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I have Been wondering this for some time now does SQU/\RE have something against royalty I mean they make all royal characters SUCK FF4's Edward was a yellow chicken (Kid talk for wimp) FF9's Garnet couldn't fight (her summons made up) Reina in FF5 and Gorden (I have not played FF2 but I hear he sux)
so whats the deal?
I just guess, royal characters cannot be cool, they have to have parent's or else that makes them a ruler, having a ruler in your party would be weird and parents = uncool. Uncool characters are not good.
I thought that Edgar and Sabin in FFVI were pretty cool. I've also heard arguments on boths sides that Edge in FFIV is cool or a wuss.
Forgot Edgar He is Cool and so is Sabin
Edge royal (????)
Yeah, Edge is the prince of Eblan, but then(SPOILER)Golbez attacks and takes his parents hostage. Then that crazy doctorexperimentson them and you fight them in the Tower of Babil.
Yeah, he's the prince of Eblan.Quote:
Originally posted by MJN SEFEIR
Edge royal (????)
I haven't really noticed royal characters being any worse, with the exception of Edward and possibly Gordon (not sure about him). Edgar and Sabin are both great, obviously. Garnet's meant to be a healer, not a fighter. I always thought Lenna was meant to be a mage too. On that note, FF5 SPOILEReveryone in FF5 besides Butz is royal, and they're all good characters.
Edward & Gordon are extremely weak!!!!
...but the whole FFV bunch, Edgar, Sabin, & also Lili(she's a wizard so she isn't a good fighter, look at FFI!) are nice powerful chars ;)
And what about the end of FFIV? (SPOILER)Cecil and Rosa are made King and Queen Or at least, that's what I remember.... (Great, I'm paranoid that I misinterpreted it or imagined it...)
And those characters weren't poor, were they? And I know this is a much later FF game but Princess Garnet wasn't all that bad with her Summons...
Not all FF royals are picky, prissy, spoiled-rotten wussies. Garnet can't fight well, yes, but she's still very brave and strong and is not afraid to get her feet dirty. Reina is great too, and so is Edgar, Sabin, and Edge.
Gordon doesn't have to suck. Like any character in FF2, you can level his stats out the ass to make him a bad mutha-SHUT YO' MOUTH!-I'm just talkin' about Gordon....
True, he has low stats when he joins up with you, but there's definitely a reason...
(SPOILER)
He's all pressured to be royalty but doesn't want to be so he's afraid to do much of anything, but for that he feels like a coward and just mopes around feeling sorry for himself until you bring him his brother's ring.
Also, I don't remember Reina/Lenna sucking, you can give her any job and she'll probably do just fine.
WHOAH!!!
Guess I'm Just Bias Note I forgot that (SPOILER)Gaulf was king
Now that we all think about it, the royal characters are badass exepct for like Gordon and Edward. And Edward was a chicken, for god sakes he was a bard, i'd rather be a Geomancer than a bard. Gordon is ok, just bring his stats up and hes a good. so Edward is only the bad royal character. but once you think about it, Rinoa was kinda royalty being the duaghter of that general guy ( i foget his name) her stats wern't top notch like some of the other characters but she was brave.
Edgar and Sabin in FFVI-Awesome
All the Royals in FFV- Awesome (if you used them right)
Edward in FF4- Horrible
Edge in FF4-Awesome
Therefor, most royals aren't that bad... What about the Onion Kids in FF3j... They are orphans taken in by the mayor which wouldn't be royal, but nobility.. or at least above commoners.
And FF2j, i don't think that because he's royalty he sucks, you just didn't get his stats up to par...
Onion kids rock!
OOC: What a great post :P
Gee , I guess some royal characters ARE good afterall, weird.
Edward was really a sissy, and Edge wasn't so cool...
I don't know who that's more insulting to, the bards or the geomancers O.oQuote:
Originally posted by Moshenokoji
Edward was a chicken, for god sakes he was a bard, i'd rather be a Geomancer than a bard.
doesn't matter they both suck. how about i go through all the FF classes that blow?
Beserker
Hunter ( Archer )
Blue Mage ( i just think they're stupid )
Trainer
Chemist
Bard
Dancer
Scholar
Geomancer
and thats the stuff off the top my head i haven't played Tactics to much so fogive me if i left out the crap in that game.
The deal you speak of is that the main character is not royal...therefore he is the underdog and he is least likely to save the day. It just makes the main character look more badass and heroic when he does save the day I guess. The royal characters are strong by normal standards..it is just that when the real bad guys show up...they are DOOMED! Only the main character and kind of main characters can TRULY save the day!Quote:
Originally posted by MJN SEFEIR
so whats the deal?
I can't believe you don't like blue mages, Moshenokoji. Blue magic was awesome in ffvi, strago was a wuss, but had some of the best spells in the game. Blue magic in ffix kinda sucked, but was still helpfull at times. I love blue magic. And it's also fun to learn.
As far as royals go, I think that Edgar and Sabin in ffvi more than make up for any disparities in any other royals. I thought that most of the characters in ffiv sucked anyways.
This is kinda along the same lines of the FF cliche: If you're the "President" of anything, you'll be the first to go. Or, at least that's what I've seen.
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