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Haven't seen one of these threads in forever so lets talk about why Final Fantasy VII is the best in the series.
Aside from being the best game ever, it has now reached sales of 9.8m (highest amount of any final fantasy game).
Anyone who has a different opinion is clearly a jealous so n so who clearly doesn't recognize the true greatness that is Final Fantasy VII
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It was the best in the series. For about 5 years. :D
I'm glad we agree. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Karifean
Hell yeah
Who could not love those blocky lego graphics 8D
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Yes, now finish your Let's Play...
I am glad that so many stories and especially Final Fantasy can still impress me today, that the Fabula Nova Crystallis has become one of my favourites makes me very happy but always having my memories about Final Fantasy VII and getting to its Compilation will be the best Final Fantasy experience for me.
Does anyone know how many copies it has actually sold to date? The 9.8 million figure is like 5 years old and predates PSN and Steam versions. I'm sure it is well over 10 by now.
The 9.8M was actually the figure updated in November this year:Quote:
Originally Posted by VeloZer0
Final Fantasy VII (PlayStation) - Sales, Wiki, Cheats, Walkthrough, Release Date, Gameplay, ROM on VGChartz
Final Fantasy VII is one of those rare gems I don't think can ever be emulated. Well constructed story, fun gameplay, a loveable cast of characters and I'm pretty sure it made an entire generation of gamers cry at 'you know what'. It's also one of those games that pretty much had everything that could be said about it, said about it. Whether it was positive, negative, or general indifference, after sixteen years since it was released it's still being talked about. As well as the love triangle debate that is discussed with the same fire you would expect to see from religious and politic threads.
I only cried when it was over.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJ
-looks at the name-Quote:
Originally Posted by SephirothI only cried when it was over.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJ
Not surprising :P
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Originally Posted by ToriJ-looks at the name-Quote:
Originally Posted by SephirothI only cried when it was over.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToriJ
Not surprising :P
Actually it was not Sephiroth but everything and all ending (the Compilation did not exist at that time) with this and the endless universe:
Final Fantasy VII - Prelude [HQ] - YouTube
This game is the best in the series if only for the line
"Ok, dog, I'm gonna dog nap you."
Also Omnislash.
I'm sorry, but as much as I adore FF7, I think it was bested not only by FF9, but FF12 and it's own prequel, Crisis Core.
All three of those games had more of my time invested.
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Yes, it was. :shobon:
And easily by FFIV and FFVI, so that would put it at a level of mediocre. ;bQuote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
Your steadfast support warms my soul, I am so happy to find such like minded people on this site.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElskidorAnd easily beats FFIV and FFVI, so much so that those 2 games which in any normal circumstances are epic be reduced to mediocre. ;bQuote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Chie
I salute your steadfast support of what is clearly the best game ever to be created.
My opinion on FF7 is heavily biased by the fact that I didn't play it around the time it came out, but about 15 years later. As such, I knew Aeris was gonna die, and didn't establish any sort of emotional connection with her like I imagine I may have done as a 9 year old. When I did get around to playing it last year, one thing that immediately stuck out to me was loooooooooooad tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiimes. Most of the RPGs I had played previously were cartridge-based (earlier FFs, SMRPG, Pokemon, etc) and thus loading wasn't an issue; and the disc-based RPGs I had played (Baten Kaitos, FF Crystal Chronicles) loaded quickly. Now, I'll put some blame on the hardware here (I only had a PS1), but even if the battles loaded quickly, I'd still probably think the pace of the gameplay was on the slow side. I've thought this about FF9, too, so it's not just a problem with 7. But these are reasons why I prefer earlier FFs over 7.
I can see why people like FF7, it's just not my favorite. Show me an objective proof that FF7 is the best in the series, and I'll concede; until then, you're free to have your own opinion and other people are free to have theirs.
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Originally Posted by Denmark
Load times on Playstation are terrible. If you multiply the number of fights you have in a game with the load time you are looking at anywhere between 5 and 10 hours wasted. Even if you are a speed gamer and do little to grinding it's still an icky mess.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but isn't the longest load time the one where you load your save off the memory card and that's that? The load times may not be instantaneous, but it's pretty damn close, especially compared to later games. Sakaguchi also laid a ground rule that the team will have failed If the load times become noticeable. Honestly this is the first I've heard someone say this, so for 16 years of no complaints on the loads I'd say they did a Pretty good job!
Anyway, I thought IX surpassed it when it came out, but since then I feel that game plays it too safe and the combat is sluggish. X and XII were amazing in their own right. But imo 7 is has the most original story and setting in the series. It's also my favorite soundtrack with tons of variety. The combat is the most responsive with the best use of a battle camera to date. What seals the deal is the game's pacing, intermingling combat and plot revelations with a continuously fresh use of minigames to make every part unique. Games today settle too much into one gameplay format accompanied by voice acted narrative. And in the words of the series creator, the previous games are puppet shows compared Final Fantasy 7.
I just wish Wolf Kanno was here to dispute this :D
FF7 is without doubt the best. I pop on here every once and awhile to say a few words, so here's a current thought on the game: Highlighting the plot, music, every thematic juxtaposition and quirky moment, the imaginative yet relatable world and cast, and even the the presentation (unhindered by the sluggish combat we've seen in later PS1 entries), the game is the only one in the series to go beyond immersive story-telling and succeed as a meaningful (psychedelic, even) experience and as a bold artistic statement. I don't want to write an essay, but FF7 really speaks to the kind of alienation that I've long felt on a daily basis, as I've waded through the harsh and disorienting realities of the modern world. And I think that's what it's ultimately about: the search for wholeness of self, of a greater spirituality, and the struggle to defeat one's inner demons - fighting the tide - in a corrupt world where the human spirit at large is diminishing. To me, this kind of introspection makes most other entries feel trivial by comparison, and it certainly makes up for the game's weaknesses (messy programming, inconsistent graphics, rushed fourth act).