Star Trek not movie thread

I have recently (a few months ago) started to watch Star Trek The Next Generation with my boyfriend because he loves the show and has watched all of the episodes of all of the Star Treks ever if I am not mistaken. I have been saving monies to take him on a movie night to watch the new movie. Anyways, I am doing this to try and take an interest in his interests or something along those lines. I watched a few episodes of the original Star Trek and it was hilarious, although I don't think it was intended to be. You could make a very good drinking game out of all of the intense sweaty close ups.

I am a Star Trek n00b. I am at the start of season 3 of TNG. Tell me about Star Trek :monster:

Well for starters, you're at the point where TNG started to get very good.

Things worth bothering with - The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, The Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home, The Undiscovered Country, First Contact, the latest two films
Things not really worth bothering with - Voyager (unless the Doctor takes centre stage), Enterprise, all the films not mentioned above

I want to watch the old movies sometime but I'm scared they'll be too antiquated.

Spot is the best character on the show.

Is that the dog?

I watched one Star trek movie that had the cast from TNG and they were on some planet and Picard seemed to have almost gotten a girlfriend.

Can't remember what it was called.

Also, I'm glad the uniforms got looser and that Wesley stopped wearing grandma sweaters when he started working on the bridge.

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Spot is the best character on the show.

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My favourite is Captain Kurt.

This is all you need to know about Star Trek.

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I watched one Star trek movie that had the cast from TNG and they were on some planet and Picard seemed to have almost gotten a girlfriend.

Can't remember what it was called.

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I think that was the ninth film, Star Trek: Insurrection.

I've never actually watched a full season. Or all of one of the films come to think of it.

I saw a lot of odds and ends of the originals, TNG, DS:9 and Voyager but never a whole season of any of them.

I should really get around to it sometime.

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I want to watch the old movies sometime but I'm scared they'll be too antiquated.

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Dude the old Star Trek movies are fantastic and definitely hold up to the test of time.

Even Huxley agrees! :monster:

Anyways, I love Star Trek. I was raised on it. I was quoting TOS and the movies in everyday conversation by the time I was in kindergarten.

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Originally Posted by charliepanayi

Well for starters, you're at the point where TNG started to get very good.

Things worth bothering with - The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine, The Wrath of Khan, The Voyage Home, The Undiscovered Country, First Contact, the latest two films

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I would include Search for Spock since it's not terrible and jumping to the Voyage Home without it might leave her slightly confused as to a lot of things about how that movie begins.

Watch the Borg movie. Otherwise known as Star Trek: First Contact.

I used to know every line to that smurfing movie, I watched it so much. It's sooooo smurfing good.

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Originally Posted by shion

I watched one Star trek movie that had the cast from TNG and they were on some planet and Picard seemed to have almost gotten a girlfriend.

Can't remember what it was called.

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I think that was the ninth film, Star Trek: Insurrection.

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WRONG! It was Star Trek: His Erection

Anyway, my parent's and I watched this show back when it first aired. We picked up on it somewhere around season 2 (dad was kind of a fan of the original, so he decided to give it a go). Since it was syndicated so quickly, we really didn't have to wait long to see other episodes, which was a rarity in those days. Couldn't just pop on the Netflix to see what you missed, you know!

Anyway, I am a big fan of The Next Generation. The other shows I have more of a floating interest in, but I been meaning to rectify that for years now.

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

Is that the dog?

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Spot is Data's cat.

charliepanayi's list of things worth watching is pretty much complete but he didn't mention that TOS is also mostly worth watching. I guess The Search for Spock is okay too.

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I want to watch the old movies sometime but I'm scared they'll be too antiquated.

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Nope.

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Originally Posted by shion

I watched one Star trek movie that had the cast from TNG and they were on some planet and Picard seemed to have almost gotten a girlfriend.

Can't remember what it was called.

Also, I'm glad the uniforms got looser and that Wesley stopped wearing grandma sweaters when he started working on the bridge.

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I want the grandma sweaters back.

Also:

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EDIT: oh god this is the best thing ever, all the memes ALL OF THEM

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Poor old Wesley Crusher, even Wil Wheaton doesn't much like him.

Sorry, I left off the original series in my list as my knowledge of it is very patchy so I can't comment on it.

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Originally Posted by Psychotic

Is that the dog?

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Spot is Data's cat.

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Originally Posted by Data

Felis catus is your taxonomic nomenclature,
An endothermic quadruped, carnivorous by nature;
Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skills and natural defenses.

I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations,
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents;
You would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.
And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion,
It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.

O Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array.
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.

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Star Trek is great. Pretty much all of TNG is great, as is most of DS9 and even some of TOS (if only for the Kirk/Bones/Spock dynamic, the ridiculous campiness, and the occasional moment of a young George Takei going nuts). The movies for the most part may be underwhelming or bad for newer viewers unfamiliar with the series. You probably want to stick to Wrath of Khan and First Contact for starters; those are widely considered the best of the old movies, so you shouldn't move on to the others unless you first enjoy those.

The middle seasons of TNG were my favorite, IIRC, so enjoy. :) When you're through, I'm sure you'll be yet another unanimous vote in favor of Picard as the best Trek captain.

I've only ever bothered with TNG, although I've probably watched it all through a few times. I say "all"; I always skip the early episodes when Riker doesn't have a beard. From Season 3 onwards it improves massively.

I've started rewatching TNG because of this thread.

Small-time, I've started rewatching ALL of Trek because of this thread.

God the very first episode of TOS is amazing.

I've never actually seen any episodes of TOS.

Well, I probably have, but I just didn't pay attention to them.

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I've never actually seen any episodes of TOS.

Well, I probably have, but I just didn't pay attention to them.

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I have never colberted as hard as I colberted to this post. :colbert:

Well, apart from any time lonny bob posts. :doublecolbert:

Went to see this yesterday. It was pretty good. Didn't really make me think of Star Trek though, except for using the same names. But what do I know, I'm just a Star Trek noob :monster:.

I think they should have had George Takei dubbed over the Sulu (or whatever his name was) character.

Actually he should have dubbed over all of the characters.

You definitely need to watch more Trek, shion! The new movie was full of references and throw-backs to older ones. I was smiling at some reference or homage every couple of minutes. Good ol' Sulu, don't worry bro, you'll be the captain someday http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...ps3b660dd9.gif

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Went to see this yesterday. It was pretty good. Didn't really make me think of Star Trek though, except for using the same names. But what do I know, I'm just a Star Trek noob :monster:.

I think they should have had George Takei dubbed over the Sulu (or whatever his name was) character.

Actually he should have dubbed over all of the characters.

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*points to thread title* :p

The good TOS episodes remind me of B&W Twilight Zone episodes.

TNG is the best.

DS9 is good but the best story arcs involve maaaany episodes which was a pain back when they were originally televised.

Somebody come talk about Star Trek: TOS with me

I just watched "The Naked Time" and it's fantastic. What a great episode. What a great show.

Shirtless Sulu wandering the decks with a fencing foil? Nothing to complain about there.

Haha oh man, that was a truly classic moment of TOS.

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I love George Takei, but am I the only one who doesn't really think he was/is that good looking?

Sulu is Sulu.

TNG is best, DS9 is second best, and a good portion of TOS is excellent too. Voyager is ugh, but tell Hux I told you that. Enterprise I actually felt had potential before it was canceled.

Poor Sulu; George Takei really is a great actor and his acting skills shined in that episode and then he hardly ever got to use them again in the show.

I need more people to come talk about this show with me :( I just finished the first season of TOS. That City on the Edge of Forever episode is just a basket full of FEELS.

I will talk about it with you :D? I have nothing to watch during the day anymore, maybe we can sync up?

If you can deal with my newbishness.

City on the Edge of Forever is smurfing amazing. I'm not sure I've ever seen all of TOS before. They show a bunch of episodes on Space up here in Canada, but I think there are at least some they don't air. I'll have to get a hold of the seasons and rewatch it from the start I think.

I tried to watch all of TOS years ago, but I just couldn't get into too many of the episodes, and I've probably only seen about 1/3 of them. There are certainly some gems mixed into it, though, like with The City on the Edge of Forever.

Oh a bunch of them are complete ass by any modern standard, but I can't help but love them anyway. Looking back it's hard to believe the 60's was a thing that happened.

Netflix has got them all so I'm using that. A lot of the episodes are hilariously cheesy and yet I love them anyway. They always end on some sort of philosophical note. It reminds me of the classic Twilight Zone episodes.

So, I watched the first episode of season 2 of the original Star Trek. Spock was having some kind of mating/wedding ritual junk going on. Then he and Kirk were stuck in a fight to the death and Kirk was all surprised like YOU SAID NOTHING ABOUT THAT when seriously that was my first question. I was actually like, hey, maybe before you accept you should make sure it isn't a fight to the death? No? Okay then. But he survived and even got excused for not doing his job as he was ordered to so everything turned out okay in the end.

I like how Kirk's facial expressions didn't match anyone elses. Everyone looks surprised and he's all :). And another point everyone looks shocked and he's just there :).

Ahaha yeah I thought it was pretty obvious that it was a fight to the death so the fact that it shocked Kirk so much was funny to me.

Glad you seemed to like the episode okay though. I was watching and thinking it was kind of a really weird episode to start a newbie on.

THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS

Been watching TNG this week and it's pretty good. Riker is my favorite. What are some people's favorite episodes? I don't have time to watch them all so I'm focusing on the ones that have been rated high. Right now I'm in season 2. 'The Measure of a Man' has been my favorite episode so far.

The Inner Light is probably my absolute favorite episode.

SO many... In no particular order -

Ditto Inner Light and Measure Of A Man
The Royale
Peak Performance
Where Silence Has Lease
Best of Both Worlds (of course)
Chain of Command .... THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS

And of course any Q episode.

Edit - honourable mention to the one with the Tamarians

Yeah The Measure of a Man is amazing. Yesterday's Enterprise and The Offspring are a double-whammy of great episodes that Pike and I just watched. The Best of Both Worlds. The Inner Light. The Defector. The Survivors. All Q episodes; all Borg episodes.

TNG is pretty cool, but Deep Space Nine is easily the best written Star Trek series :monster: gotta love that ongoing storyline, rather than the fragmented nature of TNG.

There are some classics that are atop everyone's lists, such as The Inner Light, Chain of Command, etc.

Two of my personal favorites are the Measure of a Man and the Drumhead. There are others, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. But TNG and Picard in particular are at their best when the show's allegorical, and those two episodes are two prime examples.

Lot of good episodes mentioned. Bit disappointed no one brought out The Drumhead until Raist came along. It's probably even more relevant now than it was when it aired.

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TNG is pretty cool, but Deep Space Nine is easily the best written Star Trek series :monster: gotta love that ongoing storyline, rather than the fragmented nature of TNG.

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I love both shows. DS9 got great once the writers said "Holy trout Babylon 5 is kicking our asses we gotta get it together", and they did. I think TNG's best episodes are better though, as Raist says TNG is at its best when it's being allegorical (and when it's Picard destroying people who think they can defy Picard) and some of those episodes are absolutely sublime.

My boyfriend and I started watching TNG together after seeing the most recent movie. We're partially into season 3 now. We made a drinking game this weekend. A few instances that require us to take a shot include:

Bridge is shaking
Jean Luc Picard is French
Data makes a face
Jeordi eye joke
"set phasers"
Wesley apologizes

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Is that the dog?

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Spot is Data's cat.

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Data gets a cat? That makes me so happy. Data is my favorite c:

I became a fan of the franchise through Star Trek Voyager when I was a little kid. I remember seeing bits and pieces of TNG and DS9 before that, but didn't get really into it until I saw Voyager. My mom was a pretty big DS9 fan back when it was on and she saw every episode, I kinda regret not watching it with her looking back. Oh well.

I enjoyed all of the series and most of the movies. I currently have TOS Season 1 and 2, the best of TOS and TNG DVDs, the first five movies of Star Trek, First Contact and the two reboot movies. Played some Star Trek Online and has one PS2 game called Encounter. Still to this day I can never decide on which Starfleet uniform I'd want to wear if given the choice.

Loved Voyager when I was a kid. It aired every saturday at 17:00. I would usually do the groceries for my mom in town first, and then rush home on my bike to watch the next exciting adventure of Janeway and her crew.

I recently rewatched the 'Scorpion' episodes and I'm like ugh what is this trout. And I think those are some of the best episodes in the series :monster:

can't decide on a fave between TOS, TNG and DS9. Love them all. I'm amused how many of us are watching TNG right now. Hux and I are almost done with season three. :)

I have seen it.

All of it. (TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, All the movies)

(thousand year stare)

Oh, and I put on Wrath of Khan to go to sleep, so I've probably seen it over 200 times, most of them half while I was sleeping.

(thousand year stare)

I need to rewatch this show. :( I started back in May, but didn't continue.

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TAS

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Let's talk about how great TAS was because it was legitimately great. That Spock episode (can't remember what it was called) was glorious.

Did I show you guys this? The Vulcan salute was my idea.

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There was a woman there who was so impressed that little kids were familiar with original Star Trek (this was the early 90s) that she followed us into the parking lot to talk about it.

I've seen that picture so many times, and it never stops just being adorable.

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Let's talk about how great TAS was because it was legitimately great. That Spock episode (can't remember what it was called) was glorious.

There was a woman there who was so impressed that little kids were familiar with original Star Trek (this was the early 90s) that she followed us into the parking lot to talk about it.

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That's because Star Trek is legit awesome and totes agreeable to talk about

Spock episode...you mean the one where they go back in time to when he was a kid and had a tiger or something?

Yeah.

Actually I think it was called "Yesteryear".

WHAT A GREAT EPISODE.

god I love Star Trek.

The Lorelei Signal was cool too, as was BEM

Lorelei is where these sireens make all the menfolk aboard the starship incapacitated, so the women folk have to kick their ASSES

BEM is where a evil looking alien turns out to have a conscience, but has to learn a lesson and I just always thought it was cool cuz BEM stood for "Bug Eyed Monster" in the old comic biz

And the cat woman was hawt

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Lt. M'ress?

Yeah Huxley thought so too.

Interesting note: kirk says a line on the teaser to the first ep that is repeated halfway thru the last movie

"They'll be along."

Still watching. Halfway through season 5 of TNG. I'm not sure which one sharky will have me watch next, but I think I'm going to have a hard time adjusting if Data isn't in it.

We also got a Star Trek trivia book with like 2500 questions or something. Sharky is kicking my butt. I have only answered about 35% of the questions right so far (we are doing this in chunks because 2500 questions is a lot of questions) and most of those were guesses. But I did know a few of them!

Just saw the episode with mini-warf. It was adorable. The first few seconds I actually thought they had shrunk warf, which would have been pretty cute.

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I think I'm going to have a hard time adjusting if Data isn't in it.

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Good old Data :)

I want a Star Trek trivia book!

Having watched every series and movie several times over for my entire life is all the trivia book I need.

We got it here on sale at Books A Million for like $10. I don't know if thay have that book store chain in your area, but if they do, it's worth a look.

Or you can play via internet with my trivia book :P

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We got it here on sale at Books A Million for like $10. I don't know if thay have that book store chain in your area, but if they do, it's worth a look.

Or you can play via internet with my trivia book :P

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We don't have that chain here. :( Start a thread! :D

Gowron cannot lead the council. He stands alone.

"You will die slowly...Duraaaaas."

~ Gowron

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We got it here on sale at Books A Million for like $10. I don't know if thay have that book store chain in your area, but if they do, it's worth a look.

Or you can play via internet with my trivia book :P

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We don't have that chain here. :( Start a thread! :D

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Would anyone be interested in playing if I started a thread?

Yes!

Oh I'm gonna kick this trivia games bootay

I think Pike might be interested. That's at least THREE WHOLE PEOPLE which might as well be considered a majority as far as I'm concerned.

I'll have to ask sharky because I don't think we can save our game if I start a new one with this. OR better idea, I'll use the questions we play, write them down, and post those :D

This isn't illegal or anything is it?

If it is I won't tell. ;)

I'ma revive this thread here.

Almost finished TNG. One season left. I very much enjoyed Data's cat beating up on Riker. There's a new alpha in town :mymelontd:

I'm still on season 3 but watching a couple each week. My favorites so far are The Offspring and Measure of a Man. Not surprisingly, both are Data-centric episodes that focus on his humanity. Fascinating stuff.

Measure of a Man is included into the Best of Star Trek The Next Generation DVD alongside The Best of Both Worlds and Yesterday's Enterprise so you're not alone there.

Picard and Riker makes pretty good lawyers.

I can't remember which episodes those are. I didn't really pay attention to the titles.

Measure of a Man is when that douche wanted to disassemble Data calling him property and they debated his rights as a sentient being.

Oh I hated that guy :nonono:

I knew he loss the second he listed his qualifications for what made a person sentient.

WHAT IS HE???

A machine!!

IS HE ARE YOU SURE?!?

On Voyager, the Doctor uses medical data obtained by a Cardassian (Crell Moset) who conducted inhuman experiments on prisoners of war for his research. Doing so saves B'Ellana Torres but the Doctor questions his own morality. He realizes by utilizing the medical data, he is condoning the horrible methods by which that data was acquired and thereby lowering himself to that level. So to avoid ever doing so again, he deletes all of Moset's research from the ship's database.

...and... I don't know why I mention it.

Because the Doctor in Voyager is awesome.

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On Voyager, the Doctor uses medical data obtained by a Cardassian (Crell Moset) who conducted inhuman experiments on prisoners of war for his research. Doing so saves B'Ellana Torres but the Doctor questions his own morality. He realizes by utilizing the medical data, he is condoning the horrible methods by which that data was acquired and thereby lowering himself to that level. So to avoid ever doing so again, he deletes all of Moset's research from the ship's database.

...and... I don't know why I mention it.

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I think that episode would have come off a lot better if they hadn't made Moset such a "mustache-twirling Snidely Whiplash" villain in the end. It would have been more of a dilemma if he weren't so obviously psychotic.

And Robert Picardo carried that show, imo.