This sunday, it's coming. I expect one of the best ending in TV series history. I can't wait to see this !
Who watches this show ?!
What do you expect ?!
This sunday, it's coming. I expect one of the best ending in TV series history. I can't wait to see this !
Who watches this show ?!
What do you expect ?!
I expect Walter to die in some kind of elaborate Sonny Corleone-like fashion.
They're definitely going to go out with a bang. This has been one of the best series I've watched.
I don't know what I expect, but I'm excited.
Anyone wanna speculate about how it's going to end? I'm going to copy-paste what I wrote over at Fool's Gold, which got no responses :aimsad:
OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE SPOILERS I think Walt will live, but possibly end up in jail. He's clearly the bad guy at this point in the show, but they've made it pretty clear that the good guy is not guaranteed to win; in fact, the good guy is probably more likely to die in Vince Gilligan's version of the Albuquerque meth trade.
S05E01 shows a flash-forward of him buying an M60 and ammunition from some random black market dude. His ID card tells us that he is now using an alias and is carrying a New Hampshire drivers' license. If we assume he has left New Mexico, why would he be coming back, and on whom does he plan to use this gun?
First thought would be Declan. By S05E08 Walt has declared himself "out of the game". However, at the end of this episode Hank finally realizes that Walt is Heisenberg. This could lead Walt to flee, and since he has quite recently become the cook for Declan and his crew, it would not go over so well with them that their chemist just up and leaves. This may lead Declan to order the killing of some or all of Walt's family. Walt somehow hears of this and comes back to New Mexico to avenge his loved ones. The only reason I think this would not be the case is that I feel like the writers would like to end the series on a darker note, with Walt using the gun to kill someone generally regarded as good (such as those speculated below).
Second thought is Hank. In S05E08 Hank realizes that Walt is Heisenberg. It's plausible that Walt flees Albuquerque to escape Hank, but why would he come back to kill him? I can't put this one together, but it's certainly a possibility.
Third thought is Jesse. Walt and Jesse have been, what can be called "friends" off and on throughout the series, but Walt is not the man he used to be. He is not at all similar to the Walter White from Season 1, Episode 1. He killed Mike simply because of his absurd ego, and it's not out of the realm of possibility that he has come back to kill his former partner. Perhaps Jesse has agreed to cooperate with the DEA in the search for Walt, and he just can't allow that to happen. The whole thing would come full circle if Walt decided to off one of his former students and his only "friend" throughout this whole mess.
Others who I think have a good chance of dying:
Skyler White
Walter White, Jr.
Holly White
Saul Goodman
Steve Gomez
Red pill I'll have to disagree. (SPOILER)This is the last season, Walter has to die. He can't go to jail because it will leave an opened door for a sequel.
I'm thinking maybe Jesse's gonna be the one who has to do it.
I've only seen the first season, and a little of the second. Perhaps I'll spend the next 2 days marathoning so I'm caught up.
(SPOILER)Unless Walter is given life in prison for any of the 20+ murders that he is directly or indirectly responsible for. It's ridiculous to say Walt HAS to die without even giving a reason why. Not to mention that you act as if every book/movie/TV show leaves the plot completely resolved without any ambiguity. I'm not even going to explain why that's not at all true, because it should be self-evident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Inferno
The only thing I'll agree with is that IF Walt does end up dying, it'll be by Jesse's hand. I just don't think he'll die at all
Not sure what's going to happen yet as I am still on season 3. I need to catch up so no unmarked spoilers plz.
(SPOILER)No no no don't misunderstand me. A lot of series end with people still alive, unanswered questions and unresolved plots... and it's okay like that. But in this specific show, Walt has gone mad. He's never gonna stop. Personnally, I think that if he ends up in jail, it's just not enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Took the Red Pill
I renamed this thread to be specific to the final season as it would be silly to spoiler things from past seasons at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
SAY MY NAME.
spoiler tag because f-bomb
(SPOILER)
I swear that episode was 15 minutes. Felt so damn short. I'm pumped that they jumped right into the confrontational stuff. Now if Jesse would quit being such a bitch I would be really happy.
If Walt doesn't die of cancer I'm gonna be bummed.
I'd like that too. But in the scene where his house is abandonned and he has a beard, he seemed pretty healthy
Walt's arrogance is just astounding. I was irritated at first that he confronted Hank right away and revealing that he knew Hank knew, but that fits right into Walt's character of thinking he can "solve" everything by plowing straight ahead with pomp and bluster. And how would Hank not have been notified that Heisenberg had retired? The quality of meth had dropped precipitously; surely Hank would have been told that much.
Regardless, I can't wait to see what happens.
Pretty exciting stuff!
The Star Trek conversation had me in stitches. xD
(SPOILER)A great quasi-premiere that lays everything out so we no longer have to wonder what and how the characters will become privy to the information we already have. Everything was great: The scenes with Carol, Skyler getting ready to break some kneecaps at the carwash, Jesse losing his trout once again and going all Paperboy about it - and of course, the chilling, weighted lines of dialogue doled out in a closed garage.
I think my ideal ending is for everyone except Walt to get killed, and then twenty years later Kaylee Ehrmantraut turns up and shoots him in the goddamn face.
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Great episode. Possibly one of the best ever. Very uncharacteristic of this show to move things along so quickly. I didn't expect any confrontation for at least 3 episodes.
Seeing Walt slowly go from 'the family man' to Heisenberg in that last scene was amazing. He tested his footing on each level until finally reaching the bottom when he realized it none of it would convince Hank.
This link contains some interesting speculation about what may be foreshadowed in the show, but if the speculation is true it constitutes some pretty major spoilers. Read at your own peril!
You can even see Bones saying "He's dead, Jim."
It does bring up some interesting speculation, and I think they've got some of it right, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and I think the community is getting a little out of hand with claims of foreshadowing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pantz
For example:
I don't see this at all. Jesse's sudden "freedom with money" comes from the immense guilt he's feeling at holding onto the "blood money". He doesn't want it and he's trying to get rid of it any way he can because it eats him up inside. Walt, on the other hand, seems to be doing it in the spirit of a man who knows he's about to make a final stand and has no use for the absurd sum of money he has. In this way I feel like some BB fans are overlooking what was actually meant here, blinded by the idea that everything in the show is foreshadowing for the end.Quote:
He also left $100 bill to the Denny’s waitress, which parallels Jesse’s sudden freedom with money.
And obviously Gilligan and Co. have a hard-on for color coordination, but just because that kid's wearing a yellow shirt doesn't suddenly mean he's dead.
Yeah, they definitely get out of hand with it. :p The major points seem pretty credible, though.
So after watching Season 5 Episode 9 I have a few speculations.
(SPOILER) First, I believe Walt will not get murdered like I had originally believed. I think him dying is too easy of a climax. Obviously Hank now knows his real identity, and going by the Heisenberg graffiti other people do too. Yet, if he's on the run from the law, why didn't the lady run and call the police as soon as she saw him? Either way he killed her according the oranges theory. The Cancer may return, but going by the flash forwards it's most likely still in remission since he has hair so I ruled out that killing him for now.
And yeah Skylar and Jesse are most likely dead. I don't think Walt will kill Jesse, I think Jesse will kill himself. I actually imagined that Walt would still probably talk to his corpse. Yes, twisted I know. Jesse is to Walt like Max was to Gus just without the homosexuality.
Hank might die, but I don't think Hank will die at the hand's of Walt especially now that Hank suspects him as Heisenberg. He hasn't told anyone yet, but that doesn't mean it still can't be incriminating. Lydia is definitely going to be the worse problem for Walt as she knows a lot and is skittish enough to do something stupid.
This is definitely something I can believe as Walt is a sociopath and doesn't have the emotional guilt that normal humans like Jesse feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by I Took the Red Pill
I definitely agree with this too. Skylar always wears green or gray. Marie always wears purple. Jesse wore a lot of red and yellow, and now just black as he's mourning or something. Look up color psychology in film. Yellow has nothing to do with death. Many of the characters who have died never wore yellow anyway. Yellow has to do with a person being "hard to look at or deal with" or "anxiety". Walt wore pale green a lot in the first season when he was very sick and pale green refers to illness. Many villains wear yellow in film and television interestingly enough...Quote:
And obviously Gilligan and Co. have a hard-on for color coordination, but just because that kid's wearing a yellow shirt doesn't suddenly mean he's dead.
more on this...Most interestingly Walt used wear his gold jacket a lot opposed to him now more commonly wearing his black jacket which Mike also wore. Villains wear black and heroes wear gold. We saw Walt go from what we thought was a person trying to get money for his family, to a person filled with embitterment, pride, and selfish greed. Then in Episode 9 where he claims to have left it all, he's wearing gold again. Interesting :/
And now I am just realizing that Skylar is tall as smurf.
Some dude on reddit brought up this possibility... would be the biggest holy trout moment of the entire show:
he has been suspiciously absent the past few episodes...Quote:
Originally Posted by Some dude on reddit
Jesse hasn't said a word in 2 episodes. Can't wait to see if he'll team up with Hank
Note true. He had quite a few lines in "Blood Money" when he was trying to have Saul send the money to Kaylee Erhmantraut, and again when Walt came over to try and get him on his side. This past episode though, yeah.
I think it's pretty clear that he's going to team up with Hank, even though he despises him. Hank just needs one piece of evidence to expose Walt's lies (Jane's death, Brock's poisoning, Mike's death) to get him on his side. Though the way Jesse was acting towards Walt in "Blood Money" leads me to believe that he's already pretty sure Walt killed Mike.
Oh yeah, he did speak in the 9th episode. Totally forgot.
Btw, Mike is in Belize.
Bye Jessie, nice knowing ya.
Also where the flip is the baby?
With Junior in the car I guess.
Best plot device they've ever used making Hank Heisenberg hahaha. That was priceless
The baby is obviously in the lab learning the meth game so that she can take over once Walt bites it in the finale.
Aww, I really wanted Jesse to live happily ever after in Alaska.
My jaw was on the floor for the confession part. When he started fake crying at the end, Jesus Christ.
Walt isn't going to off Jesse right now. The entire show hinges on the relationship between the two. The flashforward must be Walt going to rescue Jesse from the Nazis, who have kidnapped him because Todd's cooks have fallen below acceptable standards. Walt will redeem himself in some small way before taking the ricin and dying a few days later in prison. That's how I'm seeing it, anyways.
Oh yeah, the "confession" was beautifully. I applauded... in my head though 'cause I watch it alone and don't want to be that weird.
Miriel is so smart. She knew exactly that was going to happen as soon as they sat down to dinner!
I know it was never gonna happen but why couldn't you have just gotten in the van Jesse??? WHY??? :crying2::crying:
You would have loved Alaska. You would have worn flannel and met a girl and gotten a dog. :whimper:
Walt is utterly evil and unlikeable now...but I guess that's the point
I am pretty certain Walt is going to lose his throne. Todd and his group may take over. Walt shouldn't have taught someone he couldn't trust how to cook and now that will come back to bite him in the ass. Lydia will also screw him over (and is already evidently) by partnering with Todd's skinheads to make a new empire.
The thing with Jesse is yes he finds out everything except the Jane thing (I didn't like that lame ass revelation by the way), but there is no way he succeeds at burning his house down because we see it in the flash forward in a previous episode. I find it odd how Holly has been oddly absent for a while and I think Walt will use Jesse's weakness towards children to further manipulate Jesse in to doing what he wants him to do.
Side note: I totally slow clapped after Walt's confessional video. That was some of the best writing and acting I have ever seen.
I don't think Walt will redeem himself but the wire has me wonder...
Walt is a sociopath who feigns guilt. Jesse feels real guilt. Their relationship is extremely weird, but you must remember Walt keeps people near him that he can further manipulate: Skylar, Flynn, Marie
EDIT: Actually scratch that. Walt did seem to feel genuine guilt about killing Jane and the first guy he killed. I think he slowly lead in to descent and will keep spiraling downward, but there is still a lot in their relationship that has yet to be explained. I think Walt wants to keep Jesse alive for the sake of having a formidable protege if he does die and was disappointed when Jesse decided he wanted to stop making meth.
That confession was one of the best moments of TV of the year. I knew that drug money to pay Hank's medical bills was going to come back and bite him in the ass, but I did not expect Walt to be so goddamn artful and brilliant in the blackmail. Just beautiful.
Walt is a pathological user at this point who is incapable of ever backing down. Jesse totally called it when Walt was trying to manipulate him to leave.
I actually got the distinct feeling that Todd is gonna kick the bucket before the end. Not exactly the brightest fellow, that Todd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
What I don't get about Walt claiming that Hank made him pay his medical bills... If Hank is the brains, wouldn't he have the money to pay his own medical bills? Or am I missing something?
Yeah I don't get that either and I am sure since he is DEA he has good health insurance.
That doesn't mean Hank wouldn't make Walt pay out of his share, or any other plausible scenario Walt could invent (e.g., Hank having used Walt to hide/launder the money, thereby requiring Walt to get the cash). I agree with Hank's analysis that the $170k in drug money to pay his medical bills would sink him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
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They explained this pretty clearly when Hank was injured; his insurance was not going to pay for the specific rehabilitation treatment Marie wanted for him (and thought he needed to walk).Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
I know they said that but it still doesn't make any sense. I don't think the writers researched how much insurance would cover him getting injured and rehabilitated. My dad also works for the government and probably makes less than a DEA agent yet was still able to pay for his. It would have made more sense if they said something along the lines of him not having a lot of money because of Marie's lavish spending habits or whatever.
As for the most recent episode, this is my first time not being surprised by the turn of events. Hank coming to stop him was evident and them teaming up is the only way for them to take down Walt without incriminating themselves, but now with that plan foiled it will be interesting how things progress.
'What's one more?' - my favorite line ever from Skylar.
As much as I like Jesse, I have to agree with thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Del Murder
i agree with the plot prediction of I Took The Red Pill
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I wish they would hurry up already and tell the audience why Walt has such a hard-on for Jesse.
Having a longterm Meth partner is something anyone would be able to understand unless they had one. Like what married people keep telling single people except with more moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
You really haven't figured it out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
Breaking Bad as a Romantic Comedy - YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
I've always been under the impression that Jesse represents his failure to become the kind of man (and teacher) he thought he was, and failing Jesse again would mean for him a complete failure to become a man worthy of anyone's respect.
Though I could be way off.
No, you got it. I mean, Jesse still calls him 'Mr. White'. There's a reason for that.
Jesse is also a surrogate son to him and the last link between the old Walt and the new Walt. If he kills Jesse, he could kill anyone, including Hank, Skylar, anyone who 'gets in his way'. All the killings up to this point have been people he met after he started the meth trade. Once he crosses that line and messes with his old life, it's over for him.
So apparently Hank is played by Fortune from Metal Gear Solid 2.
That was intense. Also an awful lot of bullets for no blood.
Guys show anyway to try and save the man they need to help them cook.
Shoot at the car he's in.
Hank isn't a bad shot. That gunfight was ridiculously unbelievably.
Thought this episode was the worst of Season 5B so far tbh. I know that Walt would never expect Jesse to collaborate with Hank, but I like to think he wouldn't be so careless as to confess to the laundry list of murders he was directly responsible for over a cell phone call. When he knows Hank is on the hunt for him? C'mon, that's not Heisenberg. Felt like a forced plot point.
Gunfight was pretty poorly done too, I thought.
The most heartbreaking and best part of this episode is the look of relief on Jesse's face when he sees Walt put in cuffs. It was obvious even at this point that trout was going to go down and that it wasn't going to work out for Jesse (what's new), so this one hit me pretty hard.
Agreed on all points. Especially Jesse's face. ;___;
Yeah, if that many guys are shooting at you and you have one handgun you don't just fire willy-nilly. -_-;Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
The gunfight was definitely bad. Walt recklessly driving out there without considering Hank could be tailing him and confessing over the phone was bad; it was definitely a forced plot point to set up the confrontation. Hank thinking that they have Walt and that it was all over then was really bad (they still had a lot of work to do to connect any of those confessed crimes to actual crimes, and Hank was going to have to work around Walt's phony confession and the $177k). But the rest of the episode was good. Hopefully the resolution of the situation isn't as silly and forced.
i think it's all right
walt's desperate again
the cancer's back and the money might get taken away? yeah he panics. he wouldn't consider jessie teaming up with hank. and this is right after saul walked into his car wash and told him huell's probably dead.
but yeah that gunfight mixed feelings about that
a lot of this episode was predictable, especially after the phone call to marie. shame about hank he's not likely to survive this. altho if he did that would make the whole predictable episode a lead up to something unpredictable.
honestly i feel like what ItooktheRedPill said before, with the nazis takign jesse to cook and walt coming after them is the thing that's gonna happen.
i also feel like brock's gonna do walt in somehow.
The gun fight wasn't any worse than the plane thing a few seasons back. Breaking Bad has never really been all that realistic of a show.
Hank has thrown up so many death flags this episode. :(
oh man i forgot about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
that was the moment we went into fairy tale territory and i swear if the end = walt's been hit by the wreckage and all this happened in his head i'll be pissed
ps they announced they're doing a 'Better Call Saul' spinoff with certain actors returning and since that's spoiled for me who survives i suggest you avoid the news for it until a month from now
and even then i hope it's a joke
I've been thinking that the whole Saul spin-off thing could be bulltrout and an attempt to conceal the fact that Saul will end up dead by the end of it.
And honestly, I'm not too keen on that idea as a whole. Saul is one of my favorite characters in the show, but he shines when he's shown like once every episode or two. He's a great supporting character, and integral to the plot of Breaking Bad, but I don't think an entire show based around him would be all that good.
It's a prequel.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissyoh man i forgot about thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
that was the moment we went into fairy tale territory and i swear if the end = walt's been hit by the wreckage and all this happened in his head i'll be pissed
ps they announced they're doing a 'Better Call Saul' spinoff with certain actors returning and since that's spoiled for me who survives i suggest you avoid the news for it until a month from now
and even then i hope it's a joke
It's also going to be awful, guaranteed
(SPOILER)http://i.imgur.com/kWtkPEE.gif
I don't think Saul will die, but I do think his show is going to blow. I will still watch it because it will be a chance to possibly see people like Mike again. Mike was awesome. "Shut up, Walt."
lol: http://www.savewalterwhite.com/
It's pretty evident what's going to happen next which is unfortunate.
I thought it was pretty weird how he took Holly to teach Skylar a lesson. Wtf??? You mean the person who was on your side who could have ratted you out at any time...how about YOU be grateful mother smurfer. smurfing Walt.
I also hate Skylar but not for any of the chauvinistic reasons most people do. I hate her because she is exactly what she said, "a coward". She tried like Walt to the keep family together though and that was commendable I suppose. I find it interesting how he didn't say who really killed Hank maybe so no heat could be looking for the skinheads leaving him to find them himself without any feds.
Saul gives him a new identity, he then goes to New Hampshire where he is still gradually dying from cancer. As a last resort, he buys a big ass gun to kill Todd and his men either to avenge his family (not Jesse because that would make no sense) and get all of his money back. The wire under his shirt is actually a bomb. He didn't go in to witness protection. Todd and his men probably know that Skylar knows too much and go to wreck his home and kill all the family.
All or none of them survive depending if Skylar goes in witness protection or not which she should. Jesse dies, but I haven't figured out how yet. My guess is that Walt poisons him with the ricin as Todd's men need him, so they'd want to keep him alive as long as possible to keep making the meth, but I think the ricin is mainly for Walt to take his own life.
And this episode kind of disappointed up until the knife part when Skylar finally grew a pair.
shiny,
that entire speech over the phone was because he knew the phone was being tapped and he wanted to clear any blame from skyler. it was an act, just like all his other acting. skyler realized it too if you look at her face, because she never did any of the things he said she did and did more than he gave her credit for. he was trying to take all the blame on himself once the investigation begins.
I can't say I was shocked by what happened, but I was more entertained with last night's episode than I have been with the previous episodes of season 5 part II. That was a very emotional hour of TV. I'm definitely looking forward to see what unfolds in the final two episodes.
Such an uncomfortable episode to watch yet I wouldn't dare be doing anything else.
Hank died a man's death. Badass to the end.
I know some people have a problem with the nazis being introduced as the antagonists this late in the show, but i'm loving it.Quote:
"Whoa! Not so fast there Sparky."
Uncle Jack and Todd are increasingly interesting characters. Todd in a Buffalo Bill kind of sense; that guy gets creepier every episode.
Jack is kind of a folksy aryan Gus Fring. He's a bad guy, but also clever and charismatic.
I agree. Walt's crying during this scene made it pretty powerful.Quote:
he was trying to take all the blame on himself once the investigation begins.
Man, that was heavy. Very well done. Yeah, the phone call home was heartbreaking. Probably the last time he'll ever talk to his wife. Probably the last time he'll see either of his children. The whole series has been giving us Heisenberg pretending to be Walter White. We finally saw it go in the other direction.
Yeah I know that. This was evident. He's still a dick. :monster:Quote:
Originally Posted by krissy
Hank and Jesse the only an heroes. And Flynn now too.
These Neo-Nazi people need to go. I think the only redeeming thing Walt can do at this point is kill or frame them which is inevitably going to happen anyway.
honestly some of the stuff you say about this show is the best stuff on the net sometimesQuote:
Originally Posted by I Took the Red Pill
great work
I bet you Jessie survives till the end. Walt goes to kill the Nazi's using either the ricin or the machine gun and succeeds but probably gets wounded. But then Jessie comes out from hiding and ends Walt. Just you see. Perhaps the ricin is instead for Jessie and in the end they both die.
What a heavy episode. Poor Hank. :(
I think you misread both the taking of the baby and the vitriol that Walt was spewing on the phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
He took Holly because he was in agony over the dissolution of his family and Holly was the one person left who was still family and didn't hate his guts. And all the stuff about how Skyler needed to be grateful for everything HE has done and following his directions exactly and not toeing the line was to absolve her of her participation because of course he knew the police were listening. It was the last bit of kindness he could do for her. And his face at the end of the phone conversation... god damn, he knew it was probably the last things he would ever say to her.
Heartbreaking episode. Seriously, I can't even handle it. Most depressing show in the history of forever? I think yes.
Yeah, as soon as he asked if there were any police listening I knew he would be coming up with another one of his 'stories' since he's smart enough to know there was no chance of the police not listening.
And the taking of Holly was clearly because she was his only remaining family that didn't see him as a monster. He thought better of it eventually.
How about that bookend effect the scene in the cold open provides?
Walt is discussing Holly on the phone, except this is a happy conversation and the main concerns are pizza and naming their child.
Flash forward 20 months and Walt is again having a conversation on the phone with Skyler about Holly. However this is a very different, darker conversation. As its been said, this is his goodbye and really the only good deed he has left to do for his family.
This show fascinates me.
And in both cases it's Walt spinning one of his many stories. Except the first scene is him stumbling along in his lie and it's kind of cute. The 2nd conversation is him being monstrously convincing. Although I do choose to believe that Skyler understood what he was doing at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Foo
THIS THREAD IS MAKING ME TEAR UP AGAIN.
she absolutely did. you can tell by her face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
Time to cheer up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
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So, in my opinion, Walt is entirely evil, except when it comes to his family. I expect soon we will see why he was kicked out of his multibillion company.
Jesse seems like he would have gone straight, but every time he tries, Walt ruins his life a little more.
I don't understand why Walt said what he did to Jesse in this last episode. He was too scared to help her when that happened. Does he want Jesse to hate him?
I'm so excited for the end!!!
no, he wasn't scared. he let her die to remove her from jessie's life because she was a bad influence on him and was getting him into heroin. to me, that was the moment where he really began his journey to being a sith lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
That's what I thought the first time I saw it, and I think that that helped him justify it, but for the first few seconds of her vomiting (during which she got vomit in her lungs most likely) I don't think he knew what to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissyno, he wasn't scared. he let her die to remove her from jessie's life because she was a bad influence on him and was getting him into heroin. to me, that was the moment where he really began his journey to being a sith lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
Nah. There are only like 90 minutes of show left, it would be a waste of time to delve into this side-plot. If I'm wrong I owe you a beer, but I'm pretty sure on this. btw, he wasn't "kicked out". He left Gretchen for undisclosed reasons and voluntarily sold his shares for $5000.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
He blames Jesse for what has just happened. If Jesse had never decided to cooperate with Hank, Hank and Gomie would still be alive and Walt would still have all of his money. He said the thing he knew would hurt Jesse the most. Obviously this is a delusional and selfish thing for Walt to believe. Vince Gilligan himself said something like "blaming Jesse for everything that has happened is akin to blaming the last guy who strikes out for losing the ball game."Quote:
I don't understand why Walt said what he did to Jesse in this last episode. He was too scared to help her when that happened. Does he want Jesse to hate him?
Also, lol at "too scared to help her". It was a purely utilitarian and evil act.
What does Saul say to reassure his clients?
S'all good, man.
Don't mind me, just making jokes still to sky away from the fact the last episode depressed the hell out of me, and I know it is going to just get worse.
I really hope Jesse survives and makes a life for himself.
And because she was vying against him. He did it more so for his own interests than Jesse's.Quote:
Originally Posted by krissyno, he wasn't scared. he let her die to remove her from jessie's life because she was a bad influence on him and was getting him into heroin. to me, that was the moment where he really began his journey to being a sith lord.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
That still goes to Six Feet Under. Every episode began with something really depressing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
It would have been nice if they went in to what happened with Gretchen about five episodes ago, or even one season ago, but it's a minor plot point at this point.
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He took Holly because he was in agony over the dissolution of his family and Holly was the one person left who was still family and didn't hate his guts. And all the stuff about how Skyler needed to be grateful for everything HE has done and following his directions exactly and not toeing the line was to absolve her of her participation because of course he knew the police were listening. It was the last bit of kindness he could do for her. And his face at the end of the phone conversation... god damn, he knew it was probably the last things he would ever say to her.
I got all of that, but that still makes him a dick for taking Holly. He's a neglectful father. Holly doesn't even know him (as much as a baby can know a person anyway) and clearly would rather be back with the parent who has been taking care of her the entire time, mummamma. And yes as I already stated pretty obvious that he knew the police were listening and I think Skylar eventually caught on with what he was saying as well, but her character is beyond pathetic at this point.
This episode was the only one that saw her making a serious stand against Walt's bulltrout and then what does she do? "I'm sorry." Yes, apologize to your abuser. I am hoping she just said that because he had Holly and she didn't want him to get angry and keep her.
The reason I'm thinking they will flashback to it is to show that Walt has always been evil, he didn't just become evil because of his cancer.
I can't help but feel like you're missing a lot of the complexities here. I don't think Skyler is a pathetic character. I think there are a lot of reasons why she acted the way she did in the phone conversation. I think desperation to try and get Holly back was one, I think playing along with the abused wife scenario that Walt was putting out there was another, I think a part of it is that she WAS put into a really bizarre domestic situation where she has feared her husband, and I also think she knew it was Walt's goodbye to her and what can you say after all the bullcrap they've been through together? I dunno, there was a lot of weight to that "I'm sorry".Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
I also think that Walt taking Holly was kind of the furthest thing from DICK MOVE that he's pulled in this episode, let alone in this show. Biggest Dick Move award during this episode goes to giving the go ahead for Jesse's execution and then his torture + revealing that he allowed Jane to die. Walt is a monster, how is that not clear already? He is morally bankrupt, he's delusional, he's almost psychotic in his need to be in control and show his power over others and he's a murderer. That's what makes him a fascinating character.
Also, quick interesting side note, Holly's "mamamama" was totally unscripted! The little babe just started saying that and Bryan Cranston rolled with it. Emmy for the baby!
The entire impetus behind this show is that we are given a man who has been knocked on his ass by life, and he decides to kick it right back in the teeth. Due to poor judgment and / or undisclosed relationship issues, he left Grey Matter. The entire reason this sub-plot was even introduced was to demonstrate how completely smurfed Walt had been by life up until this point. Cancer is the straw that breaks the camel's back. He decides to rebel. Evil happens. That's it. It would be ridiculous to go back to Grey Matter at this point. I don't count it out as a possibility completely, but if they do decide to do this, then that's just weak on their part. I have faith that the writers of this show will not include this in the last two episodes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
To do what you said would almost make the entire progression of the show for moot, and would be absurd.
Who is claiming otherwise, exactly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
Oh please. She wasn't put in to the situation. She WENT in knowingly. She had the chance to divorce him and did not once she found out he had a lot of money. She tolerated all of his manipulation and sociopathic behavior to keep the family together and keep the money, but in the end she is also evil. She'd rather frame her own brother in law and kill Jesse than to be implicated for money laundering. They're both pretty horrible people. At no point did she pick up that phone after finding out he's a drug dealer, and call the police knowing full well what danger her family could be in for deciding to walk with the devil. One of the worse things about her is that she is a coward with no balls despite her character having gumption. Hate people like her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
It's interesting that all of the characters broke bad in some way except for Flynn, Marie, and Holly.
Wasn't Marie a thief? Also she tried to kidnap Holly. (admittedly to save her)Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyOh please. She wasn't put in to the situation. She WENT in knowingly. She had the chance to divorce him and did not once she found out he had a lot of money. She tolerated all of his manipulation and sociopathic behavior to keep the family together and keep the money, but in the end she is is also evil. She'd rather frame her own brother in law and kill Jesse than to be implicated for money laundering. They're both pretty horrible people. At no point did she pick up that phone after finding out he's a drug dealer, and call the police knowing full well what danger her family could be in for deciding to walk with the devil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
It's interesting that all of the characters broke bad in some way except for Flynn, Marie, and Holly.
Then she made Skyler admit to Walt Jr. about Walter. That was pretty dominating.
Not sure if you're joking. Really hope you're not trying to compare shoplifting to what all of the other smurfbags in this show have been doing.
I think we interpret the term Breaking Bad in different ways. I'm probably using the wrong definition.Quote:
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As to the first part, you answered your own question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
As to the second, she was under the impression that Hank had Walt in custody. It's much better to hear the truth from your own mother and aunt than from the media frenzy that would have certainly surrounded Walt's arrest.
Marie's shoplifting is something that would have existed independently of the events of the series. She shoplifted the tiara for Holly in Season 1 without any sort of inkling as to what was going on. What exacerbated her compulsion? Hank's obsession with catching Heisenberg and neglect of family life, which ultimately led to him "breaking bad", and his own death, if you want to take it that far.Quote:
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I see no bad in Marie wanting Walt Jr. to know the truth. He deserved to know. All my other opinions about this pretty much the same as Red Pill's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic ChieWasn't Marie a thief? Also she tried to kidnap Holly. (admittedly to save her)Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyOh please. She wasn't put in to the situation. She WENT in knowingly. She had the chance to divorce him and did not once she found out he had a lot of money. She tolerated all of his manipulation and sociopathic behavior to keep the family together and keep the money, but in the end she is is also evil. She'd rather frame her own brother in law and kill Jesse than to be implicated for money laundering. They're both pretty horrible people. At no point did she pick up that phone after finding out he's a drug dealer, and call the police knowing full well what danger her family could be in for deciding to walk with the devil.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
It's interesting that all of the characters broke bad in some way except for Flynn, Marie, and Holly.
Then she made Skyler admit to Walt Jr. about Walter. That was pretty dominating.
As much as I dislike Marie, because of her pain in the ass personality and criminal mischief being a thorn in Hank's side, she is one of the most moral characters on the show.
She is doing the right thing in this last episode. She wants to stop beating around the bush and tell Walter Jr what he'll inevitably find out. His father is an evil man and will ( and has before, he just didn't know it) put him in danger.
Skyler, however, is a different story. At this point she is all but Mrs. Heisenberg.
She laundered his money, she is just fine with putting a hit out on Jessie and shes just fine with knowing that Walter is connected to other murders. She doesn't draw the line until Walter's actions get her sister's husband murdered by white supremacist mercenaries. Shes weak. Also, she smurfed Ted.Quote:
"We've come this far. For us. What's one more?" - Skyler to Walt in 'Rabid Dog'
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Okay, you've convinced me.
On a related note. I hope Todd gets shot in the head by a kid on a bike.
Walt and Skylar both love to reveal things to people to hurt them and then walk away.
Walt: "I watched Jane die." *walks away*
Skylar: "I smurfed Ted." *walks away with the salad bowl*
That show is evil. I watched it a few weeks ago. I'm sitting here, nursing my baby, and they start an episode with a baby dying of SIDS. I hardly slept for a week after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
I never said anything about Skyler not being complicit in the wheeling and dealings of the meth business. Of course she was. I was responding to YOU saying that Skyler's "I'm sorry" was somehow a pathetic wife reacting to a abusive husband. I was pointing out that it's not that simple, and that I thought you missed some key nuances in that conversation. That was the whole point of the phone conversation. Skyler was neck deep in it and Walt was trying to put all the blame on himself. Her "I'm sorry" wasn't just about apologizing to an abuser, like you suggested. It was about a lot of different things. Including in my opinion, her letting Walt know that she understood what he was doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyOh please. She wasn't put in to the situation. She WENT in knowingly. She had the chance to divorce him and did not once she found out he had a lot of money. She tolerated all of his manipulation and sociopathic behavior to keep the family together and keep the money, but in the end she is also evil. She'd rather frame her own brother in law and kill Jesse than to be implicated for money laundering. They're both pretty horrible people. At no point did she pick up that phone after finding out he's a drug dealer, and call the police knowing full well what danger her family could be in for deciding to walk with the devil. One of the worse things about her is that she is a coward with no balls despite her character having gumption. Hate people like her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miriel
It's interesting that all of the characters broke bad in some way except for Flynn, Marie, and Holly.
As for the specific part you quoted from my post, I would say that at various points, Skyler WAS afraid of Walt. Including in this episode where I think she really believed that Walt murdered Hank, leading to the knife fight. She thought she had to defend against Walt, which is something she's felt before. Hank was the line for everyone. For Walt AND for Skyler. Skyler thought he crossed the line and murdered Hank, which meant that everything was out the window.
I re-watched the phone call scene last night. Man is that a great piece of television. Bryan Cranston eats the scene and trouts emmys.
Its so complex. There is obvious subtext to the over-the-top-heisenberg things that Walt is saying to her, but I feel there is some honesty to it as well. Particularly his line about her telling Walter Jr what he does. We've seen Walter do this before. He can't simply express his emotions unless he can mask them under some 'move' or ulterior motive.
( Another possible example of this is when he confesses to watching Jane die to Jesse. He's obviously angry and blaming Jesse for the death of Hank, but I think he was also trying to finally release his guilt he's been carrying in what could possibly be the last time he sees Jesse alive. )
Watch Walter's demeanor up until Skyler's apology. This is the point where he turns from poker face to practically breaking down while he's spouting his threats.
The line "You're never going to see Hank again" is heartbreaking.
Well hot damn. Looks like they will find a way to explain what happened at Gray Matter after all, but not sure if it will be in a flashback (I hope not) or when Walt encounters them. They did say they were going to tie up all loose ends. This finale is going to be awesome. Guess he has other plans for that big ass gun...but I still think the skinheads are his main targets.
Jesus Christ. That episode was everything I hoped for and more. Ozymandias was great, but the phone call to Flynn, for me, was the saddest part of the entire series. So far, I guess. Also, the part where he gives the dude $10,000 to stay and play cards with him was so pathetic and lonely that I couldn't help but feel bad for him.
As for the Grey Matter business, I think that's as far as it will go. We thought Heisenberg was finally dead, but that final shot to his ego was enough to re-awaken the monster. More importantly, Charlie Rose mentions that the Blue Meth is still circulating, so he's aware that Jesse is still alive and cooking for the Nazis. I really hope that they won't go into Grey Matter any further. Some people think the ricin and / or M60 is for Gretchen and Elliot now, but I think that would be out of place and weak writing. Let it stay the plot point that incited Walt to return to ABQ and leave it at that.
I don't know what I'm going to do after this show is over. I don't think I've ever been so engrossed by a piece of media, and I doubt I ever will be again.
It seems like a ton of loose ends to tie up in one last 54 minute episode. I have no clue how it can be pulled off effectively, and am kind of curious if they won't give another extension for the finale. After Ozmandias, I was not nearly as impressed with this episode.
I actually liked this episode better than the previous one.
Yeah I felt bad for Walt at the cards moment as well and then of course it shifts back to making him revengeful. It makes me think that the ending can go either way. We will either be sympathetic to Walt or we will completely hate him.
Also I think there will be better writing than this. Maybe not better shows, but who knows? One thing I can say is that I don't think Bryan Cranston is ever going to get another role to top this one.
A very good penultimate episode, which sets up the finale nicely. Seeing Walt go through such a transformation in one episode was very interesting.
I can't stop laughing at these. Oh, Meth Damon.
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Speculative Spoiler for the Final EpisodeThere were reports a while ago that the actress for Gretchen had been in Albuquerque reprising her role in Breaking Bad. This is interesting to note as her scene in last night's episode was confirmed as having been filmed in New York. I'm not sure how, but it very much seems that she will appear in the last episode.
She's going to cook Grey meth.
I went into this thinking it was the last episode and by the last five minutes I was basically about to throw things.
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Hi Breaking Bad thread. We've not met. Until a month ago I had never seen a single episode. Well, after being laid off with work with a bad back I thought I'd give it a try and today I just finished every episode bar the one that is being aired tonight. smurf me.
What a transformation. Absolutely loving that dorky science teacher who is in over his head, those two gangsters to start, then Tuco, Gus, Mike, and welp, he truly is the Danger, smurf this guy. smurf me, Hank. Nice Fortune comment Del, I dig it. Unless they somehow smurf it up spectacularly, this is such the antithesis of how Dexter went which ended up being a disappointment. I pity poor Walt now.
Can't wait to see how it ends!
Oh yeah, and are we all agreed the random Mariachi band at the start of an episode for no apparent reason whatsoever remains the best moment? Cool, thanks.
I started binge watching and had never even heard of the series until around mid August.
Won't be long now!
I loved the finale, but my only pick is how did Walt know she liked Stevia? When did he have tea with her? Also "My Way" would've also been a fitting end song.
Even though it was all predictable, it was still a good watch. Great shots. Reminded a lot of Pulp Fiction.
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Originally Posted by Shiny
and i dont think my way would've been good
especially a sinatra version
walt's not that kind of classy.
He explicitly said he met her there every Tuesday at 10am when they were working together. I swear to god, Shiny, sometimes--Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
Finale wrapped everything up nicely but lacked the wtf moments that made this show great.
I liked it a lot, but I'll have to do a re-watch tomorrow some time. I was expecting something more, but I don't really know what. Everything was tied up nicely, and I can't really complain. Guess it's time to find another show now.
I was very happy with how this show ended.
Del: I kind of felt that the show set itself up in a way that whatever happened, no matter how extreme, was never going to be a real shock.
Maybe, but what actually happened felt very vanilla and basically checked off all the boxes with nothing more. However, it was done in a well-written way. Let's put it this way, there's nothing about the finale that I have the desire to rewatch, unlike much of the rest of the show.
I was asking because I couldn't remember you grumpy gint. I was also multi tasking while I was watching this episode. It moved really slowly. Season four is still the best season, but I am very satisfied with how things turned out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShlupHe explicitly said he met her there every Tuesday at 10am when they were working together. I swear to god, Shiny, sometimes--Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
Also My Way is awesome for Walt. Look up a video on YouTube featuring Walt and the song. I am on my mobile so can't link properly at the moment.
I thought it was very conventional. I mean, it was fine. It wrapped most stuff up.
But it was disappointing to me. I thought there would have been at least one jaw dropping moment, and there wasn't. I thought they would have done something with Walt Jr. and they didn't, I thought Walt's end would come about in a more dramatic way. Everyone knew that Walt was gonna take out the Nazis so that wasn't very exciting. Even the ricin's use at the end was kinda boring. Jessie's "resolution" of getting away from the compound was the most disappointing of all the storylines I think although Skyler's was pretty meh too.
That being said, there was nothing bad about the finale. It checked all the boxes and wrapped up the series like it was supposed to. And I did appreciate Walt saying goodbye to the meth lab and his admission finally that it was all for him.
I can see why they did it this way though. This way, while almost everything is wrapped up, they left a LOT of room for viewers to come up with their own ideas of how everyone ended up.
I guess I kinda wanted to see them do something more ballsy and maybe even rage inducing. :p To do a ending that made people feel excited or angry or utterly depressed, or insanely happy. Some sort of extreme reaction.
I liked the ending. I feel that if they tried to so something twisty or whatever, it really would have come off as pandering or trying too hard. After what Walt has been through his behavior and planning made a lot of sense. It was how the show should have ended.
The jack-in-a-box-smurf-you-Nazis was delicious. No problems whatsoever with it. Not everything needs a twist.
I agree with Miriel's points on some level, but I still really liked it this way. It wasn't extraordinary but it was a solid ending that I still really enjoyed.
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Made a BB poll.
I agree with Del and Miriel. The finale was a solid episode overall, but was very neat and tidy for a Breaking Bad episode ("conventional" is a good way to describe it). Everything worked out better than I expected it to, and there were no real shocking moments or twists. It was a little anticlimactic.
When Skyler said "Five minutes," I got chills. When Walt tackled Jesse, I did a little butt jiggle. And when Jesse killed Todd I did a significant butt jiggle. I'm satisfied.
Yeah, concur with "not everything needs a twist". This isn't M. Night Shymalan's Breaking Bad and thank god for that.
Walter White's father is revealed to be Meth Vader.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiny
I just finished watching this season, and I thought the ending was great. Walt got his catharsis and Jesse got to drive off to freedom. The whole series was incredible, so I didn't think they needed to do anything more for the sake of being stunning or edgy.
There's just one thing...
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Originally Posted by Calliope
It didn't need to have a twist. Hank dying wasn't a twist but it was still jaw dropping and heartbreaking.
I just thought it could have been more intense or more dramatic. I guess I wanted it to be more emotional than it was.
I also don't think that having a different ending would have been done for shock value. There's a lot of different ways this could have gone down. And ultimately, it went down in a more quiet way that I would have expected. Walt gets accidentally hit by a stray bullet and bleeds out. Anyone who says that this was the only way to end the series is kinda bonkers imho.
Like I said, it was fine. There was nothing wrong with the finale. But it didn't have the emotional impact I was hoping for. Which maybe was the point? Walt was spent and exhausted at the end. So was Skyler. So was Jessie. All the grief and outrage and scrambling happened before the finale. I was super tense going into the finale, totally wired up expecting some intense roller coaster. And it felt a little like I was coiled up for nothing. Instead, I should have been more prepared for a mellow, winding down kind of ride. Which if someone had said to me months before was how the series would end, I wouldn't have believed them.
I'm not surprised that people are satisfied with the ending. It was very satisfactory. Bad guys we wanted to die, died. People we wanted to see set free were set free. Resolutions we wanted were had. But I am surprised by the number of people who seem to think that this was the only way it could have ended. I wonder if people would have said that regardless of which scenario they chose to end the series.
I would have preferred that he died of cancer, personally. The catalyst that started this should've taken him out.
Miriel, who are all these people who think that there was only one way to end the series?
I would have actually preferred if he got shot in the lung. Double own.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
Same. In fact I was sure that's how it would go down. A stray bullet isn't a fitting enough death for Heisenberg!Quote:
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These are awesome! More please, lol.
one man's quest to write scripts for the new star trek movies
The finale was perfect in my mind. When Walt raised his hand to cue the lasers on Gretchen and Elliot I got chills. The M60 in the trunk was awesome enough to make up for the retarded gunfight with the Nazis and Hank. I loved when Jack was like "You'll never know where the money is if you pull that trigger-" BAM.
Goodbye to an incredible show.
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Perhaps one of the greatest shows to grace the box. I think the ending was more then satisfying. It concluded what was and will be regarded as a great show. Walt brought it on himself, but it was still....sad to see him go. Thumps up for Todd's finale! Hellz yea. Kudos to the show's finale title, Felina, meaning blood, meth and tears. :p
I agree. Also, I'd say Jesse definitely got some catharsis too whilst strangling Todd with the same chains he'd been enslaved with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliope
I give you two of the best bounty hunters west of the Mississippi :D
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Maybe the fact that he died from his own bullet means something? I don't know, just grasping at straws here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Del MurderSame. In fact I was sure that's how it would go down. A stray bullet isn't a fitting enough death for Heisenberg!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shlup
That's just what poor people say to make themselves feel better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliope
I haven't watched a single episode of Breaking Bad. As soon as I'm done with season 3 of The Walking Dead, I have season 1 of Breaking Bad to watch. I want to see what all the fuss is about and if it's awful, I'm blaming all of you.
Was a brilliant show, one of the best ever, not sure why Walter White constantly gets dubbed as the series 'protagonist and antagonist' though. Sure he did some terrible things but protagonists and anti-heroes from other shows and media commit just as bad acts and seem more inherently 'evil' and don't seem to get labeled 'antagonist' ( I'm thinking Al Swearengen from Deadwood and Kain from LoK as the 2 that spring to mind first but there are tons obviously).
Maybe it's th fact that Walter started out as such a white-bread, mr. nice guy perhaps?
You can't be a drug kingpin and also be a 'good guy'.
I always considered it the portrayal of him turning bad that makes this show what it is, not so much the fact that he does turn bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marky Tee
If you can get through the early seasons of "The Walking Dead", I think you'll be pleasantly surprised by the level of quality on "Breaking Bad".Quote:
Originally Posted by Jess
I think we're safe :D
An alternate ending for Breaking Bad has just been released. I encourage everyone to watch it!
He's Still there.
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When did he turn into a gorilla?Quote:
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And it's already gone! This happened yesterday too.
Dammit! Well, I hope everyone watches it eventually, given that it's an AMC video and isn't just a fan compilation (although there has been plenty of amazing fan stuff too).
I barely missed it yesterday, so I got all excited this time, lol. It will pop back up sooner or later hopefully.
It was really good, If you see it floating around, you have to watch it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elskidor
Found it..
Watch the Breaking Bad Alternate Ending!
Ahahaha the back door thing caught me off guard, that was great.
I though the fan version of that was just going around again, but that was adorable... And then it got a little creepy.
I think the intent was to copy the first episode of Breaking Bad, (I think it was the first one), when Walt decides to make a move on Skylar to do the dirty late at night.
I know that, but when Hal does it it's just creepy.
Looking back at these posts reminds me what a great show this truly was. In terms of dramas, I don't think television will be able to top it.
I hold it pretty damn high. I find it better than a ton of other dramas, but it's not the drama to end all other dramas. It's up there with the best, but it doesn't stand alone above all others either.
Do you have any examples of better ones? I don't think I can think of any.
Personally I love Sopranos, The Wire and LOST too. I've heard great things about GoT, but have not gotten around to watching it yet.
Ah, I haven't seen any of those except GoT, which may be my favorite show ever. I've considered watching LOST, but I heard the ending is infuriating.
Lost is great at keeping you hooked and curious, but outside that I wouldn't actually say its writing has all that great quality. Nowhere near the level of Breaking Bad's writing, at least.
Yeah, but you end up loving most of the characters though.
Yeah. I guess to me Lost is more an "in-the-moment" show. Like, I enjoy it when I'm watching, but I never really think back on it afterwards and go "man, that was great".
I might go back and watch the series like this eventually, but not for the overall plot. In the meantime, I will never stop talking about Breaking Bad.
That's funny!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliope
Yeah, the final season actually made me mad with LOST, but I know many loved it so I'm not trying to ruin the show as a whole by bashing the end. Seasons 1-5 kept me completely on the edge of my seat engrossed in it's story and mystery, and I've gone back to the show a few times since it ended. And some of the acting on it is just terrific.
I got a late start on watching Breaking Bad, and did not actually pick it up until this year...I've already seen it three times from beginning to end, lol. If I can find a good place to binge watch GoT then I'd like to do that sometime over Thanksgiving weekend, but the load times on a lot of these freebie sites is horrific for GoT and even other HBO shows.
The first season of Prison Break is better than Breaking Bad.
Lost is NOT a good show, it's just an addictive show made purely for trolling their viewers and entertainment purposes. The Sopranos was good for what it was and had great acting, but still not better writing than Breaking Bad. I have yet to see The Wire or Game of Thrones, but those are next on my list. I've heard really good things about both of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elskidor
An opinion, and a terribly wrong opinion. ;) But it is not a good show. It is a great show though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyLost is NOT a good showQuote:
Originally Posted by Elskidor
Lost season 1 is as good as television gets, really. Not as good as Prison Break, though.
Lost was terrific. For the First season. The second season was okay. From the third on, they should have changed the title.
Still pissed about Charlie not swimming out the window or letting the water go through the room.
Also, why didn't they ever explain the numbers?
They didn't explain it because J.J. Abrams and the rest of the writers are hacks.
