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Sorry if this has something bad on it or stuff i just copied and pasted it from the ff9 forum. And some1 told me to complain here so i will.



Ok..... There was a thread not too long ago about a ff9 love story where people write it and it keeps on going. As far as i know every1 liked it. It cracked me up reading it and thank u to the person who started the thread. Now some "SENIOR SITE STAFF" guy or watever says it is pointless crap and closes the topic. OK first of all who r u to say it is pointless crap? Hell if about friggin 500 people who go on this board daily had nothing negative to say about it y the hell wud u cancel it. Also Have u no sense of humour, i laughed my ass of while i read it. For people who dont know the thread im talking bout go back about 1 or 2 pages look to find ff9 love story. The thread may be closed but as long as i'm concerned it lives on! And for all i care if u dont agree with me then u can

Here is the thread if anyone else would like to look at it. I have no explanation really, but anyone else may feel free to defend either side.

...it looks to me as though the thread sort of degenerated from a 'love story' to a 'sexual innuendo' story, which may be part of the reason as to why it was closed.

That actually was pointless crap. So I don't agree with you. But that doesn't mean we can't be friends. ;)

People have a problem with that kind of stuff, both the subject matter and the childish humor factor, and so it's only right if we don't offend them with it. There are many other message boards where that kind of thing is welcome, so I'd advise seeking those boards out.

EDIT: Oh and I'm fixing your sig.

I thought ongoing-stroy / spam threads are disallowed anyways, aren't they?

Well there's that too.

Threads like that are a waste of space.

I wuv you too! ;_;

OMG!@!!@! YOU CLOSED THAT THREAD. IT WAS MY FAVOURITE THREAD!@!$

Actually, it did look pretty damn useless if you ask me. But you wont so, why did I even post in this thread?

End Communication!

I don't know that it was pointless if so many people were enjoying it. Isn't "having fun" a very valid point for doing something recreational (such as posting at a message board)? I'd say the main reason is that these type of threads were "outlawed" a while back because they became so numerous and were causing a strain on the database. If we allowed one, then we'd probably have to allow many (consistancy is the key to supressing chaos), which would put us back to where we were before that rule was made.

Since when is Eyeson about having fun?

Only certain people should be able to make spam threads. Like me.

*agrees that it ended up as pointless crap*

I only read like a quarter of this thread and none of the other thread....yet I feel I know enough to be a part of the arguement(no good can come of this).

Pointless crap? How so? Isn't this thread just pointless crap anyway? Agruing about wheather or not some thread is pointless....yep. It obviously wasn't pointless to the people who were talking about it. They were really into what they were talking about then you ASSHOLES had to go and prance around on their fun like a jaguar in bucket of speaker wire! Its like a pile of monkey feces that you shovel into your mouth like it some sort of tasty treat that you munch up and down on and scream for joy!

Definatly should've read the posts first, ed. Yup.

And don't call Spatty an asshole please. It hurts me on my insides.

like a jaguar in bucket of speaker wire ~edczxcvbnm

that alone makes all of this worth every second, pointless crap or not.

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Originally posted by ShlupQuack
Definatly should've read the posts first, ed. Yup.

And don't call Spatty an asshole please. It hurts me on my insides.

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I was hoping that everything I said from that point on would kind of be taken as a huge, overexaggerated joke...but I guess that one eluded you. I will read the stuff later but man ooooooo man is it hillarious...like when you say you can taste the mountain(sadly I really said that).

EDIT: I actually read the thread at this point and the post here and I must say that it seems like fun is only allowed when it is serious talk and not non-sense. If you will all excuse me I have to go talk to sephex about tasting the mountain and telling him about my MK 2 fanfic(go bereeky!)

I could have sworn we already had this argument. I love nonsense, but everyone else here hates it so it doesn't exist at EoFF.

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Originally posted by edczxcvbnm
If you will all excuse me I have to go talk to sephex about tasting the mountain and telling him about my MK 2 fanfic(go bereeky!)

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Oh my god he really did that. What a loser!

On topic...

Yeah, I agree with BOU. I think a little non-sense now and then would lighten this place up.

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Originally posted by BOU
I could have sworn we already had this argument. I love nonsense, but everyone else here hates it so it doesn't exist at EoFF.

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and that, kiddies, is what ASC is ALL ABOUT ;)

I agree with Shlup and ed. Why was it closed if people were having fun? It's not spam because it was on topic, and it's not as pointless as word association because it's not just one-word posts and the people posting find it funny. Probably the only reason I am still at EoFF is because of an interactive story in General chat ages ago that kept me coming back and posting.

Plus, it's one of the only threads I've started while sobre.

Bleys said big threads like that hurt the database somehow. That and the fact that there will be a berjillion of them if they're reallowed are what I imagine the reasons are for not allowing them. Unless there's some kind of secret admin plot to kill all fun.

And of course, ed approves of that thread. Need I say more? *wins the argument* *leaves*

Thank you Unne; finally someone actually gave a crap enough to back me up. Cheers guys.

I'm gonna go out and say that yes, one-sentence-per-posts stories are all crappy and tend to be unentertaining, in my opinion.

But if it's a continuous story where you can write a paragraph or so, I think that'd work.

EDIT: That one wasn't anything fantastic at all, though.

There's far bigger threads than that one out there (like almost everything in GC). I remember Bleys outlawing word association threads, but that's an interactive story. Aren't they different?

I don't think it was doing any harm, and people were enjoying it. But yeah, maybe they do cause database problems and such. Pity they couldn't just be kept in moderation, rather than all-out banning of that type of thread.

I think the only problem it causes in the database is that if there are a lot of them then you have to go in and clean things up more often. I don't see how more posts in one thread would actually screw up the database. It just doesn't make any sense...but then again it is a computer...but then again we never had problems in the past...except for that one word association thread that got to 1000 posts...but that was also a month or less after I joined the site and I am problably the one who remembers it.

They're not flat-out banned. Just the crap ones get closed. If a group of people make one that is genuinely funny and in good taste, then it's allowed to live, simple as that. However, a limit would be placed upon it due to the afore-mentioned space issues.

Simply enough, that thread was crap, and as such, I closed it. Deal with it.

And if more than one is created just delete the other ones. Surely one thread with a few hundred posts isn't going to do too much. What about the endless number of photo threads where the same people continually post photos of themselves albeit from slightly different angles? And the one's where people post their latest desktop theme, as if people actually want to see what image they decided to set as wallpaper today? And the one's where people post links to crappy flash videos or websites, that seem to be the onlt threads in General Chat lately? And the one's where people ask those stupid questions like "what colour are you eyes?", does anyone actually care? And what about the ones where people post those quotes that they said in chat but are only funny to themselves? And what about those stupid threads where people complain about threads being closed...oh wait.

Anyway I hope you get my point that the majority of threads here are pointless. Really, they are.

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Originally posted by Purgatory
They're not flat-out banned. Just the crap ones get closed. If a group of people make one that is genuinely funny and in good taste, then it's allowed to live, simple as that. However, a limit would be placed upon it due to the afore-mentioned space issues.

Simply enough, that thread was crap, and as such, I closed it. Deal with it.

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Please post what you would think is funny. That way I can make one that is entirely based on what you find funny and thus will not get closed.

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And what about those stupid threads where people complain about threads being closed...oh wait.

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You're absoloutely right, I better get cracking on closing some of those right now. xP

I still agree that if you make a better one, it'd be worth keeping. =P Try doing it in the Writer's Corner, though.

Thanks to Hootenanny I didn't eventually have to say that stuff about the photothreads which take up so much space and NEVER DIE...until someone decides to close it.

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Simply enough, that thread was crap, and as such, I closed it. Deal with it.

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What is crap to you isn't crap to other people. They were having fun and you put a stop to it. If it had degraded down in the the levels which I will not describe because all of your feeble hearts would not be able to handle the RAW POWER of it...then it would have been cool with me but it was no where close. All I see is that you felt it wasn't right so you decided to close it.

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Originally posted by Loony BoB
You're absoloutely right, I better get cracking on closing some of those right now. xP

I still agree that if you make a better one, it'd be worth keeping. =P Try doing it in the Writer's Corner, though.

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I made one that got sent to writer's corner, and nobody posted in after that. I don't think the writer's corner is the place to start one, though the FFIX forum wasn't a good choice either (I was just trying to generate activity there).

And what do you mean a better one? One that you like better? I like the kind of one I made, that's why I made it. The whole point is that it is made good by the posts.

As ed said, people were having fun, and I thought that was the whole point of coming here. Well it's the only reason I come here anyway.

Well, for a start, it belongs in Writer's Corner, and that's that. No way around that one, sorry.

Good? I mean, like, not people going on about their spears :joey: ...if you know what I mean. Make a love story rather than an orgy. And once you come down to it, it's the staff that get to decide what's good and what's not. Of course, that's why you should post threads like these, so you can dispute it. I personally think that that one was crap, so yeah. Of course, if you dispute it and the majority of staff agree that it should be ammended in the future, we'll look into it. *nods* But you gotta realise that sometimes what you like won't be what the Staff allow, and sometimes it's for reasons that you won't agree with either.

But dispute away, I aint gonna stop ya. It's cool.

Still, it does belong in Writer's Corner. If enough people like it, then you'll have success. You can't put threads in the wrong forums just to pick up traffic, otherwise everyone would post their help / feedback / lounge / gaming threads in General Chat. Y'no.

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Originally posted by edczxcvbnm
What is crap to you isn't crap to other people.

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Yeah, and I'm the one who makes the decisions, not you.

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Originally posted by Loony BoB
But you gotta realise that sometimes what you like won't be what the Staff allow, and sometimes it's for reasons that you won't agree with either.

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Exactly. I like looking at naked women but do I go asn make threads about them all the time? Nope. I have porn sites for that. This is a FAMILY FORUM. No way could that thread have been classed as appropriate for a family forum.

sending these threads to the writer's forum is even better than closing them! that's like sending someone to work at McDonald's in Greenland.

I appreciate that it would probably be difficult to put in place, but wouldn't it be possible to setup some way that threads can get age limits so you can only access them if your registered as being that old. I don't really care about story threads, but there are quite a few times in EoEO that important issues are a bit out of family range.

I agree with that thread being closed, as it's been said it's the staff that runs the site, and if they see a problem that's fair enough. R=U on the other hand, well some small strategic attacks should get that back on the allowed topics list MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA.

*Goes to have nightmares about working in a Greenland McDonalds*

Phoenix, it's possible for someone to change their registered age whenever they feel like it =P We just can't do that. Sorry.

Yeah I know that, to be honest it doesn't bother me much, I was just suggesting. I dunno if it's on a legal basis or not, but surely if the protection is based on family worries then it would be up to the family to make sure their children aren't registering older than they should be.

It's hard for people to see or realize this, but Eyeson would be crap if it wasn't famlily oriented. The vague 'family-oriented' blanket that the staff uses to eliminate so much content is actually preventing this place from turning into another teen hormonefest that comprises most of the internet today.

Well said, Del. *golf clap*

*buys Del a Pint*

Well yes of course, I was only suggesting giving the ability for some people to discuss certain topics whilst keeping children reasonably protected. The entire point of this thread is about giving people freedom of speech without hurting EoFF.

Agrees with everything that BoB, Purgatory and especially Del have said. If this were like any other board out there, I know that I wouldn't be here.

I went back and looked at the thread again thinking that I missed something that was actually not pointless. But no, I didn't.

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Originally posted by Phoenix 17
Well yes of course, I was only suggesting giving the ability for some people to discuss certain topics whilst keeping children reasonably protected. The entire point of this thread is about giving people freedom of speech without hurting EoFF.

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...if you want freedom of speech there are plenty of other message boards out there that are completely unmoderated. Personally, I like the idea of the limits of tastefulness being enforced.

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Originally posted by edczxcvbnm
but I guess that one eluded you.

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It didn't elude me, but the fact that you meant to come across as rude doesn't make it any less rude.

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Originally posted by Purgatory
Thank you Unne; finally someone actually gave a crap enough to back me up. Cheers guys.

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Unne said pretty much the same thing I did. :p

Now the main argument here seems to be what some people find entertaining versus what other people find entertaining. Much of the people here who have the power to act on those opinions and close un-entertaining threads have made their choice, and I suppose everyone else will just have to deal with it. That's what keeps this place from doing all that stuff Del said.

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Originally posted by ShlupQuack
It didn't elude me, but the fact that you meant to come across as rude doesn't make it any less rude.

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I didn't mean to be rude. I really thought it did elude you. I am not kidding.

Well...we seemed to have relived the ed of days past in this thread. I just wanted to try and fight for freedom like in the days that have long gone...again...I don't know why but I did.

As for going to another forum like people always say...I do so nay :D

OK.. thanx for clearing some of the stuff up. Now i wont swear "Since a 7 year old kid might get it from me" Also I dont no anyone that's 9 or older that hasn't sworn, seen porn or stuff like that. Also y do u care? It's their choice if they want to post in a "orgy" thread like that. Thats wat i hate about some people they set limtis for their kids and crap. like for eg. i saw this msn comercial about parent control and stuff, it was set teens 9-12! Bull**** how could they possibly know wat some kids 9-12 can go to or not. SAme thing here y do u care if they go threads like this, and the family forum par i dont get. Maybe i just missed the point. About the computers and that it screws them up i cant argue with that because i truly dont no. Also If threads like this caused major problems before then i also understand. But i have recommended this forum to people because o thought that it wasnt just boring old vg discussion... i guess i was wrong. Thanx to people who have agreed with me especially hootenanny because i started this thread because of the love story thread thread. and i will still post on EOFF but i'll go look for a forum that is more open to content like this. But cmon i saw my first porno when i was 7 its not the middle ages any more and just a boring love story would be dum it needs a little ogyness in it! And if u care about conent then u shud have said this board is from ages 8 to 10 because i cud care less if any1 swears. Thanx again to every1 who was with me and just my closing words Purgatory u r the 1st letter of fire, the 2nd letter of water, and the 1st letter of guy. figure it out if u can ! LOL LOL LOL LOL

You know what is really messed up. This is supposed to be a family forum based on games that are rated T for teen and not E for Everyone. That means everyone here should be 13 and up which means we should be able to do all this stuff.

I just wanted to say that because if finally just clicked with me and made me go "HEY! Thats what has been so off about their arguement which I could never quite put my finger on."

I never thought I'd say this but...




...I think I'm starting to like Aiyon better. :eek:

*reads the above three posts*

The system works. :D

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Originally posted by TheChosen1
But cmon i saw my first porno when i was 7 its not the middle ages any more and just a boring love story would be dum it needs a little ogyness in it!

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So you saw it last year? Good for you.

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my closing words Purgatory u r the 1st letter of fire, the 2nd letter of water, and the 1st letter of guy. figure it out if u can ! LOL LOL LOL LOL

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You think you are still going to post at eoff? Maybe I should just get rid of you before Purgatory gets a chance to get to you.

The only post that could possibly be considered a love story in that thread was the first post, from there it just turned into another teen hormonefest that comprises most of the internet today.

This is supposed to be a family forum based on games that are rated T for teen and not E for Everyone. That means everyone here should be 13 and up which means we should be able to do all this stuff. - ed

I think that Red answered all of these agruements quite well. ...if you want freedom of speech there are plenty of other message boards out there that are completely unmoderated. Personally, I like the idea of the limits of tastefulness being enforced.

I don't think that it's so much about this being a family forum as much as it's about a forum that has some taste, and the stuff posted in that thread certainly didn't have any in my opinion. I'm glad that we have staff that can tell the difference.

EDIT: You're just too quick for me, ;D. And I see that he's already banned. Good job. :)

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Originally posted by Leeza
I don't think that it's so much about this being a family forum as much as it's about a forum that has some taste, and the stuff posted in that thread certainly didn't have any in my opinion. I'm glad that we have staff that can tell the difference.

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Don't forget morals - there's a heck of lot of that missing in western society these days, let alone across much of the internet, so it's nice there's somewhere on the net (e.g. these forums) that still has some, or tries to stay that way. :p

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Originally posted by edczxcvbnm
You know what is really messed up. This is supposed to be a family forum based on games that are rated T for teen and not E for Everyone. That means everyone here should be 13 and up which means we should be able to do all this stuff.

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Just wanted to say one last thing; this site follows COPPA guidelines and as such, most members are indeed aged 13 and onwards. But what's the legal age of consent then? In the UK it's 16, three years ABOVE the COPPA guideline age. So, those three years worth of forum members is what we need to protect from the likes of you pervs =P

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Originally posted by Hootenanny
I never thought I'd say this but...




...I think I'm starting to like Aiyon better. :eek:

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Aiyon has far less members to attempt to control too though. I admit that the place can be moer fun 'cause someone can make a retarded thread without a couple thousand people following suit, which I think is the main difference between this board and any smaller board, and it sucks but it's something I have to deal with the same as you.

And I don't know why this was closed, but I think members should be able to post their opinions a bit more on this. I don't think this issue is quite as cut-and-dry as some other people seem to (which is fine, not critisizing you), especially considering that many people are saying the thread was closed because it was "tasteless" which is extremely subjective. I also thought ed's last arguement was pretty valid.

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Originally posted by Purgatory
Just wanted to say one last thing; this site follows COPPA guidelines and as such, most members are indeed aged 13 and onwards. But what's the legal age of consent then? In the UK it's 16, three years ABOVE the COPPA guideline age. So, those three years worth of forum members is what we need to protect from the likes of you pervs =P

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Actually, there's nothing stopping a ten year-old from lying and getting around the COPPA stuff, or from viewing threads without registering. But I honestly believe the ratio of young children to big vulgar kids is so overwhelming that it shouldn't really matter. The whole "family board" think is a cover to keep out a wide variety of lame crap that you see on other message boards.

I personally think that the "drama" that goes on around here is more damaging than any pointless crap thread, but that's me.

And good call about the small board/big board stuff, Mandee. There's no way a big board with a lot of people will ever beat a small board with all your friends. That's impossible, and we'll never aspire to do that. EoFF is a biggish place where you meet a lot of people and maybe meet new people and maybe talk about stuff and maybe have fun. It can't be all things to all people, and it never tries to be. Aiyon and the other spin-off boards are awesome to the people who go. But if Aiyon ever got huge (BoBo won't let that happen, but IF), it'd start to have all kinds of drama and wusses posting lame crap about how the board "should" be run and just a lot of people saying a lot of stupid things. That's how that works out.

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Originally posted by ShlupQuack
I also thought ed's last arguement was pretty valid.

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Who would have thought that one would have happened? :Oo:

Anyways, from what I understand COPPA is mainly to make sure this site doesn't take a kid's name and blah blah blah with out the parents consent. What does that have to do with those kind of 'pointless' threads? I read about some of it but got bored reading the COPPA guidelines :P

Thank you for opening this thread back up Shlup. I was afraid it would turn into one of those situation where the MODs decided to abuse their power like they were. I don't have a problem with that when it is all in good fun but in this case it wasn't.

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Originally posted by BOU
But if Aiyon ever got huge (BoBo won't let that happen, but IF), it'd start to have all kinds of drama and wusses posting lame crap about how the board "should" be run and just a lot of people saying a lot of stupid things. That's how that works out.

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I find that if you have someone dedicated to LAYIN DOWN THE LAW at a board, it generally works out, especially if you tell the people who can't live with the way the board is being run to learn to live with it or sod off. But yeah, the larger a message board gets, the more drama it contains. Unless it's FFWA, in which case it contains more drama than every other message board in the history of man combined.

Not sure if you were disagreeing with me or not...

Both, sort of. I'm basically saying that BoB has the right to say how the board should be run and if he gets overrun with idiots trying to tell him otherwise, he can tell them to piss off. That's what I'd do. That's where I disagree with you, anyway. =P The rest of it... yeah, when a board gets bigger, you generally need more rules. Which sucks. But whatyagonnado.

So... I don't tell idiots to piss off? Orr, I don't think BoBo has the right to tell idiots to piss off?

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I find that if you have someone dedicated to LAYIN DOWN THE LAW at a board, it generally works out

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thats why we have our secret illegal enforcer.

*lays down with The Man*

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hmm ok
nice

I actually don’t tell idiots to piss off. My terms of service does it for me. It works quite effectively. It’s even managed to make a couple of former idiots reform themselves somewhat.

And it’s not really idiots I want to drive away, because there are some idiots who still manage not to disrupt the forums. Well, I suppose there aren’t any bona fide IDIOTS who don’t manage to do that, but that’s not the point. The point is that I mostly want to drive away people who spam horribly, who keep telling the staff how to do their job, or who seek power and power only. Everyone else can pretty much stay as long as they’re not going to disrupt the forum in some other unforeseen manner.

I dunno. Just read the ToS. But I think it works.

If it was the content of the thread that was the problem, then you should have just said so when it was closed (though I think you're blowing it out of proportion a bit, we're not perverts you know...well I can't speak for ed). I didn't start the thread for the content, I just wanted to get another interactive story going. They're fun for the people who post in them, and they're not pointless. Anyway I'm not worried anymore, this clearly isn't the place for them now.

Oh and about the Aiyon comment......I was drunk.

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The point is that I mostly want to drive away people... who keep telling the staff how to do their job, or who seek power and power only.

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Hehe.

I don't like the Terms of Service, but that's just personal opinion. There's far too much swearing for a start, and the "pretty liberal" thing is a bit of a stretch for imagination after reading all of that. I think that if ToS/ rules are necessary then they should be presented in a friendly manner, not a defensive one.

I’m probably going to tone down the swearing when I can be arsed to revise it — I’ve already thought of a few omissions I shouldn’t have made. Still, in terms of what we allow, we’re a lot more liberal than most boards, I think — it’s not like we have 100% free speech, of course, but as far as spam and the like is concerned, we’re really lax about that.

Or maybe I’ve just been fooled into thinking we’re liberal because I’ve spent so much time at FF:WA, which is only a liberal board in that it allows far too much flaming, and in every other sense of the word is a ridiculously conservative board. Meh.

No, you're right. FG is a pretty relaxed board, and that's why it's a shame the ToS doesn't really give the same impression that the board does. It needs to be more happy. Yeah.

When I wrote that, I was really pissed off at a couple of choice morons for constantly spamming, asking ridiculously stupid questions that could be answered simply by reading the thread more carefully, and asking me to make them staff members. Those two have settled down now, though, and other things have calmed me down a bit, so now that I’m not in such a bad mood I’ll have to revise it. Meh.

There's no way a big board with a lot of people will ever beat a small board with all your friends. That's impossible, and we'll never aspire to do that. EoFF is a biggish place where you meet a lot of people and maybe meet new people and maybe talk about stuff and maybe have fun. It can't be all things to all people, and it never tries to be. Aiyon and the other spin-off boards are awesome to the people who go. But if Aiyon ever got huge (BoBo won't let that happen, but IF), it'd start to have all kinds of drama and wusses posting lame crap about how the board "should" be run and just a lot of people saying a lot of stupid things. That's how that works out. --BOU

I think the opposite can be true too though. I think most small boards that intend to stay small forever that consist only of a small clique of friends aren't much more than a glorified long-term private chat session, and it's next to impossible to talk about anything serious, and it also seems even harder for new people to join in than it does in places like this. Meanwhile those of us who don't belong / don't have a friend who has his or her own personal tiny MB would like to have somewhere nice to go. I don't think it's right to say that one is better than the other.

EoFF was half fun, half drama from the very beginning. That's the only reason I like it. The only reason this place lasted at all is because the first group of 7 or 8 of us actually cared, in a 100% wuss-like drama sort of way. Without that "drama" none of us would be here talking right now, and there would be no Aiyon or ASC or anything.

[q=Dr Unne]I think the opposite can be true too though. I think most small boards that intend to stay small forever that consist only of a small clique of friends aren't much more than a glorified long-term private chat session, and it's next to impossible to talk about anything serious, and it also seems even harder for new people to join in than it does in places like this. Meanwhile those of us who don't belong / don't have a friend who has his or her own personal tiny MB would like to have somewhere nice to go. I don't think it's right to say that one is better than the other.[/q]I tend to find myself agreeing with that, especially since I’ve seen some boards like that. Occasionally some new member will get lucky and find themselves in the favour of the longterm elite there, but I really don’t have any interest in joining a board where the ruling class is basically a clique.

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EoFF was half fun, half drama from the very beginning. That's the only reason I like it. The only reason this place lasted at all is because the first group of 7 or 8 of us actually cared, in a 100% wuss-like drama sort of way. Without that "drama" none of us would be here talking right now, and there would be no Aiyon or ASC or anything.

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I think you and I have completely different definitions of “drama.” :p Care to give yours? I’d give mine, but I’m not exactly sure how to word it. :-\

I'm just guessing what BOU means by drama. Something like an admin turning into an enemy and huge fights over whether we could keep the domain name eyesonff.com, and almost banning a member because we thought they made a second account and posted things that looking back aren't even that bad, and almost banning Bleys because we thought he was a spammer even though there were less than 20 people at the MB, and RSL leaving because he got in a fight with Sean or something, then coming back later, and CONSTANTLY looking for new hosts and wondering every day whether EoFF would just go away forever, and pretty much making a big deal out of everything that ever happened even though looking back now nothing was really that bad. That's what went on in the EZBoard days, and it's gone on ever since then. There's a definition of "drama" for you, making a big deal out of unimportant matters.

Then there's the other kind of "drama", as in talking about serious matters, and getting to know each other, and getting to like each other, and trying to help each other be better people and be happy. We had plenty of that too. I think the first kind of drama directly follows from the second kind of drama. All of that stupid junk showed that we cared, about each other and about the MB by extension. Friends make big deals out of unimportant crap because unimportant crap seems important when it involves your friends.

Maybe it's annoying to the people NOT involved in it, but to the people involved in it all it seems totally natural. Maybe it seems like there's too much drama at big MBs not because people behave any differently, but because not everyone is friends with everyone else. It's not that there's more drama, it's that there's more stuff going on that every person isn't a part of, and it seems different looking in from the outside than when you're in the middle of it. Maybe EoFF still exists because people still care and still make a big deal out of unimportant crap. Or maybe it'd still exist otherwise, but it would suck way more.

The Man: You're just talking for the sake of talking, I think. You haven't replied to one single thing that I've asked you. :aimwink:

Carpie: "Drama" being pointless politics and stuff like that. It existed in a small board way when EoFF was an infant, but it exists in a different way now

The Smallsmall Boards are fun for the people who go to them, yes. That's what I said.

I don't remember getting in a fight with sean...

The drama here can be annoying to me. I tend not to pay a ton of attention, so when I catch bits and pieces of it, I'm really confused.

As for the original topic of this thread, I would have to say that I would have closed that thread without a second thought had I happened upon it.

I think people see more "drama" than there actually is and make things seem a lot more important and earth-shattering than they actually are. Who cares? It's just life. Get over it.

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The Man: You're just talking for the sake of talking, I think. You haven't replied to one single thing that I've asked you. :aimwink:

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I haven't? That's not what I thought. If you need more clarification on crap, tell me. If I didn't clarify something it's probably because I decided I didn't care about it enough to bother clarifying it. :aimwink:

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Carpie: "Drama" being pointless politics and stuff like that. It existed in a small board way when EoFF was an infant, but it exists in a different way now

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OK that's what I thought you meant. Mohh, I think every board that has people that care has that sort of thing, especially in the early days, although Fool's Gold has had it more in the sense that other people attempt to unleash drama on it and then I have to quell it. TDH has had more of that sort of drama, actually, than Fool's Gold, which I guess sort of makes sense since TDH is a small board and Fool's Gold isn't really, anymore.

This is the longest thread i ever started, just for the record, i did not tell staff how to do their work or anything, i implied that they shud jus kool off. But damn! this thread is long and it shifted to a completely different conversation about 4 times, can i ask u people to stick to the topic please. Anyway there had been longer threads then this before but no matter im happy plus i was banned and it took me quite alot to come back to this forum, and the person who took my quote "Im still gonna post on these boards" and then banned me . What i said was a compliment idiot, i meant that even thought they got too much content security or watever i still like them but u had to go and ban me . Now im back and ill be more careful with wat i say, but it doesn't mean that i changed my mind on what i said at the start of this topic.

One reason we're not cooling of off your attitude is because it helps prevent the forums turning into a craphole like almost any other large games forum out there. You were banned for multiple reasons, and your recent posts haven't shown any change (including as is evident in you calling whoever you're talking to in that post there an idiot), so goodbye.

This threads died many times too, it seems, might as well put it out of it's misery.