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I find it adorable and Kili plus elf chick-I-can't-remember-her-name-right-now were adorables. Yah yah adding in blah but it wasn't BAD it wasn't like the worst thing ever. I'm totally pro dwarfxelf
TAURIEL that's her name
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What did you think about the new added character and the loveness added to The Hobbit movies?
omg it was so cute I can't deal with how cute it is
but I'm not really a Tolkien nerd so :gator: I didn't care to begin with really
Mostly all I care about is the Norn Iron dorf
I haven't seen any of The Hobbit movies, but they are both really pretty people and that makes me tingle.
No system to vidya on and now no hobbit movies?! What is wrong with you?!
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No.
If it was a good love story I could just about stomach it but smurf me, it really isn't.
But. She's betraying fabulous elf king and elf king son by helping the dwarfs.
I'm OK w/ the new elf chick, too. :chocobo: giggity
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But who's Kili?
he's the cute dwarf
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Badly-written, shallow character implanted in order to force an unnecessary love scene, create tension with the elves so that they can come to the rescue later in enlightened understanding of the dwarves, and add to the multiplying events that somehow lack in any real depth despite a number of said events going on. Additionally, I hate the idea of Peter Jackson's ridiculous, obsessive fangirling over the Tolkien universe enough to try to elaborate and take creative liberties in any capacity, as he did in this horrific instance.
So no. Boo.
But it works well on the silver screen. It may not be in line with the original book but translation from book to movie/show/game is never perfect. While I do like it, i'm not alone. Many enjoyed it and most people who did were those who weren't avid book readers. Which means it did hit it's target audience.
Different strokes for different folks.
It wasn't offensive or anything so it didn't get in the way of my enjoyment of the film. It was certainly superfluous, though. What I really liked about the first Hobbit movie was how it had the songs and everything so to see a ton of made up threads (and no songs) was kind of off-putting for the second one.
I know you're taking what I said from the Marvel thread and applying it here, but it still doesn't work for me because her character was poorly written, shallow, and overall just a token piece of romance with a feigned purpose. Like Psychotic, I could have maybe accepted it if it was a good part of the story, but it wasn't for me.Quote:
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It's not so much that I care about toeing the line to the books (we are obviously way past that mark), it's that I feel the story was cheapened by adding a token romance like this to it, which adds even more of a disservice because it was a troutty romance.
late edit: A good example of writing a character into a show who has not appeared in the literature it was based on can be taken from Daryl from Walking Dead. Flawless character there. It can be done. Peter Jackson did not do it.
I bet you hate grey's anatomy too :colbert:
Dwarf. It won't reach the bottom but it'll stretch the sides.
Anyway, it's pretty hilarious. I'm glad she got off that island.
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Imagine this wasnt a fantasy setting. You have a good girl who falls in love with the bad boy from out of town who gets thrown in jail. She uses her position as the mayor's daughter to break him out because no one can understand their love.Quote:
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Take the tolkien out of it and all your left with is a lame b movie teen romance/drama.
But... I'd watch that too.
She's played by Evangline Lilly so she's absolutely insanely hot so it's okay with me.
Shame on you for siding with the Elves. What's next, having a moan at me for cutting down trees or trying to offer you a +Honey Badger Leather Sandal+?Quote:
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I never said I sided with the elves. Just that a handful can be kept around in =Glass Cages= for our own purposes.
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Evangeline Lilly is overrated. Kili is not a dwarf. Their love makes no sense, on screen or off. Peter Jackson should be ashamed of himself.
Evangeline Lilly is attractive, and that's the only purpose females have.
No. And here's why no.
The existence of thus relationship essentially nullifies our knowledge the racial tensions between elves and dwarves present on Middle Earth. This tension is a central plot line in LotR in developing the relationship between Gimli and Legolas and later Gimli and Galadriel. I would argue, in fact, that this forced lovestory in what is essentially the prequel to LotR significantly reduces the importance of several major events between the races in the trilogy.
Is it nice to show another interracial lovestory? Yes. Does this forced and awkward lovestory trample over the subtlety and nuances of race relations in the original story? Absolutely it does.
Plus Kili doesnt.even have a beard, so she really doesn't love a dwarf. Just a short man.
He has a little bit of a beard. Some lovely stubble :(
My old manager at Pizza Hut had some stubble. Was she a dwarf too?
Man it's like you people hate eye candy.
This is now an Aidan Turner thread.
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That hair tho
That smile tho
Exactly this. Heck, it changes the meaning of Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli's relationship. The entire reason the Three Walkers was a thing was because it had never happened before. The races did not have that much interaction with each other.Quote:
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He is a beautiful man, but I think I prefer him with his long, Middle Earth hair.
Oh man he is so gorgeous with that hair
Basically just his hair, in general, at any time
I mean, I wouldn't kick him out of my bed either way, but that long hair makes him look so rugged.
Interestingly enough, I think his natural hair makes him look like a hobbit!
I have no strong opinion :bigsmile:
I don't find either that attractive though
Still only seen the first hobbit movie :(
He's not the hottest guy ever but he's also faaaaar from bad looking. Would go on double date with him (Me, Huxley, him, and whatever girl played Tauriel :bigsmile: )
He's definitely there for the eye candy but that's because no one realizes the gloriousness of Richard Armitage. I would make his mother cry, the things I'd do.
Bofur, aka James Nesbitt. Definitely the best dorf.
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Just posting to say that I find it really amusing that people are using "shallow" as a word to describe the two characters that aren't racist. Also, while I do see the reasonable argument of it ruining some major tensions, I also see the side of "This is something that would happen in a world of such prejudice, when races collide that would rarely do so."
Legolas' involvement was a thousand times more detrimental to the film than a mini love story.
If we're going to talk about events, characters or placements that were detrimental to the Hobbit films, I'll draft you up a nice long list for another thread.
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Ugh, I'd like to help.Quote:
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Please do, really. I'd love to read and post in that thread.Quote:
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Never read the books, so their whole sub-plot was just a thing that happened, to me. Don't really care either way.