ToriJ plays: NationStates -- EoFF Edition

Inspired by Psychotic wrestling game.

NationStates allows you to run your own country and address various issues which develops your country accordingly. I felt like giving it another run using EoFF themes so you can find the nation here.

Everyday the game gives you a new issue to address. It's basically choosing between the best of a bunch of lousy options. You can dismiss it altogether, but then the country doesn't really develop so for this playthrough I'm going to address them all and see how things work out. Here's the default description the nation got once I got set up:

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The Community of EoFF is a fledgling, genial nation, notable for its complete lack of prisons. Its compassionate population of 5 million enjoy extensive civil rights and enjoy a level of social equality free from the usual accompanying government corruption.

The large government devotes most of its attentions to Social Welfare, with areas such as Law & Order and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 27%, but much higher for the wealthy. A robust private sector is led by the Information Technology, Gambling, and Uranium Mining industries.

Crime is relatively low. EoFF's national animal is the chocobo, and its currency is the gil.

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Now to get star-- good lord, I have four issues already.

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Should Democracy Be Compulsory? [unaddressed]
Nudists Demand Time In Sun [unaddressed]
Uranium Deposit Promises To Enrich EoFF [unaddressed]
Cloning Research Promises New Breakthrough [unaddressed]

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Why am I not surprised EoFF is involved in uranium and cloning research?

Yes on Uranium, cloning and nudity please.

i wanna be naked plz

In other words, you're this guy:

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"For too long, our bodies have been trapped in these prisons of cotton and polyester! We must repeal the puritanical laws that make public nudity a crime. My body--my choice to dangle!"

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well i don't have dangley bits but otherwise yes

Some legislation has just been passed.

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scientists regularly clone human beings for research purposes.

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citizens can be frequently spotted going about their business stark naked.

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voting is voluntary.

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the country's famous rainforests are being bulldozed by the mining industry.

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Well, that isn't so-- wait a minute.

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EoFF's national animal is the chocobo, which teeters on the brink of extinction due to widespread deforestation

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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE VIVI?!

chocobos suck i'm glad to see them go

also cloning nudests means a lot of naked me

What I've done is cut down on greenhouse gases by putting us on the path to nuclear power. You can thank me when global warming doesn't happen.

Not to derail ToriJ's thread, but I've started my own :bou::bou::bou::bou:ry. :3

NationStates | The Matriarchy of Samdinavia

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Originally Posted by Jinx

Not to derail ToriJ's thread, but I've started my own :bou::bou::bou::bou:ry. :3

NationStates | The Matriarchy of Samdinavia

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Civil Rights: Below Average
Economy: Struggling

:exdee:

Anyway, might as well play along: NationStates | The Empire of Vivisection

Hey, our political freedoms kick ass, though! And your economy isn't much better. ;)

I just want to point out that the spiritualism of Samdinavia is worshiping the Goddess and her glorious Uterus of Yoni Sisterhood. We burn Christians--and all who support the Patriarchy--at the stake.

(I might actually do a run of what I think would be the ideal government someday, but right now it's fun being ridiculous. :3)

To be fair on the economy thing, I made fun of you before actually making mine.

Okay. Haha.

Well, I have four issues of legislature pending! ToriJ, how long does it usually take to pass them? It says overnight...does it actually mean overnight?

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Originally Posted by Jinx

chocobos suck i'm glad to see them go

also cloning nudests means a lot of naked me

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pix or it didn't happen amirite guys

hopefully the uranium makes your hooters glow

My last four issues went through after two hours and I got a new issue immediately after that. Usually it is a day by day thing. If you have it set to two you get one per morning and one per afternoon.

Bah, next issue is a boring tax thing. I can either cut spending, tax the rich or let people choose what they spend their taxes on.

Let them choose!

They're going to spend it on something utterly ridiculous. Mark my words.

Haha, my new government!

NationStates | The Republic of Misery of Despair

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Originally Posted by Jinx

Haha, my new government!

NationStates | The Republic of Misery of Despair

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Leading cause of death: Heart Disease.

It's actually the Dictatorship of Misery of Despair.

My new theocracy:

NationStates | The Most Serene Republic of Jesus Ate My Baby

ToriJ, you've created a monster.

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Originally Posted by ToriJ

They're going to spend it on something utterly ridiculous. Mark my words.

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That's why you're supposed to tax the rich.

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Originally Posted by Jinx

ToriJ, you've created a monster.

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>implying you weren't a monster already.

I'm in.

NationStates | The Free Land of Kalevalastan

"Trout Farming" lul

Well

My last two:

NationStates | The United Socialist States of Left-Wing on the Way to Paradise
NationStates | The Democratic Republic of Samdinavia II (it should be noted that this is my honest-to-god government/my true choices)

womp womp

NationStates | The Free Land of PeeGees Playhouse

I can't help but feel I'm participating in some subtle political research here.

It's been years since I've messed around with that website, or at least it was something similar to this. I may have to get in on the bandwagon. I'm also imagining all of Jinx's nations declaring war on each other, haha.

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citizens select which government department gets their income tax gils each year.

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That was anti-climatic.

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Crime is relatively low.

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I'm sure that was in no way related to-- oh, who am I kidding.

Next issue is about the budget. Should we give more money to education, the military, health and social welfare or give everyone a tax cut?

EDUCATION

Education or Health and Social Welfare

If you're modeling this country after EoFF/EoEO, anyways.

Has anyone tried the ripple effect for your flag? It makes it look pretty good

That's my off-duty nation there to reflect my own choices. Though I get the feeling it wouldn't be too different from EoFF, I tend to lean towards the left anyway.

Edit: If you change your theme to conservative or liberal it has a new category based off an extreme right and left view. In the conservative view EoFF is categorized as 'Gay Marriage State'

Liberal categorizes us as 'Normal'

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a large-scale revitalization of the education system is underway.

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Next issue is basically whether or not to legalize euthanasia.

That texture effect is neat; I will have to update my national flag and the regional flag soon. It has been ages.

Yes, people should be able to kill themselves or have help in doing so. Legalize.

Both Jiro and I play, though we keep to different regions because his sucks and I am an elitist.
NationStates | The Aison Collaboration
NationStates | Kahanym Lryd

You can join Kahanym Lryd if you know how to write eyeson in Al Bhed.

got my own game going....

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Citizens can be frequently spotted going about their business stark naked, voting is voluntary, and meat-eating is frowned upon. Crime is totally unknown. Krabmeat's national animal is the Cobbsquatch, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the frog.

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100% approval rating, no lie.

cobbsquatch omg xD

Meanwhile, over in Essancee:

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voting is voluntary

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YAY!

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the nation is ravaged by daily union strikes

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Oh... Boo!

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the mining industry is making inroads into environmentally sensitive areas.

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Yay?

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political parties are banned from advertising and receiving private donations.

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Take THAT, political parties :colbert:

The mighty sloth is now on the menu as a Vivisection delicacy.

And crime is totally unknown in my country bitches. And that's with me spending almost nothing on Law & Order. I downloaded the seasons for free instead. /smug

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Originally Posted by Vivi22

I downloaded the seasons for free instead. /smug

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You monster!

The private sector makes up 15% of my GDP. You can imagine how I feel about copyright laws protecting those damn capitalist pigs.

Speaking of the capitalist pigs, they think my nation is hell on earth :cool:

Isn't it great. I just looked at my government spending and people.

No money to defense, 14% to Healthcare, 20% to Education, and 41% to welfare. As it should be. Only 24% to administration surprised me since it's the same percentage as Tori's EoFF nation.

And there are only three things that will kill you in my country: old age, acts of god and getting lost in the wilderness. And old age makes up 94% of those deaths. Ironic given I named my country Vivisection I guess.

Your economy is also a Basket Case. xD

Essancee
Deaths: 2% Acts of God
3% Lost in Wilderness
13% Murder
82% Old Age

Government: 7% Industry
18% Welfare/Healthcare/Education
39% Administration

Economy: 38% Public Sector
62% Private Sector

EoFF
Deaths: 2% Acts of God
6% Murder
40% Cancer
52% Old Age

Government: 2% Healthcare
7% Defense
21% Administration
31% Education
36% Welfare

Economy: 29% Public Sector
71% Private Sector.

I like the balance I got going in Essancee government spending. Get the feeling I should have put money in healthcare for EoFF.

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Originally Posted by Jinx

Your economy is also a Basket Case. xD

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That's why people are allowed to eat and sell sloth meat now. Also, everyone seems to be happy so I must be doing something right.

The Democratic Republic of Ashopia is a fledgling, safe nation, notable for its burgeoning Ferret population. Its compassionate, intelligent population of 5 million enjoy a sensible mix of personal and economic freedoms, while the political process is open and the people's right to vote held sacrosanct.
The enormous government concentrates mainly on Social Welfare, although Education and Healthcare are on the agenda. The average income tax rate is 29%, but much higher for the wealthy. A small but healthy private sector is led by the Cheese Exports industry, followed by Beef-Based Agriculture and Door-to-door Insurance Sales.
Crime is well under control. Ashopia's national animal is the Ferret, and its currency is the Ashi.

Am I doing it right?

Bungee Jumping contributed to 2% of my population's deaths.

That means 120,000 of the people alive in my country will die jumping off bridges.

Does that count as suicide?

Never had that for any of my nations so I have no idea.

Euthanasia is legal and now they want me to appoint a Spiritual Adviser. We can either have a Catholic, some New Age Thinker or a guy who will resign immediately after being appointed, AKA atheism.

My heart says New Age Spiritualism, but if we're following EoFF, it's atheism.

Definitely atheism.

Ya'll a bunch of godless heathens.

Thank you. :D

I'm doing the thing too, cause why not?

NationStates | The Nomadic Peoples of Taslvania

I got my political freedoms up to superb and I have no more murder! I also got my welfare and education spending up.

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the government is avowedly atheist.

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This comes as a surprise to no one.

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Some people say EoFF's policy on free speech has gone too far.

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Looks like someone has been reading EoEO.

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"These days, anyone says whatever they want with no regard to what kind of dribble is coming out of their mouths!"

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Definitely been reading EoEO.

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"It's gone too far. We should go back to the good old days, when if someone started talking garbage, we'd smack them one."

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No, Vivi, I can't give you free reign to smack people you disagree with.

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"We need more free speech, not less," argues civil rights campaigner Billy Singh. "Free speech allows ideas to be explored, challenged, and discussed in a productive, open forum. It teaches our kids to be critical thinkers. And dirty words, of course, but that's just the price you pay."

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Who the hell is Billy Singh?

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"The right to free speech is a central tenet of our system of democracy," says religious leader Maria Brown. "But surely the right to not have your religious beliefs mocked by others is worth something, too? We mustn't put up with intolerance!"

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Didn't you get the memo? THIS IS ATHEIST COUNTRY! *kicks Maria into a bottomless pit*

Definitely the first option. You can say whatever you want here, but if you're not of a certain opinion, you get a ton of trout for it.

Oh yeah, here is my link if anyone cares:

NationStates | The Democratic Republic of Ashopia

I just got a tax question that I found unpleasant so we'll see how that turns out.

It does say crime is totally unknown now so that's good :D

Hey Jinx: my economy is now good. And everything else has improved as well.

/smug

Yeah, my personal government is Excellent, Reasonable, Excellent. All of my other governments are craaaaaaaaaaay. My PG government is still the most amusing.

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Oh yeah, here is my link if anyone cares:

NationStates | The Democratic Republic of Ashopia

I just got a tax question that I found unpleasant so we'll see how that turns out.

It does say crime is totally unknown now so that's good :D

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New York Times Democracy! That was the first category I ever gotten when I first started playing this game way back.

Meanwhile, in The Republic of Essancee:

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all industry is owned and run by the government.

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Socialists! I'm also 87,353rd in the world for Largest Pizza Delivery Sector. EoFF is 68,179th in the same thing.

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The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising ten-year-olds selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out.

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Damn ten year olds.

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"I don't object to the amount of tax, I object to where it's being spent," says social reformer Colin Falopian. "I'd like to see everyone have a choice as to where their frogs go every time they fill out a tax return. Everyone would feel a lot better about opening their wallets if they had a say as to where the money went. I think you'd see a lot more public money going to education and a lot less to business."

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This paragraph had me really confused about the hip new slang kids are using today, until I remembered that my national currency is the frog. :I

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the right to free speech is being drastically curtailed.

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The next issues have to do with mandatory organ donation and interfering with television to reward people for positive portrayals of random minorities.

Look, it's America!

And an evil dictatorship Yet even they let gay people marry.

I kinda maybe sorta got carried away.

yes and yes

eoeo loves its mandatory organ donations and minorities

One of these days I'm going to straight up dictate this mother and enforce a bunch of legislation nobody wants.

For now I'll continue the delusion of democracy.

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high-income earners pay a 100% tax rate.

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SUCCESS

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*Taslvania, who somehow escaped my notice earlier, did not make it on the list, but rates a 7, and is far nicer than any of you. Eagh.

Hey, I'm not doing so bad :<

Sharky has a nation too :jess:

My country is the most compassionate? Huh? I mean sure, publicly I support awesome things like government healthcare and better education, but that's mostly because privately I hate people and want them to not be awful anymore but the law won't let me just kill them.

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My country is the most compassionate? Huh? I mean sure, publicly I support awesome things like government healthcare and better education, but that's mostly because privately I hate people and want them to not be awful anymore but the law won't let me just kill them.

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Mine is by 1 (It's not in the fancy picture because MDNA forgot about me T_T). For a brief period of time I was a Scandinavian Liberal Paradise.

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The Nomadic Peoples of Taslvania is a tiny, safe nation, renowned for its devotion to social welfare. Its hard-nosed population of 8 million enjoy extensive civil rights and enjoy a level of social equality free from the usual accompanying government corruption.

It is difficult to tell where the omnipresent, socially-minded government stops and the rest of society begins, but it juggles the competing demands of Education, Social Welfare, and Healthcare. The average income tax rate is 57%, and even higher for the wealthy. The private sector is almost wholly made up of enterprising ten-year-olds selling lemonade on the sidewalk, although the government is looking at stamping this out.

Meat-eating is frowned upon, young children are regularly seen wagering pocket money at blackjack tables, the alarmingly racist TV show 'Bigtopians Say the Darndest Things' is a hit, and the latest Harry Potter book is a bestseller. Crime is totally unknown. Taslvania's national animal is the Snake, which frolics freely in the nation's many lush forests, and its currency is the Ura.

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You know what bugs me? The whole meat eating is frowned upon thing. Me choosing to be considerate enough to make sure animals live well and die as painlessly as possible does not mean meat eating is frowned upon. If anything, people would be lucky if I didn't make meat eating mandatory.

The game tends to exaggerates things to make it more fun, at least that's what I remember reading that one time. That's why the people in your country are weird as smurf.

I am now an "Inoffensive Centrist Democracy".

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"I don't care what these so-called scientific studies say," says Declan Strange, representing a number of conservative religious organisations. "How can a boy hope to develop properly into a man if he's being brought up by poofs? A father figure is not supposed to behave as if it is 'okay' to be, um, romantically invested in another man - and the same goes for lesbians! Why? Because it is not okay. It'll just give them gay! Think about it: say you have two gay Cobbsquatchs - they can't have children because nature did not provide them with the tools and if God wanted gays to have kids then they would have those tools. Don't legalise this blasphemy! Think of the children!"

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My life is now complete.

I'm still desperately trying to keep hold of the Aison Collaboration from last time EoFF did this. We got invaded by some smurfs and DP buggered off and I can't gain control to boot the others so I guess our great name is being tarnished.

I never really paid attention to the communities there. I just address issues and watch my nation grow. EoFF now has a 45 million population and growing. Also,

4 hours ago: Following new legislation in http://www.nationstates.net/images/f...__720994t2.jpgEoFF, politicians are often found scavenging bins at night to supplement their income.

Jesus F'N Christ what is it with family members in this game always wanting you to become a dictator?

Family members always want what is best for you while being self-serving. I mean, once you die, who gets the crown, eh?

My nation is running smoothly, with nothing terribly out of whack. I do love reading what happens after implementing new policies and laws.

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EoFF is cracking me up. Top five percent for shortest lifespans. Why? Maybe it is something to do with the planes falling out of the sky on tourists? Maybe cancer contributes to almost half of all deaths in the nation?

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Maybe it is something to do with the planes falling out of the sky on tourists?

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Damn foreigners.

them feckin turrists

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I'm still desperately trying to keep hold of the Aison Collaboration from last time EoFF did this. We got invaded by some smurfs and DP buggered off and I can't gain control to boot the others so I guess our great name is being tarnished.

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What do you need to boot the others? I am sure we could talk some of our other lovely nations to hop into the Collective and help mass-vote or whatever you need to do. Let us know.

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Damn, how did you get a high score in each category? Every time my economy goes up either civil rights or political freedom goes down, and when civil rights or political freedom goes up the economy suffers.

I'm in the top 10% of the world for highest drug use. Feels good, especially when I saw a Conservative party ad today that tried to convince people that the Liberals wanting to legalize marijuana is the same thing as it becoming more accessible to kids. God damn fear mongers.

I am now a 'Father Knows Best State'. After being an Iron Fist Socialist and a Corrupt Dictatorship. And my army is comprised of toddlers that were abandoned on church steps as babies.

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And my army is comprised of toddlers that were abandoned on church steps as babies.

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That's the best kind of recruiting.

Kalevalastan is now categorized as an "Anarchy," with "World Benchmark" Civil Rights, a "Very Strong" Economy, and "Superb" Political Freedoms.

The Free Land of Kalevalastan is a large, genial nation, renowned for its irreverence towards religion. Its compassionate, hard-working, intelligent population of 56 million live in a state of perpetual fear, as a complete breakdown of social order has led to the rise of order through biker gangs.


The minute, liberal, pro-business government, or what there is of one, juggles the competing demands of Education, Commerce, and Social Welfare. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 7%. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Woodchip Exports, Soda Sales, and Uranium Mining industries.


The roads are notorious throughout the region for their peril, the government is pursuing a new programme aimed at promoting cultural sophistication, goose owners exercise their pets at a snail's pace or risk a court appearance, and the government is outsourcing itself. Crime is pervasive, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. Kalevalastan's national animal is the goose, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the rock.

I'm making EoFF students wear uniforms. Not just any uniforms...

:cool: Garden uniforms.

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Originally Posted by ToriJ

Damn, how did you get a high score in each category? Every time my economy goes up either civil rights or political freedom goes down, and when civil rights or political freedom goes up the economy suffers.

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The game might measure civil rights, political freedom, and economy as the big three important factors, but they are not the only metrics in the game, and increasing one is not to the detriment of another. The issues you tackle affect your nation in large variety of ways, from Authoritarianism to Youth Rebelliousness, and while some things are give and take, some issues just straight up affect one thing (I imagine; I do not have a GameFAQ for this). So you can have a strong economy with great civil and political liberties. You can get there if that is what you want, but if you look at my Trend graph, you can see it can be a journey.

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Originally Posted by Tasura

I am now a 'Father Knows Best State'. After being an Iron Fist Socialist and a Corrupt Dictatorship. And my army is comprised of toddlers that were abandoned on church steps as babies.

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All of this sounds horrible. I am glad to see someone do something other than I would, because it is cool to see how another might envision a world.

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Originally Posted by Kalevala

Kalevalastan is now categorized as an "Anarchy," with "World Benchmark" Civil Rights, a "Very Strong" Economy, and "Superb" Political Freedoms.

The Free Land of Kalevalastan is a large, genial nation, renowned for its irreverence towards religion. Its compassionate, hard-working, intelligent population of 56 million live in a state of perpetual fear, as a complete breakdown of social order has led to the rise of order through biker gangs.


The minute, liberal, pro-business government, or what there is of one, juggles the competing demands of Education, Commerce, and Social Welfare. Citizens pay a flat income tax of 7%. A powerhouse of a private sector is led by the Woodchip Exports, Soda Sales, and Uranium Mining industries.


The roads are notorious throughout the region for their peril, the government is pursuing a new programme aimed at promoting cultural sophistication, goose owners exercise their pets at a snail's pace or risk a court appearance, and the government is outsourcing itself. Crime is pervasive, and the police force struggles against a lack of funding and a high mortality rate. Kalevalastan's national animal is the goose, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the rock.

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Welcome aboard, Kalevala. I got all these rocks and I was wondering where I trade them in for real money?

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I'm making EoFF students wear uniforms. Not just any uniforms...

:cool: Garden uniforms.

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You are seeding the foundation for a brighter future.