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So who was your most disliked character? For me it was a toss up between Zell and Laloser.
For Zell, he was to lound and annoying and Laguna was just irritating... if I had to choose between the two I would probably say Zell, simply because he is about for a lot longer, and while you are forced to play as Laloser a lot more, he is Squalls dad so I'll give him props for that.
Irvine
Ward w/ his ridic anchor
I didn't like Ward or Irvine. But, I liked his hat.
I like all of them.
Gameplay wise, Selphie is my least favorite character to use, Slots is just one of my least favorite Limit Breaks. Story wise, Rinoa is my least favorite because she hits too many of my least favorite tropes when it comes to leading ladies.
Quistis. She's beauitful, popular, talented and intelligent. She has everything anybody would ever wish for- expect for the town's local emo. So she breaks down and acts like the world is ending because of it.
I could make a serious case that Irvine is the worst character in the entire series, let alone just FFVIII.
Irvine was just awful. It's a shame because they could have done a sniper character so much better. In fact, the way they did it, they couldn't have done it much worse.
Okay, I'm curious now since he's winning in the poll. Why is Irvine so hated?
1. He's introduced as a womanizer.
2. His sole reason for being on our team is to be the sharpshooter and take out Edea. He can't do it though because he "always" chokes. That means, a guy who's entire career is working under pressure, cracks under pressure, and bungles the most important thing you do for most of the game. He completely failed at the only reason he's even around.
3. He abandons Squall and the others to their fate in D-District Prison and only goes back to save them because Rinoa scratched him a bunch.
So he's:
Sexist
Incompetent
Traitorous
And he never does anything useful in the game, ever.
That good enough?
^ What Forsaken Lover said.
His constant hitting on the girls does get old pretty quickly.
Exactly.
1. Mainly womanizes in the beginning and then spends the majority of the game just focusing on Selphie who is oblivious, making for some really funny scenes because he's less "creepy stalker" and more like Johnny Bravo. I take it no one here likes Edgar and Zidane either since they are both much worse about being creepy with it.
2. Except he does shoot. He fails but he actually shoots and realistically, you can be a great marksman and still choke on a shoot, especially if you are shooting a real person. Statistically, new recruits tend to miss more than veterans because they purposely aim high to miss the target because military training can't really prepare you for killing a living human target. Getting better at that comes from doing so on the battlefield.
3. Well we are talking about a guy who was under orders to bring Rinoa back and unlike the other SeeDs, helping them would mean he's going against his homeland. He actually grew up in the Galbadia region, and his Garden is working for said country so why should he have loyalty to a foreign military force?
4. He spends the rest of the game trying to be match maker for Squall and Rinoa, so he does actually do something after he joins besides revealing one of the series more awkward plot twists.
Galbadia Garden doesn't work for Galbadia, it's just in their territory. That's why the Sorceress had to have a full-on military invasion where she dumped all the students and replaced them with actual soldiers. The Gardens are specifically independent organizations and not part of any country.
And we're not debating Irvine's logic here. We're debating why people hate him. Nobody cares why the weasel sells you out, only that he sells you out. As I said, Irvine's only contributions are to fail at why he's there in the first place and then to try and leave the party to rot in prison. Those are very good reasons for people to think he's a trout stain and the worst character ever in the FF series.
Your persistence in defending FFVIII is honestly worrying. Did something....happen to you recently? Are you feeling alright? In the past you've always had the correct opinion that this game is total garbage and it doesn't correctly utilize any of the characters and the plot makes no goddam sense. But recently you are sticking up for it all the damned time and it's confusing.
While it's true Garden is meant to be autonomous, if you really pay attention and explore Galbadia Garden, you'll learn the Garden is actually closely tied to the Galbadian Military (their whole army is said to be made from Garden cadets that didn't make the cut to be SeeD) so they actually do have closer ties to the government than Balamb or Trabia do, but then again neither of them are located by major political powers as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
I disagree he's the worst but I felt I would counter points and stick up for the dude.Quote:
And we're not debating Irvine's logic here. We're debating why people hate him. Nobody cares why the weasel sells you out, only that he sells you out. As I said, Irvine's only contributions are to fail at why he's there in the first place and then to try and leave the party to rot in prison. Those are very good reasons for people to think he's a trout stain and the worst character ever in the FF series.
I've never said it was garbage, broken as all hell with lots of missed opportunities and a plot that should have stayed a first draft? Yeah, totally said that stuff before but I honestly like the game despite it's faults because it was creative and daring when no one expected it to be, and I find Squall to be one of the more relatable characters in the franchise. I've defended it probably as often as I've slammed it but the game was always a mixed bag. Despite all that it's probably one of the better PS1 FFs when taken for it what it is.Quote:
Your persistence in defending FFVIII is honestly worrying. Did something....happen to you recently? Are you feeling alright? In the past you've always had the correct opinion that this game is total garbage and it doesn't correctly utilize any of the characters and the plot makes no goddam sense. But recently you are sticking up for it all the damned time and it's confusing.
Btw why is Seifer not up there? And smurf those people who picked every single character as the worst, that's just rude :shifty:
Anyway, out of the bunch I also pick Irvine as my least favourite BUT I don't hate the guy and I also want to add on to some of the points Wolf Kanno mentioned.
1. Being a womanizer: I also usually dislike these types of characters but there are a few other FF characters that are womanizers too but people love them (Zidane and Edgar). So why hate on Irvine and not Zidane for this one aspect?
2. Choking at sharpshooting: Irvine was the only one at the time that knew Edea was their matron, he choked because he didn't want to kill his childhood caretaker, and I also think he was more scared of the fact that his name would go down in history for it more-so than just doing the deed. I think he was more terrified of fame and the pressure that comes with said fame. He wouldn't be classified as an expert sharpshooter if he choked every time he had to snipe someone.
3.I think it's more worrying that you're always slamming FF8 constantly, if you hate it so much why do you need to make so many threads and comments slamming it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
Not to mention he was up against a powerful witch who managed to block his shot with her magic. If Edea wasn't a sorceress, Irvine would've least managed to shoot Edea in the high neck, which would've stunned her enough for Irvine to quickly take another shot and take Edea out, before the Galbadia guards got to the SeeDs and Rinoa. Galbadia would've been no longer under Edea's ruling so they could not do a single thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolf Kanno
Also remember that Edea was like Irvine's mother to him.
It's like how Arin Hanson feels about Sonic the Hedgehog and how he's always ranting and whining about the platforming gaming series and wants everybody to hate on the game just as much as he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rin Heartilly3.I think it's more worrying that you're always slamming FF8 constantly, if you hate it so much why do you need to make so many threads and comments slamming it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
Selphie fo sho.
Selphie...
Man, people hating on Selphie, best character with the best limit, y'all nuts.
Rinoa always felt pretty useless to me. Everything she could do, someone else could do better. That's probably more a function of the draw and junction system than anything though.
I actually like Irvine, he's cocky and arrogant/womanising but underneath he's actually sensitive and not at all a total jerk. He seems like a pretty standard, confused teenage boy in a war.
Picked Irvine. I genuinely like all the characters but went for him because he joined the party late and I didn't warm to him as much as I did with the others.
My favourite game ever. :monster:Quote:
Originally Posted by Forsaken Lover
Quistis
- she finishes Squalls sentences, talks over him, talks too much in general
-she continues to flirt with Squall despite his obvious lack of interest
-the comment she makes in the fire cave about the male candiates being distracted by her is egocentric and unprofessional considering she's an instructor
-she screws up during the Deling City mission in her own way by insisting she has enough time to apologise to Rinoa, then getting all of them locked in so they have to take the long way round (how did she make it as an instructor?)
Selphie's limit break is arguably the worst = luck, best is Zell and Squall for most damage output.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mister Adequate
But Rinoa's limit breaks are awesome, cast Aura on Rinoa and get her to spam Invincible moon and wishing star (unlearn the other limits) = every battle is easy. Also her base attack stat is the same as Squalls.
I despise Zell. He never entered my party and never will.
Not including any times you have to use him of course.
I agree with this totally. Zell was such a loud obnoxious brat and his constant attempts to punch things....well.....they got ever so slightly on my nerves!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hypoallergenic Cactuar