Suikoden Marathon

With all of the Suikoden talk, I decided to start my Suikoden marathon that I have had planned forever. Also note that by marathon I mean playing them all in a row, one right after the other, and not playing them quickly. Especially with school and stuff coming up, these won't get done quickly.

So after asking my boyfriend we decided I would play them in order of events instead of in order of game. Which means IV - V - I - II - III. I'll keep a journal here of my progress and discussions and whatever and people can talk about them with me if they want to! I have played all games before so no worry about spoilers. On that note, I will have spoilers if you haven't played the games. I'll also keep a map detailing where I've been from the nifty map I've found online! Areas I have visited will be circled. Enlargeable full map can be found here http://images.ngamexp.com/6/0000006093.jpg

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Okay so first day, July 22nd/23rd

*Started playing Suikoden IV. It's been the longest since I've played this game and I was amazed at how much I've forgotten. I printed out a Star guide and I forgot who most of the characters were! It's a shame so many of them were forgettable. Named hero Lazlo

*Noticed that Snowe looks like a woman. Especially on one portrait where his earlobes look like earrings.

*Did my first naval engagement. Skipped tutorial thinking I didn't need it. Lost

*Realized I needed the tutorial and reset.

*Won the battle. Scene seems to proceed the same way. Won the duel. Wondered if Commander Glen has the same voice as Margulis. Looked it up just now and learned that he's been in literally everything in existence. And he is the same voice. He also does Papa Godwin in SV.

*Went to Razril and met Funghi and Chiepoo.

*Remembered this was the point I had trouble with the first time I played because they're a bit vague on what to do next.

*Chose Kennith and Jewel to accompany me on my first mission. I *think* this is where you choose who will stay with you a while. Last time I chose Kennith and Paula and I was debating Jewel and Paula this time but as much as I like the Wind Rune, I really don't use it much.

*Chose to deliver a document and went to Middleport. Bought some cheap trade goods and some flower seeds. Met Adrienne, Deborah, Oskar, and Gunter.

Went to bed as it was late, played more while waiting for Internet dude

*Forgot how terribly awkward the ship is and how they don't really give you an explanation. Went much faster once I figured it out. Also forgot the ridiculously high encounter rate.

*Pretty water though!

*Defeated evil hairball

*Returned to Razril and met Basil and Konrad. Forgot how many recruits are in Razril. Noticed how many characters look rather gender ambiguous.

*Ramada is creepy lookin

*Glen reminds me of Malik from Graces f now

*Snow is a terrible Captain. It's easy to Captain when things are going good :colbert:

*Debated killing Snowe later in the game.

*Despite intimidating naval battle, I won without issue, and also won the duel.

*Have returned to Razril, people are rightfully being assish to Snowe

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July 23rd

*Pirates attacked

*Glen died, received the Rune of Punishment

*Was exiled. Very sad.

*Recruited Jewel, Kennith , and Chiepoo

*How the heck did Snowe get made new Commander?

*Lots of ship time and battles

*Boss fights

*Arrived at Obel

*Met Nabokov and Yu

*Traded sugar for a good price

*Received HQ

*Recruited Desmond, Tov, Louise, Chadli, and Ornan

*Traveled to Nay-Nal, recruited Rita, Mitsuba, and Reinhold

Total stars of destiny: 12/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/djhS95I.jpg

July 24th

I was sick today so we have a big update!

*Recruited Perrault

*Went to the Obel ruins

*Recruited Rakgi, Rikie, Lilin, and Cedric

*Remembered you can press R1 to dash. Makes ridiculous encounter rate a bit more barable since I can actually go distance

*Met Ema, Noah, and Gary

*Changed party and learned that Rita is a good Lightning Rune mage and Mitsuba is a good hitter

*Realized Kika is an attractive pirate lady. Also very thin. Felt jealous while eating kit kat bar

*Recruited Oleg, Akaghi, Mizuki, Ramada, Yu, and Adrienne

*HQ became a ship, very excited about comment box

*Recruited Haruto, Lino, Nico, and Pablo automatically

*Recruited Mao, Nao, Bang, Bartholomew, Viki, Jeane, Manu, Shiramine, Lilan, Izak, Kate, Nataly, Taisuke, Lilen, Rene, and Phil

*Remembered how adorable Nataly is, changed avatar to Nataly avatar. Was sad I had no window sets

*Went to Pirate's Nest

*Recruited Kika, Dario, Nalleo, Sigurd, Hervey, Lilon, and Liloon

*Almost lost ship battle because stupid sick brain, agonized over which option to pick for Snowe. Went with second option. Snowe is still a jackass.

Total Stars of Destiny: 51/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/xiDmtiX.png

July 25th

*Went to Hermitage Island and got Elenor as my tactician, as well as Agnes. Named my ship and army 'Toran' as that's what I name all my stuff since Suikoden I.

*Recruited Jango, Brec, Aldo, Gau, Katarina, Lo Fong, Lo Hak, Lo Seng, Igor, Nalkul and Champo

*Went to Middleport and defeated the horrible octomammoth thing

*Recruited Reinbach III, Micky, Gareth, Deborah, Oskar, Etienne, Helga, Charlemagne, and Keen

*Realized how many people I needed Reinbach for, wondered why he isn't the leader of the army

*Had a ridiculous amount of fun with the confessionals :excited:

*Went to the Ghost Ship, got game over. Tried again and won. Recruited Ted.

*Went to Na-Nal, wanted to punch Mayor in the face

*Recruited Axel and Selma. Tried to recruit Eugene but was never there. Grew increasingly worried.

*Went to Nay. Recruited Kevin, Pam, Millay.

*After recruiting Millay, Eugene was finally there. Was also amazed at how Reinbach and Millay handled their affairs like mature adults. Noted that I once again needed Reinbach.

*Took back Razril.

*Recruited Helmut, Paula, Tal, Ameria, Basil, Frederica, Funghi, Karl, Konrad, Jeremy, Maxine (who nearly kicked my butt on the second fight with her stupid wind rune), and Gretchen. Super excited about Gretchen.

*Went to recruit Warlock, did dungeon, recruited Warlock. Went back to recruit Pecola, was not there. Finally talked to Deborah and returned and she was there.

*Ship is very lively now!

Total Stars of Destiny: 94/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/MNMopN4.png

July 26th

*Went to Pirate's Nest, and finally took back Obel after several suspiciously too easy ship battles.

*Recruited Tanya, Flare, Setsu, Carrie, Ema, Gary, Gunter, Nabokov, Noah, Trishtan, Wendel, Rachel.

*Went to recruit Travis through the rather annoying Obel Ruins. Rage quit during tough boss. Realized I could walk around boss, recruited Travis.

*Recruited Snowe and got all 108 Stars of Destiny!!! :kaocheer:

*Am now getting all characters up to level 50 before proceeding. So far my strategy for this has been:
-For characters below level 25, I build them up in the Obel path leading to the former HQ
-For characters level 25 to 40, I build them up in the town square of Na-Nal
-For characters level 40 and above, I build them up in the Obel Ruins, now chock full of stronger monsters

Doing this method it takes about 20 minutes to get someone up to level 50, doing 3 characters at a time. I'm also picking my parties so as to get their combo attacks as well!

When all characters are at level 50, I will post stats here so anyone who plays can plan their party accordingly if they so choose!

*For anyone who needs a guide to recruit the 108 stars, suikosource has an excellent guide here. However, there are a few changes I would like to add as a heads up:
-Eugene seems to appear randomly
-To recruit Carrie, you need Yu in your party
-Travis needs an Escape Scroll (marked here as Scroll of Return)
-Noah is BEHIND the throne in the throne room.

Other than that, the guide is excellent and even shows in what order you can recruit each character. The only one who needs advanced events before they are listed for recruitment is Gunter. You need to speak to him in Middleport near the beginning of the game and in Na Nal just after you liberate it.

:save:Total Stars of Destiny: 108/108:save:
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http://i.imgur.com/x30BERM.png

It`s been so long since i`ve played these games. If i still had my ps1 and ps2 i would play them again.

The ship battles are ridiculously easy until the last one, when it becomes ridiculously luck-based.

Despite considering Suikoden IV the weakest of the series, I must say that it is notably easy and efficient to play. The Obel Ruins is probably the longest dungeon in the game, and it's a quick 2-minute run (and except for the ocean/world map, the encounter rate is fairly low). Travis is still an asshole.

I do think it's the weakest one, but for me it's still a very enjoyable game. I've been having a lot of fun and I can hardly put it down! I am excited to finish soon though as V is my favourite/tied for my favourite in the series. I am NOT however looking forward to how much more difficult it is to recruit everyone in V. I'm going to be pulling my hair out the whole game worrying I've missed something. V is not forgiving with the recruitment.

Today I've mostly been grinding. I have 15 characters to go I think, should be finished up tomorrow

15 characters?!? Are you trying to level up everyone just for kicks? Or are you going for the boarding option for the ship battles?

Im gettng them all to level 50 to compare their stats. Mostly curiosity. I used to have notes but they died with my old laptop

Come now, we all know the best team in Suikoden IV is Lazlo (S4 Hero), Kika, Snowe and Ted. :colbert:

Screw Snowe, he's a terrible character :colbert:

Everyone is up to level 50. Here are their stats with all equipment removed. Not including stats affected by weapons. The number in regular colour means it's in the average range, red means below average range, and green means above average range. Alphabetical order.

To avoid having to rewrite the same stat name over and over, this is the order
Character Name
Strength - Skill - Magic - Evasion
Physical Defense - Magical Defense - Speed - Luck

(SPOILER)
Akaghi
117 - 95 - 88 - 161
94 - 115 - 135 - 96

Aldo
111 - 111 - 79 - 115
114 - 148 - 141 - 63

Ameria
114 - 128 - 111 - 95
83 - 62 - 127 - 110

Axel
127 - 80 - 76 - 94
109 - 85 - 104 - 101

Bartholomew
164 - 67 - 65 - 101
127 - 47 - 37 - 66

Champo
85 - 128 - 78 - 129
83 - 130 - 134 - 84

Charlemagne
115 - 129 - 72 - 80
68 - 83 - 64 - 84

Chiepoo
93 - 126 - 94 - 146
84 - 83 - 140 - 160

Dario
143 - 67 - 75 - 66
115 - 110 - 57 - 62

Eugene
86 - 115 - 114 - 92
125 - 95 - 54 - 39

Flare
79 - 139 - 113 - 130
70 - 114 - 144 - 116

Frederica
101 - 117 - 113 - 93
66 - 69 - 151 - 114

Gau
167 - 81 - 39 - 60
144 - 40 - 119 - 67

Gretchen
126 - 100 - 98 - 81
126 - 89 - 91 - 78

Helga
161 - 83 - 62 - 70
113 - 59 - 49 - 114

Helmut
117 - 162 - 111 - 73
83 - 68 - 115 - 69

Hervey
144 - 100 - 67 - 132
104 - 76 - 148 - 116

Izak
142 - 69 - 65 - 83
126 - 65 - 67 - 105

Jeane
64 - 144 - 164 - 65
97 - 162 - 64 - 100

Jeremy
126 - 115 - 54 - 96
114 - 61 - 114 - 97

Jewel
115 - 115 - 80 - 129
81 - 101 - 130 - 99

Karl
138 - 78 - 63 - 84
160 - 66 - 94 - 53

Katarina
83 - 99 - 130 - 112
48 - 129 - 80 - 45

Kate
84 - 115 - 132 - 141
97 - 85 - 147 - 97

Kennith
96 - 146 - 102 - 113
101 - 96 - 112 - 83

Kika
84 - 164 - 65 - 147
104 - 97 - 126 - 84

Konrad
50 - 93 - 146 - 112
52 - 126 - 67 - 103

Lazlo
113 - 115 - 111 - 129
94 - 79 - 108 - 66

Lino
144 - 96 - 66 - 64
130 - 83 - 79 - 103

Lo Fong
75 - 111 - 116 - 98
98 - 110 - 160 - 144

Lo Hak
98 - 129 - 102 - 113
97 - 72 - 142 - 64

Lo Seng
112 - 83 - 66 - 100
84 - 72 - 127 - 60

Maxine
59 - 163 - 160 - 67
52 - 143 - 98 - 124

Millay
114 - 130 - 115 - 99
103 - 64 - 142 - 125

Mitsuba
138 - 68 - 69 - 65
79 - 98 - 63 - 144

Mizuki
82 - 113 - 116 - 142
115 - 97 - 155 - 85

Nalkul
117 - 99 - 102 - 147
95 - 99 - 141 - 98

Ornan
95 - 108 - 99 - 67
97 - 114 - 128 - 131

Pablo
54 - 126 - 124 - 64
54 - 102 - 116 - 145

Paula
82 - 112 - 125 - 98
63 - 117 - 114 - 99

Rachel
104 - 132 - 78 - 113
103 - 63 - 130 - 96

Reinbach
86 - 141 - 80 - 132
98 - 94 - 102 - 157

Reinhold
129 - 94 - 82 - 113
64 - 85 - 65 - 68

Rita
81 - 129 - 113 - 145
81 - 95 - 106 - 157

Selma
104 - 141 - 114 - 85
105 - 67 - 102 - 100

Shiramine
129 - 82 - 49 - 61
143 - 64 - 85 - 83

Sigurd
116 - 147 - 92 - 112
116 - 96 - 131 - 77

Snowe
135 - 95 - 64 - 115
81 - 67 - 96 - 40

Tal
146 - 80 - 71 - 96
116 - 67 - 96 - 114

Ted
83 - 126 - 163 - 112
52 - 141 - 124 - 83

Travis
115 - 86 - 66 - 110
113 - 95 - 125 - 104

Trishtan
69 - 144 - 51 - 66
145- 139 - 113 - 69

Ugetsu
109 - 64 - 85 - 62
87 - 65 - 53 - 72

Viki
65 - 143 - 142 - 129
45 - 134 - 60 - 51

Warlock
37 - 40 - 162 - 161
55 - 139 - 51 - 55

Wendel
83 - 100 - 144 - 159
64 - 68 - 126 - 97

There you go! You now have a quick reference guide without having to grind and write this up for hours ._.

I agree with shion; Snowe is an awful person and I refuse to use him on principal, even if he is part of the consensus-best party. SIV is pretty much alone in the fact that it even has one of those.

And that list is pretty cool. I am amused that Snowe is below-average in most stat categories. His unite with Lazlo is really the only reason he's notable. What number is the stat for arm strength?

The strength stat? The average is 100-110. Unless you mean weapon strength, in which case I don't know xD

Oh haha, that was just a facetious reference to Snowe's infamous arm pain. Not a serious question, though the real answer is that it's obviously permanently set at 0.

Oh sorry xD Yeah that arm thing was pretty darn ridiculous.

Suikoden IV with Snowe as protagonist:

"BUT MY ARM WOULDN'T MOVE"

Fin

On a side note, I was thinking about it and I find the True Runes a really interesting take on kind of Gods in this world. It's interesting to me that religion is not a huge thing in the Suikoverse despite the Gods being out and about and people having concrete proof they exist. Maybe that's why religion isn't an issue? Either way it's a pretty interesting take on things. The Gods are the things your magic runes are based on and they choose their owner and each have their positive and negative effects and people seek them a great deal for their power. I wish there would be more Suikoden games so we could see more of them but it sadly looks like the series is dead :(

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I agree with shion; Snowe is an awful person and I refuse to use him on principal, even if he is part of the consensus-best party. SIV is pretty much alone in the fact that it even has one of those.

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Not completely true, S1 and S5 are probably the only entries where most fans don't have a general consensus of the best final party. the first game because beyond specialty runes and weapon setups, everyone is the same and S5 because they're too many broken character builds.

Yes Snowe is irritating, but I kind of liked his arc as a character and I enjoyed rubbing his face in his failures only to finally break his selfishness by end game. Snowe's saving grace is his Unite with the Hero but also his equipment setup allows him to use things like the Hero Armor set and a few other broken Armor sets that offset his average stats. Now in Suikoden Tactics, he's mostly useless.

Below average stats :3: Although his PDF and spf are lose to the lower average.

I think he's a well done character though. They wanted to make a character you'd dislike and they certainly succeeded for me. It made it tempting to off him when he was being an arrogant jerk. Now he's just all depressed and he is better but I just don't like him as a person so I don't like using him.

My main party is:
Lazlo - because they make me
Gretchen - Because she's pretty
Mizuki - Because she's a decent healer and also quick, which means quick healing
Rita - Because she's very good with a Lightning Rune and a bit better physically than most of the other mages

And I can't recall exactly, but I *think* they make you take a second party in here soon so I have it set up with
Ted - Because good healing and Soul Eater Rune
Jeane - Because magic
Mitsuba - Just because she's strong and I had her set up anyway since I used her before I got Gretchen
Kika - Because Kika

So I just need to finish sharpening their weapons (short on funds after sharpening the weapons of 56ish characters) and I'm off to progress the game

July 28th

*Finished preparations. Made second team of Mitsuba, Jeane, Ted, and Kika.

*Completed ship battle with two ships remaining.

*Defeated Cray like it was nothing

*Got to the final boss and lost hard. Took a fit. Was having a terrible day and I prepared and prepared and the final boss was a mega pain and I took a fit and had to start over.

*Finished preparations. Trained more. Made FIRST TEAM Jeane, Ted, and Kika. Made second team Mizuki, Rita, Gretchen, and Mitsuba.

*Lost ship battle

*Started wanting to break game which before this had been very easy. Was happier when it was very easy.

*Won thanks to sharky's help. Lost no ships.

*Beat Cray still pretty easily.

*Lost boss battle due to not paying attention to when he turns white

*Fought boss again. Lost 3 characters to stupid white attack. Made a miraculous recovery. Noticed next time he turned white and used Rush. Won just as I was giving up hope.

*Watched credits. They went by very quickly, wish they had gone by more slowly

*FINISHED THE GAME SO HAPPY OH MY GOSH THAT BOSS

*Total time was 37 hours and 11 minutes.

So I liked it more than I remembered although I still say it's my least favourite. It certainly has its faults and sadly the characters are not super memorable as a whole. But it was still a lot of fun.

I wish they had spread the info a bit more over the game instead of a big info dump at the end. I hadn't remembered about Helmut being the son of whatshisname and Lazlo being Flare's long lost brother. That was kind of sweet, actually. Helmut has good hair. But yeah, there was a lot of free time they could have added some story instead of keeping it all to the end. I also miss the detective investigations.

Overall still a great game and I had a lot of fun :flirt: Will add more in journal entry.

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*Started Suikoden V

*Already getting a headache at the Stars of Destiny checklist. WHY SUIKODEN V, WHY?!?!?

*Misspelled Freyjadour's name. Will just call him Frey here.

*Am now in Lordlake.

*Noticed lack of Dash, was sad

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Does anyone else go to the HQ in each game and decide where their room would be if they were a Star of Destiny? Probably only I am that big of a dweeb, but yes. I decided in Suikoden IV that it would be Katarina's room. I wanted to be below deck but not at the bottom, thus the fourth floor. I didn't want to be right next to the doctor because if there's an emergency and they need more space, guess who's room is getting converted. I also wanted to be on the left side, but not right next to Dario because he seems like he'd be loud. So fourth door on the left. And it's close to the library!

July 29th

Oh look, it's a week since I started! Rest assured that Suikoden V will not go anywhere near as quickly

*In Lordlake. Met Toma, Goesch (who's name I always mispronounce), Talgeyl, Silva

*Rescued Toma

*Lordlake sure is depressing. I do like the themed battle fades so far. Suikoden IV with it's water, Suikoden V with the sun. It was especially fitting in Lordlake

*First boss was a breeze with Georg Prime

*I like that they finally give you their Rune affinity ratings in this one so I don't have to look it up

*So we returned to the beautiful Sol-Falena

*Royal pajamas made me laugh

*Met the royal knights and the royal family

*Random guy who talks about the war seems forced but I've meet sharky's dad people like that so

*It was cheesy but I liked Ferrid's loyalty talk. I like the music that plays with Zahhak, they aren't showcasing that one or anything. Alenia needs to crawl out of the Godwin's butts

*I LOVE MIAKIS :omgomg:

*The senate is depressing. Two parties that both suck bananas. Sounds like US politics :monster:

*I like the saves that change colours and talking to Lyon who follows behind you

*Bought 1/6 needed salts for random salt guy recruitment

*Headed to Stormfist

*Met Marina, Shoon, Belcoot, Norma and Ernst, Egbert, Nikea, ummm Armes guy who's name I don't remember, dwarf blacksmith guy

*Already super paranoid about missing recruits.

*Got another salt

*Margulis/Glen has made his return

*Doing sacred games stuff with Belcoot now

*I like the little call out to Suikoden I when they mention Morgan the gladiator. This is why it's fun to play them in order! There are also some recruits with Obel style uniforms if I remember correctly

map
http://i.imgur.com/fSajdN1.png

Also everyone else is probably smarter and knew this but if you right click on the map and select view image, you can zoom in that way!

Consensus party in II is Wakaba and LC Chan and berserk them both and one-shot the final boss.

This is a good thread Pumpkin, keep it up :jess:

July 30th

*Helped out Belcoot

*Did the Sacred Games stuff

*Bought salt

*Returned to Sol-Falena

*Bought more salt

*Met Jeane

*Went to East Palace and met Zerase

*Went to Lunas, met Isato, Haswar, Logg, and Lun

*Logg and Lun are quite tragic

*Went to Raftfleet and met Meroon, Sairoh, Raja, and Kisara

*Returned to Sol-Falena where stuff started to happen. Very sad stuff. Very powerful moments in the game

*I like the music after the escape

*Went to Haud Village. Oh goodness, Haud Village

*Met Bastian and Josephine

*Recruited Boz, Zegai left

*Went to Rainwall. Started stressing about recruits

*Met Alhazred, Luserina, Chuck. Recruited Luserina

*The space limit in your inventory is terrible so I'm glad I have storage now

*Bought more salt

*Remembered about the Wilhelm recruiting, already started pulling my hair out. So I looked it up and some people say you need to not lose many recruits in the war battles, others say you need a lot of Victory+'s, others say you just need Viki, others say you need an all female party, others say you need some combination of these or all of these and just GAAAHHHH (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)

*So I did the first war battle and I got Victory+ but I lost 94 people. Is that too many? Does it stack? Did I already mess up the recruit? I HATE RECRUITING IN THIS GAME IT IS SO STRESSFUL

*Met Sagiri, Shigure, and Fuyo

*Recruited Cornelio. It says "befriended" but considering he calls me Mediocrity, I don't think I did. I do like how the battle music changes when you use him.

*Met Resto and Shun Min

*So went to see about salt and the price HAD been raised when I was in Rainwall but then it plummeted by the time I reached Raftleet. So will it rise again? Did I miss my chance? WHY IS RECRUITING IN THIS GAME SO ABSURDLY HARD (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
I am buying so much salt now it's not even funny. I will buy all of the salt in the friggin world and the price will have to go up. Every single grain of salt will be mine
I CAN'T EVEN PUT IT IN STORAGE BECAUSE BY THE TIME I FETCH IT AND COME BACK I MAY MISS MY WINDOW AGAIN

*Recruited Logg and Lun

*Went to Lordlake

*Hatred Fortress, seriously. Seriously

Stars of Destiny: 7/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/kdcTd8T.png

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Not completely true, S1 and S5 are probably the only entries where most fans don't have a general consensus of the best final party. the first game because beyond specialty runes and weapon setups, everyone is the same and S5 because they're too many broken character builds.

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True, S2 and S3 also have some consensus top characters. I guess I should rephrase in that S4 has the most easily-broken top characters with no effort on the gamer's part. S2's "top" characters are all there just because they have 3 open rune slots (e.g., Killey) for rare-but-overpowered runes. Equipping Fury, Double-Beat, and Double-Strike on anyone makes them a monster. And for S3, some of the top characters are based on skills that you may or may not want to spend all the time leveling up (e.g., Juan). For S4, you're given Kika, who for some ungodly reason has a disadvantage-free Falcon Rune, and Snowe, who comes with a ridiculous unite with Lazlo. You don't even have to do anything to them and they're all overpowered (you can also add Mizuki, who has a repeatable and disadvantage-free 2x Strike Rune, which basically makes her normal attack unnecessary). S4 is the only Suikoden game I've played where my hero was ever the weakest character in my party.

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*Lost ship battle

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Troy is a bitch. As I said, the ship battles go from ridiculously easy to manipulate to complete random luck.

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Originally Posted by now on S5

*Bought 1/6 needed salts for random salt guy recruitment

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smurf that guy.

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*Remembered about the Wilhelm recruiting, already started pulling my hair out. So I looked it up and some people say you need to not lose many recruits in the war battles, others say you need a lot of Victory+'s, others say you just need Viki, others say you need an all female party, others say you need some combination of these or all of these and just GAAAHHHH (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)

*So I did the first war battle and I got Victory+ but I lost 94 people. Is that too many? Does it stack? Did I already mess up the recruit? I HATE RECRUITING IN THIS GAME IT IS SO STRESSFUL

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My understanding is that it's based on losses (if you get all Victory+'s, then you're likely in good shape, absent some very bad luck), but even if you have too many losses, you can STILL recruit him with Viki in your party. He mentions something about being a good general and not wasting lives, and he also is a womanizer, so that all makes sense. I haven't had to try the latter before, though, so don't consider that absolute.

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*So went to see about salt and the price HAD been raised when I was in Rainwall but then it plummeted by the time I reached Raftleet. So will it rise again? Did I miss my chance? WHY IS RECRUITING IN THIS GAME SO ABSURDLY HARD (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
I am buying so much salt now it's not even funny. I will buy all of the salt in the friggin world and the price will have to go up. Every single grain of salt will be mine
I CAN'T EVEN PUT IT IN STORAGE BECAUSE BY THE TIME I FETCH IT AND COME BACK I MAY MISS MY WINDOW AGAIN

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See above: smurf that guy.

But I think you only need 6 salt when that trade event is triggered, and I never had any luck getting it to trigger by buying salt. It is a repeatable event. My advice is just to hold 1-2 full stacks of salt in your inventory and just play through the game, talking to the traders along the way. Don't stress out trying to get him right away, because it's just a pain in the ass.

I know he's not missable but just something about you could have recruited him..... but you didn't just stresses me out. I stress easily. I love this game to death and the story and characters and world are amazing but they've gone full on punishment in recruiting for it and I always stress that I missed something

Thanks for the advice, I appreciate it :jess:

It's an either or thing actually for Wilhelm, same with Oboro. To get Wilhelm you either have to convince his partner by proving your a great general with a Victory + and very few losses in the first few battles or you can simply wait to bring any of the girls used in the Cute Girl Unite Attack which is Viki, Norma, and one other I can't remember and that will be enough to convince him to join to his partner Mueller's disgust.

The Trader character will activate the event, so just hold onto the salt until he mentions the wager to see how good you are at trading which as far as I know, won't happen until you get Raftfleet on your side anyways so don't stress over it. Honestly, I love the fact the recruitment in this game is challenging because it's not like everything else in the game isn't easy. It's also cool how a few characters have multiple ways to recruit them although I screwed up with Oboro in my last playthrough, and had to get him the hard way because I forgot to help Sagiri and Shigure with the investigation. :(

Way to forget gosh :colbert: Terrible

thanky for advice though! Im a fan of easier things though so I prefer easier recruiting :greenie:

July 30th, Part 2

*So I went to break Lucretia out of prison. Met Gunde and Dwarfsmith

*I like the fact that you can bring an entourage with you!

*Recruited Cius, Lelei, and Lucretia

*Defended Raftleet and got a Victory+

*Recruited Raja, Kisara, and Shinro

*Realized that unlike in IV, V counts the WPN level towards the attack stat, so when comparing everyone's stats I will have to make sure they are all at the same weapon level. That's going to get EXPENSIVE. You do seem to get more money in this game, but it also gets spent more easily.

*Met Oboro and Norden

*Did Oboro sidequest, hopefully correctly

*Recruited Egbert, Takamu, and Josephine

Total Stars of Destiny: 16/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/q2LF7a3.png

July 31st

*Did the whole Rainwall thing, did war battle, got Victory+ with no losses.

*Wondered if Wilhelm is the voice of Captain Matthews. I hope so. Captain Matthews from the game with another character named Wilhelm and another voice actor who does Margulis/Godwin

*Some really great scenes in Rainwall. I really think it's pretty but the first time I played I thought it would be my HQ and I was a bit disappointed since it's much more developed. But I was happy that wasn't the case.

*Relocated to Raftfleet. One of my favourite areas of the whole game.

*New outfit, named my army the Toran army.

*Recruited Oboro, Fuyo, and Shigure. Not Sagiri though and I am sad because I like her :(

*Recruited Nordon, Zegai, and Sorensen after doing the whole Babbage sidequest.

*EQUIPMENT IS SO EXPENSIVE

*Met Urda, Babbage, Lu, Rahal, Roog, Flail, and Lance

*RECRUITED SAIROH!!! I decided I wasn't going to just go on with the game so since I needed funds anyways, I would do some fights, come back and check. Do some more fights, come back and check. After about an hour and a half, it worked! I sold like 34 salts, finally have space in my inventory, and I can stop stressing about Sairoh now! Also got weapons sharpened and skill points used :kaocheer:

*Saw how simple it was to calculate attack minus weapon level so that shouldn't affect stats later on

*Went to Beaverville. Met beavers. Already heard about the "Boss" a bit too soon, worried I messed up the event.

Total Stars of Destiny: 25/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/xTSN4K1.png

August 1st

*Went to the Lake Ruins, met Zweig and Lorelai. Did that whole dealio

*Did the Hatred Fortress battle. Felt a lot of pressure because of Wilhelm recruit. Actually got Victory+. It was amazing, I have never done as well as I did here in any of the more difficult war battles. I was knocking out ships left and right, I had a plan, I was organized. I'll probably never perform this well again x)

*Found it funny that I killed like 900 people to get them to evacuate to avoid killing people by flooding them

*FINALLY GOT MY SECOND FAVOURITEST HQ IN THE SERIES!! 30 hours or so in. It took me 37 hours to finish IV for reference.

*Recruited Viki, Zerase, Lorelai, Zweig, Muroon, Talgeyl, Goesch, Silva, Toma

*Successfully recruited Wilhelm and Muller with no issue! Didn't even need Viki! Speaking of Viki, yay teleporting!

*Recruited Subala, Bastan, Zunda, Belcoot, Marina, and Alhazred.

*Found it pretty funny with the Euram thing. I'd actually forgotten about that.

*I'm really excited to have a detective again, I missed that in IV. He doesn't give me the most useful info though.

*Having a hard time with enemies. I don't get much exp from them which indicates my level is close to where it should be and I've bought as much equipment as I can afford. Everything is so darn expensive though.

*I was going to recruit Richard and Genoh before the day was up but plans didn't work out. I was planning to get Richard and level up Alhazred in the meantime and come back for Genoh. But I guess because I spoke to the beaver, I got there and it was Genoh and Alhazred is 3 levels behind. So I have to go level him up some more and then get those two.

Total Stars of Destiny: 42/108

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http://i1174.photobucket.com/albums/...23451/0002.png

August 2nd

*Recruited Genoh and Richard

*Met Killey

*Went to the beavers

*Went to Lelcar

*Started the War Battle which was already intimidating enough, didn't realize I had ship troops. Took a break. Sharky won it for me with a Victory+ after much swearing and yelling.

*Laughed at the people who sided with the Godwins

*Recruited Orok, Volga, Wasil, Mohsen, Jeane, Taylor, Murad, and Nikea.

*Did two events with Linfa and was told I would find her in Raftfleet, didn't find her in Raftfleet :( Will try again another time

Total Stars of Destiny: 52/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/8UTimoG.png

Sorry guys, my schedule has been all off because I've been sick and my boyfriend has been sick and our roof is being repaired and I'm getting ready for school. So updates will probably start slowing down here soon.

August 3rd

*Went to Sable

*Spent all of my money recruiting Dongo

*Noticed I don't feel like a lot of the voices match the characters well

*Great acting from Sialeeds and Dinn. It was a good scene, I liked it

*Recruited Dinn, Roy, Faylon, Faylen, Linfa, Nakula, Sagiri

*Super pumped about Faylen and Sagiri as they are two of my favourite characters

*Went to Beaver Lodge, defeated Dolph. Much easier than I was expecting

*I keep worrying I'm under-leveled because my recruits are joining me at higher levels, like Nikea at level 40 and Richard at level 44, but things seem to be going well so far :shrug:

*Euram really needs to stop trying to kill me. At least he doesn't give up

*Recruited Isabel and Mathias

Total Stars of Destiny: 64/108

August 4th

*Went to the Island Nations Island

*PUPPET SHOW!! She's adorable, the puppet lady. I liked her impression of Brandeau and Flare

*Bernadette looks a lot like her father, who is quite the special guy

*Lots of call backs to Suikoden IV, which was pretty neat. It's a shame there was no save data bonus. But we did get the battle music from SIV for that one fight

*Recruited Bernadette

*Lym had her coronation, HQ was updated. I forgot how big it gets and I think it upgrades even more if I recall correctly. Took me a bit of time to get back in the swing of things.

*Recruited Byakuren, Miroon, Meroon, Moroon, Babbage, Lu, Chisato, Yahr, and Nelis.

*Did the whole Rune Cannon ship graveyard thingy

*Did the war battle, which went better than expected

*Fought Alenia which went better than expected

*MIAKIS :omgomg: Did the duel and you get the idea. Had a lot of stuff going on there, but it all went better and more smoothly than expected

*RECRUITED MIAKIS :omgomg:!!!!!!!! They aren't letting me use her yet though which is bum :nonono: Saw the whole Georg scene

*Finally got my Star of Destiny tablet!

*Recruited Levi, Bergen, Norma, Ernst, Gavaya, and Raven

Total Stars of Destiny: 83/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/XYC9Imh.png

Sorry guys, I've been busy and sick! But I did play some more today!

August 7th

*Got everyone available up to level 40. The Big Hole is a good place to grind (heehee)

*Did the Queen's Campaign, got Victory+

*Made my three parties. I had:
Roy, Josephine, Faylen, Lun, Zerase, Bernadette
Kyle, Viki, Jeane, Lelei, Dinn, Nelis
Prince, Lyon, Sialeeds, Miakis, Zegai, Lorelai
Battles went really well!

*Sialeeds betrayed me like a big fat betrayer

*I liked how all of the characters had special dialogue the night before the Queen's Campaign and the morning after. It was a nice touch

*And umm saw the touching flashback scene. Made me realize how long it had been since we were in Sol-Falena. Also, I cried a little bit at the part where Arshtat killed her husband. Was very touching. It got a little corny by the end but still some awesome scenes

*Pretty tired so will resume tomorrow

August 8th

*Recruited Galleon, Isato, Haswar

*Did the Eresh dungeon. Was my first time doing this one, I usually go for Euram if I go for all 108. Was tough but manageable. The boss fight was actually pretty short, but I lost everyone but Jeane and Miakis.

*Recruited Eresh

*Went to Port Whatzit and the Naval Base and recruited Hazuki and Cathari

*Was thinking of having Hazuki replace Zegai because she's prettier, but umm she can't equip a drain rune so boo

*Went to Dragonsville and recruited Rania

Total Stars of Destiny: 91/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/xvOYpqj.png

August 9th

*Met with Craig and them

*Went to Twilight Forest Ruins thing. Managed to get lost even with a map

*Boss fight went pretty alright

*Recruited Killey

*Struggling to remember what happened, it's been a long weekend. I think I did a war battle defending Lelcar and it was a Victory but my first not Victory+

*Eventually started having to travel the very slow way, which I don't like because I'm spoiled

*Recruited Wabon and Gunde

*Lots of back and forth

*Recruited Roog and Rahal

*Evacuated HQ

*Have to choose an all male party which I am not excited about :/

Total Stars of Destiny: 96/108

Oh goodness, I have some catching up to do

August 12th/13th

*Did the whole Gordius village thing, wasn't so bad. Georg RUINED my stat taking so it may or may not get done, depending. I'll try my best though :x

*Did a lot of back and forth again. Recruited Georg, Craig, and Lance.

*Recruited Flail (didn't remember Flail is a girl), Ax, Nick, and Yoran

*Did some war battles. Can't remember all of the stuff but I have been doing pretty well. One of them I only lost 89 units total, it was pretty good. Another one I lost not one single person. But there's been a lot of war battles and I can't remember which I did when.

*Got my HQ back!

*Went and recruited Haleth nervously. He was the last "missable" character (so long as you don't choose to reject Shula and recruited Eresh instead of Euram)

*Recruited Shula, Nifsara, and Sharmista. My first playthrough I though Shula was a woman for the longest time.

*Recruited Shoon. Did pretty good in boss fights. Got Stormfist

*And now I'm dreading the boss fight after boss fight after boss fight coming up. But I am prepping 3 parties, getting everyone's weapon up to lvl 14, and buying them good equipment. I bought a bunch of those fortune rings and I bring Egbert and Norma along, so the cash comes in pretty easily. I don't have 4 rings on each character, but I have quite a few, and I earn about 50k per fight. Most fights are pretty short so it's a good way to earn much needed cash. Will keep a separate save file when it's all done and proceed with the game. That way when sharky gets back we can watch all of the combo attack and bath scenes!

:save:Total Stars of Destiny 108/108:save:

Gosh that was something

August 14th

Oki doki! So I got everyone up where I needed them and went on with the game.

*Did the second to last War Battle and had 0 lost units! Did the last war battle which was much harder but got Victory+ still

*Did the boss battles and duels in the Sun Palace. Retook Sol-Falena!

*Did the mountain thing with my three parties. First boss with Lyon's team was the hardest for me.

*Beat the boss on the first try! It wasn't easy, but I did it! My party was Prince, Miakis, Zegai, Viki, Lun, and Faylen.

*WON THE GAME, WOO HOO! About 75 hours total. Record for most enemies defeated goes to the Prince, most damage dealt went to Lun, and best healer went to Miakis!

So some thoughts. I really felt bad for Euram when Sialeeds killed his dad. This game also did a much better job than IV of making this feel like a long adventure. When I got back to the Sun Palace it was like "wow, it's been a while!" as opposed to like with Razril when it didn't feel like that. Even thinking back on when we were staying in Rainwall felt like so long ago and getting the HQ.

I was really sad to leave the HQ. I spent a while there and I really liked it. Some of the endings made me sad, and Suikoden does a good job of showing characters all going their separate ways after the war. They were united by something and afterwards they all go their separate ways, kind of like in life. I did like Zunda's ending and Lun becoming the first female Dragon Horse rider. As usual, I liked the "night before" scenes.

I got the good ending where Lyon was revived and I also had enough Lym points that I ended up staying as a Commander of the Queen's Knight. I liked the Prince's new haircut!

So as far as recruiting, while Suikosource has great ones for the other games, the one for this game is not as good. So I used it with a walkthrough. You can find the guide here and the walkthrough here. Just don't use that guide by itself or you'll probably miss some stars.

I loved the game just as I did before. There are some awesome moments and some awesome scenes and some great characters. Looking forward to starting Suikoden I soon! It's the only one I don't have a hard copy of, so I'll be playing it on the PS3. So no Save Data bonus for Suikoden II, but oh well. The graphic change should be fun :lol: I was sad there was no bonus for SIV data though.

Also, my room in the Ceras Lake Castle would be where Norma and Ernst stay in the base of the round hall at the end of the hallway!

map
http://i.imgur.com/NJatcfC.png

August 14th/15th

*Started Suikoden! Ohh the graphics

*Did the Gregminster business. Went to Magician's Isle. I think it's interesting how much less of a big deal Leknaat is in this one. Like the others she's some ~mysterious woman~ who appears before the hero and speaks vaguely and everyone is like "wha?". Here it's "Oh yeah, Lady Leknaat! She lives on Magician's Isle and does work for us!"

*Went to Rockland and the mountain with the bandits and all that

*Had those sad scenes with Ted. Poor Ted :( He was much friendlier in this one than in IV

*Got the Soul Eater Rune. You know you're in for a treat when it's called the Soul Eater.

*Became a fugitive. Viktor brought me to Odessa

*Did the whole mountain thing and all that. Found myself saying "Shut Up Sanchez" everytime I talked to him. "My name is Sanchez" "Shut up Sanchez". "You can find the mountain over-" "Shut up Sanchez, I know where it is"

*Odessa died. Went to get Mathiu. Ah the Silverbergs.

*Went to Toran castle, beat the dragon thing. Thought it might be funny to have this be the ONLY castle I don't name Toran, but I named it Toran in the end. Ended up getting my HQ 4 hours in instead of 30 *coughSuikodenVcough*

*Time to go recruiting yay!

*Recruited Tir, Cleo, Gremio, Viktor, Mathiu, Camille, Tai Ho, Luc, and Yam Koo automatically

*Recruited Chandler, Kai, Maas, Marie, Onil, Sansuke, Sergei, and Antonio

*Spent an hour and a half level grinding so I could recruit Lorelai. Just played my 3DS while going through the woods in Great Forest Village. Was easy because I just had to hold down the left button and you just go in circles anyway. Still took a looong time though

*Find it amusing how much more minor of a role she currently plays compared to SV.

Total Stars of Destiny: 18/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/CWTGrGb.png

August 16th

*Recruited Kirkis, went to the treeville with him and was looked down upon by Elves

*Went to the dwarven village, was looked down upon by dwarves

*Recruited Valeria and Meese

*Did the vault, wasn't as bad as I remembered

*Treeville burned down. Recruited Templeton because why wouldn't you find a seven year old map maker by a burned down elven village.

*Read that Suikoden I takes place over FIVE YEARS! Suikoden V is like 5x as long and only lasts a year. Geez.

*Went to Kwanda's castle, did my first war battle, won with flying colours, did my first duel, fought a dragon.

*Didn't remember that choosing to go home SKIPS THREE MONTHS and doesn't allow character select for a while and I had more people to recruit

*Started over. Won the war battle, beat the dragon, defeated Kwanda

*Recruited Kuromimi (sharky won't stop calling him Gengen), Humphrey, Kwanda, Stallion, and Sylvina

Next goal is level 35 to get friggin Rubi. NOT looking forward to it :sigh: Oh well, at least the castle has free and unlimited healing.

Total Stars of Destiny: 40/108

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http://i.imgur.com/v75gO6p.png

This felt appropriate.

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*And now I'm dreading the boss fight after boss fight after boss fight coming up. But I am prepping 3 parties, getting everyone's weapon up to lvl 14, and buying them good equipment. I bought a bunch of those fortune rings and I bring Egbert and Norma along, so the cash comes in pretty easily. I don't have 4 rings on each character, but I have quite a few, and I earn about 50k per fight. Most fights are pretty short so it's a good way to earn much needed cash.

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I never really liked that as the "good" ending. It definitely makes sense for the story and characters, but all of the other games, save S3, have the Heroes going off on their own with a small group. Going with Georg seems to fit that the best, though that ending is lame.

And Suikoden I is the only one I haven't replayed recently. You're going to give me the itch again...

PLAY IT

It's pretty short. Especially after 5, my goodness

August 17th

*I was going to level up but then I read some people actually need to be level 40 for Rubi and that's just too much. So I'll come back for him

*Did recruit Fu Su Lu and Gon and Apple

*Did my next war battle and then lost to Milich and his stupid roses of death

*Recruited Flik, Chapman, Hellion, Jeane, Lotte (:omgomg:), and Mina. Need to get a nameless urn, that's going to take a while :sigh: Also ned to get up to level 40 eventually to get Eikei. I don't think him or Rubi have a limited time on them? I hope not

Total Stars of Destiny: 49/108

Sorry for slow update, I've had a lot going on. Plus it just took a while to find the Nameless Urn and Opal.

August 21st, about a month after I started this, yay!

*Recruited Gen and Kamandol and got the ship to cross the rapids.

*Recruited Jabba, Esmeralda, Tesla, Kimberly

*Went to Soniere Prison, Gremio died.

*Did the whole Milich war battle and barely won. Does anyone know if those lost numbers carry over? Doesn't seem like it

*Recruited Liukan, Anji, Kanak, Leonardo, Milich, Ivano, Kaslos, Qlon, and Kasumi

*Pahn won the duel against Teo!

Total Stars of Destiny: 64/108

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http://i.imgur.com/Kfr4AFi.png

I forgot to update yesterday so I may miss some things

August 22nd/23rd

*Went to get Fire Spears

*Recruited Georges (which took a bit because I am unskilled. Also, what kind of name is Georges?), Lester, Sarah, Blackman, Kage, Kessler, Ledon, Melodye, Kun To, Mose, Ronnie Bell

*Killed Teo

*Recruited Alen, Grenseal

*Heading to Warrior's Village. Can't remember why

*Recruited Kirke, Marco, Moose, Zen, Quincy, Fukien, Hugo, Window, Eikei

*Saw little Ted and Hix and Tengaar. Felt very sad for little Ted :(

Now I'm going to get everyone up to level 43 for stats. Hopefully no one joins past that level, I can't remember, but I can still grind more later on if that's the case.

****I haven't forgotten about SV's stats, but I have been busy and I will get them done. I have a save file in the final dungeon so I can go back and do it.

Total Stars of Destiny: 88/108

map
http://i.imgur.com/J3eX1tK.png

Sorry guys, been busy busy

September 3rd

*Went to Neclord's Castle. I had actually done this last weekend but it turns out I forgot to trigger the scenes in the Warrior's Village, so I had to do that again and then do Neclord's Castle over again.

*Recruited Hix, Tengaar, Clive, Crowley, Pesmerga, and Leon.

*Went to Dragonville and recruited Fuma and Kreutz.

*Went to Seek Valley, Ted died. Saw the sad scene with Black :(

*Recruited Milla, Futch, Joshua, Taggart, and Mace.

Total Stars of Destiny: 101/108

September 4th

*Did the Northern Checkpoint war which had the puny 4000ish soldiers. MANAGED TO GET CROWLEY KILLED AND RESET :nonono:

*Rescued Viktor and them

*Recruited Griffith, Kasim, Warren, Vincent, Maximillian, Sancho

*Went to Shasarazade, defeated evil clam and Sonya

*Sanchez :argh:

*Recruited Sonya for 108 Stars of Destiny wooohooo :kaocheer:

*Went to Gregminster which is much more depressing than beginning game. Defeated Ain

*SO MANY FIGHTS :nonono:

*Defeated the final boss. Was the easiest final boss, which made me happy. I didn't struggle at all, thankfully

*Final party was Tir, Flik, Viktor, Lotte, Sylvina, and Valeria. It's kind of bum that they choose half of your party for you though :/ I would have replaced Flik

*WON THE GAME WOO HOO

:save:Total Stars of Destiny: 108/108:save:

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http://i.imgur.com/pz1vLcr.png

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Started Suikoden II

*Named hero Riou

*Was betrayed by the country

*Ended up as slave labour for Viktor. He's not very good at keeping slaves though, I've always found that quite amusing

*Was "rescued" by Jowy

September 5th

*Partnered up with Eilie, Rina, and Bolgan and went home. Recruited Mukumuku :3

*Was framed and about to be executed. Saved by Fliktor

*"Rescued" Nanami

*Recruited Gengen, Rikimaru, Millie (:omgomg:), Kinnison, Shiro, and Zamza

*Met sweet little Pilika, went to Muse, came back to Toto in ruins, recruited Apple and Hanna

*Recruited Tsai, did the first war battle

*KILLED FLIK BY ACCIDENT!!!!!!!!!! Didn't know you could kill off a story character but he used his dying quote :shrug:

*Left Mercenary Fortress, got the True Runes

*Helped the spoiled Alex and saved Hilda

*Got arrested in Muse, agreed to help Jess

*Recruited Tuta, Anita, and Templeton. Feeling a bit anxious about Gilbert :ohdear:

Total Stars of Destiny: 15/108

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http://i.imgur.com/5RiVBQp.png

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*Partnered up with Eilie, Rina, and Bolgan and went home. Recruited Mukumuku :3

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*KILLED FLIK BY ACCIDENT!!!!!!!!!! Didn't know you could kill off a story character but he used his dying quote :shrug:

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I think the story characters can use their quotes, but won't actually die. If a regular character did that, they'd be gone permanently. It is a bit weird and not at all explained in any of the games.

September 6th

*Snuck in to the camp, did the scene with Jillia. I love Jillia!

*Returned, waited for Jowy

*Did stuff

*Recruited Gilbert first try woo hoo!

*Anabelle got killed :(

*Lost Jowy forever!

*Feeling super bad for poor Pilika

*Lost to Tai Ho 3 times (well, once was a tie) before finally winning

*Recruited Bolgan, Eilie, and Rina

Total Stars of Destiny: 19/108

September 9th

*Went to South Window and met back up with Flik and Viktor, who are now recruited, as well as Freed Y

*Was sent to North Window, got beat up by Neclord

*Went to the cave of the wind, temporarily recruited Kahn, got the Star Dragon Sword

*Went back to North Window, beat up the boss, got my headquarters!!!!

*Kahn left

*Went to the place to get Shu, who acted like a poo face

*Found the coin thanks to Richmond, who has saved the country now thanks to his meddling. Recruited Shu

*Sucked at the was battle :G

*Eventually won and recruited Barbara, Huan, Leona, and Luc. Have comment box now!!

*Named army the Toran Army/castle

Total Stars of Destiny: 27/108

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http://i.imgur.com/EWxgaPT.png

September 11th

Lots of recruiting today!

*Recruited Amada, Tai Ho, Yam Koo, Oulan, Richmond, Yoshino, Alex, Hilda, and Clive

*Went to Lakewest and recruited Taki

*Went to Two River. HATED CHACO WITH A PASSION, was broke for a little bit, had a bunch of stuff happen

*Recruited Hans, Chaco, Fitcher, Ridley, Tetsu

*Went back after the events, had a castle upgrade

*Recruited Stallion, Hai Yo, Shilo. Sid, Gabocha (:3:), Gadget, Meg (:jess:), Wakaba (:jess:), Tony, Hix (:omgomg:), and Tengaar

*Did the silly unicorn test. Still makes me laugh

*Also, won two cooking contests! I have so much fun with those, I wish you could set them off whenever and repeat them :( Won the first one 30-22 and the second one 29-22

Total Stars of Destiny: 54/108

September 15th

*Started the Greenhill mssion. Brought Wakaba, Meg, and Millie (of course)

*Did lots of thingies, recruited Emilia

*Jowy iz evil now oh no!

*Fought some soldiers, lots of back and forth

*Recruited Teresa, Nina, and Shin

*Escaped Greenhill

*Recruited Jeane and Yuzu!

Total Stars of Destiny: 60/108