequest to get it. And what about getting all four Huge Materias?
I wasn't counting on Square-Enix not to phone this in. Frankly it surprises me that they even added achievements at all, even as crappy as these.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercen-X
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercen-X
So apparently despite being on the Serviced Countries list, Australia are not allowed to buy anything from either the EU or NA store. They said they are going to make a separate Aussie store, which means they're going to jack their prices way up. It's not a matter of they can't sell to Australia, it's just a matter of pure greed.
All I can say is smurf you Square, you've done it again. Oh well, not like I'm missing anything, since it's apparent they pretty much offered no effort in this re-release.
Hmm, I don't know. I looked at it on YouTube and it seemed as if the instruments sound different, or perhaps they mastered them with some compression and what appears to be heavy reverb?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22Actually, if I'm not mistaken it's actually a bit worse than simply having the MIDI triggering based on your sound card/whatever in your PC. I'm pretty sure I read that they actually recorded the MIDI run through the titty synthesizer they included in the original PC release so now it's literally the original PC audio permanently stuck that way in the game. Hopefully someone mods in the actual soundtrack for the people who buy this either way because I was blown away (in a bad way) by the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rostum
The after-battle tune sounds horrible, but, so far, the rest of the music I've heard sounds okay.
New version:
Attachment 36739
Previous version:
The menus and character models look nice.
Rostum, I feel you man. Colour me unsatisfied. I ought to write an angry article about it.
This should be interesting.
End of Part I: Complete the first part of the game
End of Part II: Complete the second part of the game
End of Game: Complete Final Fantasy VII
Master Materia: Reach the maximum level of any Materia
Master of Gil: 99,999,999 Gil (definitely via X-item exploit, which I guess won't be in this. 99% sure I've done it without, from selling master materia)
Top Level: Reach level 99 with any character
Knights of the Round: Get materia Knights of the Round
Omnislash: Get Cloud’s last Limit Break
Catastrophe: Get Barret’s last Limit Break
Chaos: Get Vincent’s last Limit Break
Great Gospel: Get Aeris’s last Limit Break
Highwind: Get Cid’s last Limit Break
Final Heaven: Get Tifa’s last Limit Break
All Creation: Get Yuffie’s last Limit Break
Cosmo Memory: Get Red XIII’s last Limit Break
Slots: Get Cait Sith’s last Limit Break
Bahamut Zero: Get materia Bahamut Zero
Ultimate Weapon: Defeat the Ultimate Weapon
Diamond Weapon: Defeat the Diamond Weapon
Ruby Weapon: Defeat the Ruby Weapon
Emerald Weapon: Defeat the Emerald Weapon
Vincent: Get Vincent on your team
Yuffie: Get Yuffie on your team
Materia Overlord: Master all Materias* (the ones that can be, presumably that's what they mean)
Battle Square: Start a battle in Battle Square
Golden Feather: Get a Gold Chocobo
Won First Battle: Win your first battle
Braver: Use Cloud’s first Limit Break
Big Shot: Use Barrett’s first Limit Break
Galian Beast: Use Vincent’s first Limit Break
Healing Wind: Use Aeris’s first Limit Break
Boost Jump: Use Cid’s first Limit Break
Beat Rush: Use Tifa’s first Limit Break
Greased Lightning: Use Yuffie’s first Limit Break
Sled Fang: Use Red XIII’s first Limit Break
Dice: Use Cait Sith’s first Limit Break
Welp, that's not too difficult. Been there done all that. There should totally be an achievement for 3 sets of master materia.
Those achievements are trout. Honestly. Where's the random, fun things to do? Like, have an achievement for getting make up in the Honey Bee Inn since it's not mandatory. Have an achievement for beating the Wutai sidequest before a certain point. Have an achievement for winning a smurfing chocobo race. Breeding your first chocobo. Killing the Midgar Zolom. smurf.
^ All of that!
Maybe they'll add those later in patches - I doubt it though
There should be an achievement for earning a date with Barret!
The current achievements are just other ways of saying "ACHIEVEMENT: PLAYED GAME." D=
and it should be called Once you go black...
From the SA forums:
http://www.gamefront.com/files/servi...ou?id=22128993
Sounds promising.Quote:
That link has the original PSX sound files in .ogg format. Just copy these files into the music_ogg folder and you're good to go!
Also
http://www.gamefront.com/files/22130...ed+Ogg+Fix.zip
Maybe some even better music?
Edited for actual link. Apparently looping is a bit hit and miss. Source: http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=13220.450
+ Tifa dateQuote:
Originally Posted by Marshall Banana
+ Yuffie date
There should also be ways to go on a date with the other available characters, maybe because early on, you said stuff during the AVALANCHE missions that pissed off Barret. And during the escape from Corel Prison...
There are some things that happen in the game as it is that could have potentially affected Cloud's relationships with Red XIII, Cait Sith, Vincent, and Cid. Well, maybe not Vincent, but they could add like an extra bit for him by returning to the manor.
Should be called "Camelot King": Get materia Knights of the RoundQuote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
Should be called "The Gladiator": Get Cloud’s last Limit Break
Should be called "Coal Man": Get Barret’s last Limit Break
Should be called "Solace": Get Vincent’s last Limit Break
Should be called "LTD Time Only": Get Aeris’s last Limit Break
Should be called "Salvo Salvage": Get Cid’s last Limit Break
Should be called "Return to Nibelheim": Get Tifa’s last Limit Break
Should be called "Pagoda Princess": Get Yuffie’s last Limit Break
Should be called "Cave Raider": Get Red XIII’s last Limit Break
Should be called "The Experiment": Get Vincent on your team
Should be called "The Runaway": Get Yuffie on your team
Should be called "Splitter": Use Cloud’s first Limit Break
Should be called "Burst": Use Barrett’s first Limit Break
Should be called "Berserker": Use Vincent’s first Limit Break
Should be called "Maiden Prayer": Use Aeris’s first Limit Break
Should be called "The Dragoon": Use Cid’s first Limit Break
Should be called "The Bouncer": Use Tifa’s first Limit Break
Should be called "The Ninja": Use Yuffie’s first Limit Break
Should be called "Wolf Dash": Use Red XIII’s first Limit Break
Should be called "The Gambler": Use Cait Sith’s first Limit Break
Then again, if there's going to be an achievement for using the first limit break, it shouldn't be one for each individual but instead for the whole group. Then there should also be one for using all of the last limit breaks for the whole group.
It's like they didn't even bother thinking about achievements... Such a waste of potential.
Scumbag Square-Enix...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rostum
I'm not surprised be any of this. Square-Enix has been phoning it in for years now.
This, so badly. That would be the best achievement. Master the Enemy Skill materia. Stay in the Haunted Mansion Inn. Get picked by the Don. Climb the smurfing staircase to attack Shinra HQ. Do the flashback in one sitting (now that's a smurfing achievement). Score X points in the Speed Square. Wasn't there flashback scenes of Cloud and Zack in the test tubes in Shinra Mansion? "Learn the truth about five years ago." Hell, you could keep some "played the game" type ones -- attend the Reunion.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissy
Golden Feather: Get a Gold Chocobo
this is the only achievement with even a remotely interesting name
yeah they didn't try here at all. shame on whoever was in charge of such a simple matter.
So aside of the achievements, and the ability to level your character up without actually playing the game, they didn't change anything, and they used the same terrible MIDI soundtrack from the original PC version?
Is there...any reason to buy it?
Nope. :D
Posted the Midi fix a few posts up (Not too keen on the remastered versions to be honest - PSX versions are the way to go)
It's arguably easier to set up than the old PC version or ePSXe
Other than that, not really :P
Edit: Fixed link for PSX music for 2012 PC version. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/87158028/ogg_music.zip.torrent
Bought it last night, will be playing it tonight.
Also, does anyone have any confirmation on the whole "online achievement profiles" being true? If so, anyone want to link to an example profile?
Tranquil, please edit your posts rather than double posting. Thanks! - MILF
Heartless but hilarious. Heartlariess?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mercen-X
Once you've installed the game, its main menu will contain a link to your personal profile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tranquil
This is mine, for example: http://finalfantasyviipc.com/en/profile/ichigoyummy
Honestly, bad achievements wouldn't bother me because I really don't like achievements at all. The fact that Jiro rattled off several more interesting ones in one post that probably took him all of five minutes is why I don't like them. They add nothing except a title for stuff you do anyway at best. At worst they're blatant attempts to turn all games into grindy skinner boxes, even when it doesn't fit.
Anyway, unless there's some stupid stuff I don't know about, I'd say someone should get this if they've never played or owned FFVII before and can't get their hands on a PSX or PSN copy.
Macho Man: Do 30 sit-ups in a minute
Macho Woman: Infiltrate Don's mansion dressed for success
Electrical Engineering: Climb the golden, shiny wire of hope and use the batteries
dats like 3 in the span of 15 minutes
this game has been out for decades or whatever and they got someone who has never played it to do the achievements. or the devs were reallly lazy and only check stats and item lists. perhaps the game schedule system is impossible to get into to connect to the achievements now...but that's stupid, there should be a way.
squeenix
lazy
milking a cash cow
pick two
Ah, this is awesome. I've never been that inclined towards VII since the whole big obsession over it (that, and Advent Children was awful) but perhaps this new game will really get me into it again. This is the very first instalment I had played as a kid so it might give me some nostalgia :D
I am sorely tempted by this. I'm trying to refuse myself I've got way to much outgoing on my account and way too many games I have never even played (I don't count 5 mins of putting in the disc for The Last Remnant and deciding I was way too drunk to play that level of thought process and switching the disc for MW3 as playing the game) on my shelf at the moment.
Though I am still tempted I mean, come on it is FFVII it's like first game I ever wanted to shed a tear over, VIII got me choked up at the point where in the Garden v Garden battle the SeeD cadets are all exhausted and wounded and there's the speech but Aeris' death, was the first time I felt computer games could handle emotions as well as books and film.
At first glance, $10 seems pretty cheap, but if there's essentially no new improvements aside from the achievements (that seem to be kindof lame) then I don't really see the point of buying it. Sad to get fans all excited about a re-release hoping for some significant improvements and then to see disappointing reviews make me not really care about it. :/
They're never going to top FFVII's story or game sales, so they should quit dancing around and just remake the damn thing so they can actually top the original's sales like they want to.
nah
remaking it in the current gen will just make all the flaws stand out
it's a wonderful game and probably my fave ff
but atmosphere would be different
and remaking it would mean the atmosphere would change
and let's be honest not likely for the better (compilation has achieved some stunning moments of 'wtf are you writing for a kindergarden audience' moments)
Square's latest excuse for not wanting to remake the game just yet is actually quite a good one, from a business point of view. So I'll give 'em props for that.
But yeah... Would it really have killed them to add in better achievements? Maybe new character models (can still be chibi, just high resolution polygonal count and actual textures rather than vertex colouring - unlike that god awful fan mod going around where the characters don't even fit in to the backgrounds). Even just re-rendering the backgrounds at a higher resolution wouldn't have been such a big task with today's technology.
So much potential, just down the drain.
This should be an achievement for talking to all of the Black Cloaks before reaching Northern Crater (mustn't forget the one in the Midgar slums).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
Tri-Force (lol, I know they can't use it) - Obtain Cloud's Apolalypse (more difficult than Scimitar since you must defeat Ultima)
Yup I got my copy and started playing. I'm at Wall Market currently. I'm enjoying it so far. The redone music sounds great. And it's actually kind of fun reading the dialogue again since so much of it has been re-translated. Also I love how the added mouths and now everyone looks like Lego Final Fantasy
From my discussion with IDNAN, everybody seems to be walking blowjobs now with their big :O faces.
Hahaha yes
I think they always had those anyway? But it was fuzzy because low res TV. Now it's not so fuzzy. I think the first time I noticed it was Jessie stood in the elevator looking all :redface:
(One of the Youtube vids mentions that Barrett also gained a thumb. Same story I think)
E: Encountered my first bug. Went to sleep in Wall Market (and picked up the crap from the vending machine) and.... didn't wake up again! Black screen of death! Good job I saved...
E2: Can't get past it, happens every time. No tiara for me then..
E3: Never mind, turns out it was the remixed music. Replace yado.ogg with the original one that shipped with the game!
The PC version was always like that. Horrifying innit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jiro
Really? I didn't notice while I was playing. Maybe I did notice and tried to block it out. Regardless, it's bloody weird.
great job squarenixQuote:
Originally Posted by Cloudane
"YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE US YOUR MONEY AND LOVE IT."
http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/233480-header.jpg
I might buy this because I lost the first disc of my PSX copy, and I want to play it.
You know, these achievements are totes lame. They'd still be lame, but not as lame, if they gave them quirky names a la WoW.
Jesus smurfing christ sephex you have just given me eternal nightmares
The list of achievements is shockingly lame, and this is from someone who generally doesn't give a crap about achievements. And with the lack of superior music or anything else, it's like they put zero effort into it.
Sure, it's still FF7, but I'm not giving Squeenix any money for this. If I want to play FF7 on my laptop, I'll just emulate it. More people need to stop rewarding them for crap work.
They could have at least done what Final FanTim did and fed the MIDI files through a symphony orchestra sound library and remixed the songs. I've done this with East West's Symphonic Orchestra before and you can get very good results without much effort (though I use it for my own compositions these days).
Ugh. I just can't get over the laziness of this re-release. XD
I love it, seph.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephex
They should have really. Though it only takes about 10 seconds (plus download time) to put the ogg versions of the remaster in your music_ogg folder yourself :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Rostum
It's nice that they left it open in that way and didn't use some proprietary format or encrypt them inside the exe or anything as you can just replace it with whatever you want.
Wasn't sure I liked them at first, but gave them a second chance and yeah. Love it. I nearly weed myself when I fought the first boss - they did a cracking job with the intro to that track :kakapo:
I say again: were you seriously counting on Square-Enix not to phone this one in?
i seriously thought they were going to not phone it in
They pretty much said they were going to phone it in. They said they weren't going to put in effort to remake FFVII until they made a game that surpassed it, so...Quote:
Originally Posted by krissy
I'm just waiting to see if the Cosmo Canyon and Chocobo Race bugs are still in game.
I mean, they left in the Eidos Interactive movie and Squaresoft logo, even though those companies didn't handle this version.
Who things the game breaking glitches are left in too? Anyone?
That is pretty pathetic.
[QUOTE=Skyblade;3119218]Wow.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissy
I actually inquired via email to Square-Enix why I should buy this PC rerelease. This is what they sent me in reply:
(SPOILER)http://ridiculouslife.net/uploads/2/...60389_orig.jpg
Real subtle, Square-Enix.
That could well mean they're going to leave it until we're once again back to sucking enough of their dicks and giving them enough money. Very audacious of them, but unfortunately I'm not surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissy