I hate salads made of lettuce. I will eat salads with spinach only.
I hate that pasta salads are called salads. It doesn't make sense. :stare:
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I hate salads made of lettuce. I will eat salads with spinach only.
I hate that pasta salads are called salads. It doesn't make sense. :stare:
Meat Salad :greenie:
Lettuce comes in many forms. It doesn't have to be iceberg lettuce (which, yes, is just worthless filler).
What the hell, iceburg lettuce is the best kind of lettuce.
The best salad is clearly potato salad.
Iceberg sucks.
Iceberg is flavourless and basically devoid of nutritional value. Romaine and Baby Spinach are where it's at for salads.
I like iceberg cause it's fresh and stuff but there are better ones in terms of flavour!
Crab Salad is to die for.
What about fruit salads ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shorty
Also weird!
You don't make salad with fruit. You make a bowl full of fruit with fruit. :colbert:
no, you are weird
All salads are pretty good. I don't think I'd turn down anything put up in this thread yet. :3
Iceberg lettuce is amazing, baby spinach is okay, rocket is nice but too bitter to just have a bowl full of. Various Italian style salads are the best though, iceberg and red cabbage or tomato and fennel.
And Vivi is officially insane
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Originally Posted by Vivi22
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Originally Posted by Nutrition Data
Spinach definitely. It's a staple in my fridge. I love spinach so much.
I also can dig romaine lettuce, but I rarely buy it. I'll buy spring mix if i want something different.
I also wont use regular salad dressing. I'll squeeze a bit of lime on top instead and toss it in that.
That's just false. Iceberg lettuce has basically zero nutritional value. Please compare the vitamin/nutrient content with, say, romaine lettuce or spinach. Go ahead and post the numbers here for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy
A pretty accurate rule is the whiter the leafy "green" is the less nutritional value it has. And being "low in sodium, fat, and cholesterol" is not "having nutritional value." Air is really low in all three of those.
I didn't say it was better than romaine so there's no reason to compare the two, he said it was devoid of nutritional value and it isn't.
Iceberg lettuce has less nutritional value compared to any other form of lettuce I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy
As for the stuff above, I could run through it one at a time if you'd like.
Low in sodium, saturated fat and cholesterol: it's lettuce for one so no trout. Second, none of that actually matters all that much.
Thiamin: This is in pretty much everything you'll eat anyway, but 100g of iceberg lettuce only has 3% of your daily requirement. You'll find almost double the amount in romaine lettuce, quadruple in beef liver, and triple for a 100g steak as well. It's a source sure, but there's no shortage of better ones for the same mass of food.
Vitamin B6: Iceberg lettuce has 2% of your daily value in 100g. Using the same examples as above, Romaine has 4%, Liver has 51%, and Steak has 22%. If you're concerned about Vitamin B6, then Romaine is literally twice as good as Iceberg, but neither is a good source at all relatively speaking. Unless you like the idea of eating 5kg of Iceberg lettuce a day to get it (a bit of hyperbole there of course).
Iron: So Iceberg comes in at 2%, Romaine at 5%, and both lose quite handily to dead animals. In the case of Iceberg lettuce, it's losing by an order of magnitude or more.
Potassium: You know what, let's skip the percentages. Iceberg has next to nothing again, Romaine is double Iceberg, and the meats coming in at 5 times the amount of potassium. I'm sensing a trend in all of these.
Dietary Fiber is more of the same, though obviously the meat doesn't rank here since meat isn't known for it's fiber content. Vitamin A, Iceberg is at 10%, Romaine at 174%, and Liver at 634%. Vitamin C, Iceberg is at 5%, Romaine at 40%. Or you could just eat a damn orange and get 201%. For Vitamin K, Iceberg is at 30%, but again, eat the same amount of Romaine and you're done for the day. Folate, Iceberg clocks in at 7%, Romaine at 34%, Liver is at a whopping 63%. And finally, for Manganese, the slight edge goes to Romaine, and Liver beats them both and steals their lunch money.
Those are just a few examples, but I think I made my point. Iceberg isn't as good a source for any of those as even Romaine lettuce. And as soon as we bring other foods into the mix we see that for most of those nutrients calling Iceberg a good source is stretching the truth a bit to say the least.
EDIT: I didn't say it was devoid of all nutritional value, I said it basically was. Which most people would rightly take to mean it isn't devoid, but it's close enough that it's not worth bothering with it unless you really, really like eating it. Yes, there's some in there, but it's a terrible source for just about anything the body needs.
Also, don't just go to some random Yahoo Answers page trying to make a point. That person doesn't even say where they're getting their information, nor do they quantify much beyond simply saying "it's good." Pretty much nothing on that page is actually useful for judging Iceberg lettuces nutritional value. You can't just analyze it in a vacuum, you have to look at the actual values and compare to other sources to learn anything meaningful about it.
But it IS basically devoid of nutritional value. Listen, everything has SOME nutritional value. Iceberg lettuce has massively less than any similar food.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy
Here's a slightly better source than "voices.yahoo.com":
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Iceburg lettuce isn't food; it's crunch. Everyone likes crunch though.
I don't usually like pasta salad, but my friend made some for my baby shower and it was amazing.
Iceberg Lettuce is like.. Crunchy Water. XD
Plus it wilts and goes bad a lot quicker once you open the bag up.. If you buy it bagged, anyway. Or at least... That's what -I- always think.
Lettuce wilts more easily with more exposure to air and/or heat. It needs to hold water (which is what causes it in the first place) so exposure to fridge air (which really sucks the moisture out of things) will do it pretty fast.
Holy heck just two pages into a Salad thread and we're all arguing over bloody Iceberg Lettuce :p
I actually happen to like Iceberg lettuce, but really when it comes to salads, I like them simple. I mean, I really don't like Potato Salad. Pasta Salad is palatable to me, but not really what I'd choose to eat.
Lettuce is serious business Formy. :colbert:
No way. Of all the potato salads I've eaten, only one was good... and it's because the real hero of the dish was the bacon. Real chunks of perfectly cripsy and smooth baconQuote:
Originally Posted by Loony BoB
increase your posts per page already wtf. 25 posts should never be "2 pages" unless you're on dialup (and when i was i still used 30-50 ppp)Quote:
Originally Posted by Formalhaut
i like salads made of various greens. iceberg lettuce is crunchy.
i don't really care for pasta salad. potato salad is ok but it's not something i'd eat all the time (it also depends on what the potato salad is like)
Right, but even with the bag opened and then like folded over (like my dad has a bad habit of doing 'cuz he knows nothing about food preservation), the iceberg willwilt and then turn brown and gross. Of course it happens with spinach too, but I just always thought that iceberg does it quicker than spinach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spuuky
Pre-packaged goods are vacuum-sealed. If you open the bag, the bag gets air in it. It'll still wilt more slowly if you fold it up, but it won't stop it from wilting, and it'll do it a lot faster than in its vacuum-wrapped state.Quote:
Originally Posted by noxious.sunshine
Iceberg does it faster than spinach because iceberg is more water-heavy.
Romaine and Spinach are my choice, personally.
I will join in on the love of spinach! It is my preferred green for sandwiches.
Arugula is nice too! Radicchio is a bit bitter but when complemented nicely it can go well with stuff (I feel the same about endives too). I do not mind leafy green either. A nice mescaline/mixed green is alright, though Caesar salad is definitely my favourite lettuce-salad. Potato salad is the bomb. Also, my boyfriend makes the best Greek salad ever, but then again he is Greek, so yeah...
Um...that site you linked to says the exact same thing I quoted in my very first post, the same thing that spuuky said was "just false". It also receives a 5 star rating for optimum health from the site you used and scores at just about the top of the chart for nutritional value to fullness factor, which doesn't sound so bad. You can take it up with them if you have a problem with it but as that seems to be where you're getting all your facts from I assume they get the okay from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22Iceberg lettuce has less nutritional value compared to any other form of lettuce I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy
As for the stuff above, I could run through it one at a time if you'd like.
Low in sodium, saturated fat and cholesterol: it's lettuce for one so no trout. Second, none of that actually matters all that much.
Thiamin: This is in pretty much everything you'll eat anyway, but 100g of iceberg lettuce only has 3% of your daily requirement. You'll find almost double the amount in romaine lettuce, quadruple in beef liver, and triple for a 100g steak as well. It's a source sure, but there's no shortage of better ones for the same mass of food.
I also like how you stopped using percentages before you got to vitamin C, which iceberg gives you 3% of your DI for (romaine/cos gives 2%), folate (iceberg has 5%, romaine has 2%). manganese (iceberg 4%, romaine 0%), or vitamin K (iceberg 22%, romaine 8%). In fact there isn't a single mineral in a portion of romaine lettuce that gives you even a 1% increase toward your recommended daily intake, while iceberg has 8.
And all of that is comparing the two lettuces which I specifically said I did not want to do in the first place sosmurfthank you so much for dragging me into a petty, fact spouting, internet argument. That said, I really can't wait to hear your next condescending, elitist and downright rude rebuttal though, I'm waiting with baited breath :up:
Well, this has gone down like the Titanic....
:shobon:
ps.
I want all the rep for that.
also
eyesonlettuceexperts.com
oh my god guys it's just smurfing leaves
Yeah, everyone should just leave this argument right now.
why don't we make like a tree and get out of here
Nah, I think I will stay. Just cos.
Go ahead and click on those links and set the quantity to 100g for each instead of comparing the default of 72g of iceberg lettuce and 6g of Romaine, then feel free to take another crack at this. If you're not comparing the equivalent amounts as I was when I checked every single nutrient and mineral you mentioned in your quote that quantified nothing, then you can't draw a useful conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Noodle BoyUm...that site you linked to says the exact same thing I quoted in my very first post, the same thing that spuuky said was "just false". It also receives a 5 star rating for optimum health from the site you used and scores at just about the top of the chart for nutritional value to fullness factor, which doesn't sound so bad. You can take it up with them if you have a problem with it but as that seems to be where you're getting all your facts from I assume they get the okay from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivi22Iceberg lettuce has less nutritional value compared to any other form of lettuce I know of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy Noodle Boy
As for the stuff above, I could run through it one at a time if you'd like.
Low in sodium, saturated fat and cholesterol: it's lettuce for one so no trout. Second, none of that actually matters all that much.
Thiamin: This is in pretty much everything you'll eat anyway, but 100g of iceberg lettuce only has 3% of your daily requirement. You'll find almost double the amount in romaine lettuce, quadruple in beef liver, and triple for a 100g steak as well. It's a source sure, but there's no shortage of better ones for the same mass of food.
I also like how you stopped using percentages before you got to vitamin C, which iceberg gives you 3% of your DI for (romaine/cos gives 2%), folate (iceberg has 5%, romaine has 2%). manganese (iceberg 4%, romaine 0%), or vitamin K (iceberg 22%, romaine 8%). In fact there isn't a single mineral in a portion of romaine lettuce that gives you even a 1% increase toward your recommended daily intake, while iceberg has 8.
And all of that is comparing the two lettuces which I specifically said I did not want to do in the first place sosmurfthank you so much for dragging me into a petty, fact spouting, internet argument. That said, I really can't wait to hear your next condescending, elitist and downright rude rebuttal though, I'm waiting with baited breath :up:
Also, I couldn't care less if that site claims iceberg is a good source of all of the things you mentioned or gives it five stars for being healthy because those are utterly meaningless, especially since the numbers show that it's worse than Romaine and quite a few other foods in every single category you mentioned.
Lettuce be thankful for this radicchiolous argument.
:roll2
Forgive me for wanting people to actually use facts to back up statements they make rather than "some person on the internet said..."
:roll2
And also forgive me if I like to back up my statements with facts when someone decides to call me insane for stating something that's true. If my taking it personally when someone calls me insane bothers you then that's too smurfing bad quite frankly. We're all (or most of us anyway) adults here. If two people debating is honestly so unbearable then I suggest sucking it up and moving on because I really don't give a trout.
I'm not taking it personally, I'm just making trout puns about what is most definitely, a nitpicky argument.
Feel free to take it up with your boyfriend then.
I probably will. We'll have a laugh about it all day. Just have a laugh about it.
I think I might go grab the iceburg lettuce out of the fridge and throw it at him, while laughing at him for being so serious about an internet argument. Because it's funny. It's funny, just laugh about it instead
Laugh about what? Phil calling me insane and coming off as a bit of a dick? Sure, I'll go have a grand old laugh about that.
I just want to point out that you've called me insane before, then told me I didn't have a right to get angry about it. Remember the Mars thread? xD People on EoFF call each other insane and crazy all the time, and rarely is it ever a real insult.
It's just lettuce. Does it really matter what preference Phil has?
I dunno about iceberg lettuce for people but I do know that giving it to animals that eat greens (such as guinea pigs) isn't highly recommended. I think it had to do with sugar content. When I worked at a pet store we fed them romaine. But that's besides the point because baby spinach is the best base for a salad IMO. Toss in some cherry tomatoes, eggs, chicken and cheese and you are set :up:
lol
omg
holy crap, you guys argue about the dumbest things.
i eat a spinach and romaine salad with strawberries, blueberries, a sauvignon-blanc/tarragon vinaigrette, and toasted hazelnuts every day. it tastes amazing and won't kill me.
Meh, iceberg lettuce. I prefer baby spinach or Romaine lettuce with sun dried tomatoes, raisins, almonds, goat cheese, and Asian peanut dressing. Maybe chicken with that if I'm feeling frisky. :shiny:
Also I agree with Jowy, you guys argue about tedious thing. Stop arguing about dumb trout and get back on the topic of how amazing salad is.
Wtf cares what kind of lettuce or base is used in a salad? The best parts are things like tomatoes and even then the best part of a meal is still the meat. :p
Salad really takes off when you add the bacon bits
Look guys, I was frustrated and angry about something else entirely and I lashed out unfairly. Should be pretty obvious to most people that know me that something else must have been going on. I apologized shortly after and Locky was cool with it since she knows what's happening and we all moved on as one big happy EOFF family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx
You're all a bunch of mental patients.
Good. Freaking. Grief.
Spinach > Romaine > Iceberg.
There. Settled.
I have a huge bag of spinach in my fridge right meow. I haven't had it in ages it feels like. And I just.. omg how I missed it so.
Slice up some strawberries, lightly "pickle" some onion slices, fry some bacon, crumble up goat cheese, and squeeze lime juice on top. YEAH BUDDY. That junk is bomb.com for realz.
I prefer the term sociopath. :colbert:Quote:
Originally Posted by noxious.sunshine
oh my bad.
didn't mean to be politically incorrect.
Iceberg lettuce with garlic roasted croutons and bacon covered in ranch is the only way to eat salad.
I take back what I said about raisins in salads. Craisins are infinitely better.