Useless Characters

When playing Final Fantasy 6, I rarely use the characters that enter your party later on in the game.. I really hate Strago and Relm, and the 'secret' characters aren't anything special either, in my opinion. I use Locke, Celes, Sabin, Edgar and Terra mostly, and the others... well... I keep em trained, learn them to use Espers, and I also keep em well-equipped, but when on a mission or a task, I always leave them behind. I'm probably missing some nice dialogues because of this, but meh.. They suck, in my opinion. That sketchy thing Relm does just blows. And I really can't be arsed to take Gau to the Veldt to learn every friggin Rage he can. And Cyan....?

Sheesh.

Cyan.

What a dweeb.

Anyway, I don't have this in other FF games, just 6. But I still think it's the best FF there is. Weird. Anyone else has the same thing?

My parties usually consist of Cyan, Edgar, Celes, Setzer, Umaro, GoGo, and Shadow.

But I generally just pick who I think is the coolest at the time.

Yeah, I pretty much agree. I'm not much of a magic person, I like to use brute attack. So I tend to use the characters like Sabin, Locke, Cyan, etc. Shadow rocks, but I can never seem to keep him for very long. And I do find Strago and Relm to be useless in battle, for the most part.

In my opinion, FF6 is the best one, probably because it's the first I ever played. I'm guilty of character bias in every game of the series, though.

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Originally posted by Marcus
And Cyan....?

Sheesh.

Cyan.

What a dweeb.

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BLASPHEMY! *stabs with Masamune*

Oh come on. That whole flower and letter thing was too emberrasing for words. I squinted my eyes and tightened my butthole through the whole scene. Ugh.

Forgot about Setzer. I never use him either. I only befriended the gambling-addict for his neat airship. He's got a kickass outfit, though. :cool:

Don't underestimate the power of Cyan man, his swrdtechs are very powerful, and even his normal attacks are strong too. If you can't take a little mushy video game love, then don't play RPG's. Setzer can be rather powerful too, especially with the fixed dice, or doom darts. GP Rain also does a crap load of damage. As for Strago and Relm, they are really meant to work as a pair i think. It is almost impossible to learn all of Strago's Lores with out the help of Relm's Control power. Once Strago does get all of his Lores, he becomes quite a powerful spell caster, and Relm actually has more magic power then Terra. I know everyone argues that Terra can Morph and get double the strength and magic power, but not usualy double the damage, because of that damn 9999 damage limit. Really all of the Characters have their own little advantage. I personally prefer Locke, Celes, Shadow and Umaro in my party.

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Originally posted by LingaringBell
Don't underestimate the power of Cyan man, his swrdtechs are very powerful, and even his normal attacks are strong too.

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and he reads a porn magazine, too :D

SwdTechs suck. While you're waiting for a DECENT SwdTech, the enemies are beating up on you because it takes so goddamn long to get one of them.

Cyan and Setzer were really the only characters I never found myself using.

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and he reads a porn magazine, too :D

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*eye-twitch* ....um......... WHAT?!

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Originally posted by Wrexsoul
*eye-twitch* ....um......... WHAT?!

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(SPOILER)after you get Cyan to join your party in the WOR, go back to Mt. ZoZo with him in your party (you don't have to but it'll be funny). Go to the peak where you found him and there'll be a key. pick it up, then go back to the chest you couldn't open before. open it and you'll find a machinery manual, which Cyan has been reading so he won't be afraid of machines...then you'll find a porn magazine. Cyan will jump out and say "hey that's mine!"

i dunno if that's in the American edited version, though.

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i dunno if that's in the American edited version, though.

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I don't think it is... then again, it's been years. I can't remember. He DID turn down that bimbo in Nikeah, so I didn't think he was the type. Caught me off-guard to read that... I FIGURED it was a different version.

But anyway, Cyan isn't a dweeb. He has some pretty cool SwordTechs; I like to use him in battle. So the flowers and letter thing was a bit cheesy -- just humor the man, he's grieving.

It's only in the Japanese version. It was one of many sexual innuendos that was removed from the American version of the game at Nintendo of America's insistance.

If you want to use a SwdTech, just get everyone else to attack before Cyan, so when they are attacking, you will have plenty of time to power up for whatever SwdTech skill you want to use.

As for the most useless characters, I usually never use Sttago, Relm, Gau, and Setzer; usually only when I have to, or when I'm trying to level up everybody.

My main party usually consists of Terra, Sabin, Shadow, and Umaru.

By the time everyone else is done attacking, the first person who attacked is almost ready to attack again. At least that's the way it works in my party, with all the Speed bonuses I give my characters (odin rox np). No matter how you slice it, SwdTech is a waste of time for me.

I almost never use Strago and Relm. I have no use for them. And I only use Cyan and Setzer when I have to.

i rarely ever use Gau (which i use only at the Battle of Narshe) or Relm. after them is Umaro and Gogo.

I'd use Umaro and Gogo a lot more myself if their stats didn't suck so much. Or if they could be remedied with Espers.

I always used Setzer, not because his skill is any good but because he's rad. :) I suck.

Other than that I tended to switch, Locke pretty often, though. And never Gau.

I never use Umaro or Gau. I don't get them. You can't controll one of them and you half-way controll the other.
My main team is ussually Shadow, Terra, Sabin, and Celes.

Terra: I use her as a backup caster in case Celes dies

Locke: Used him for the sake of stealing, nothing more.

Edgar: Wtf? Tools are LAME.

Sabin: WTFFF?! Blitz is LAME!!!

Celes: I use her a lot, for the sake of Runic. She's the only main spellcaster anyway.

Shadow: Increase his speed and give him spare weapons (most of them were useless stuffs stolen by Locke) and he'll be the fastest and most painful demon around.

Cyan: What makes you think he suck? Besides, Dispatch is already quite good. I was laughing like mad when my party members died and I have Cyan setting up Retort. The boss hit him and...well, the boss died =\

Strago: I though old men were powerful. I was wrong :P

Gau: Ghey, in a good way.

Relm: What's up with her man, though Control works well for training Gau and Strago.

Umaro: Hah! Now here's a guy who can pack a punch...until my Sabin went overleveling with Offering and Genji Glove =\

Mog: Omg, this guys r0><012z!!!

Setzer: Slot doesn't work for my emulator. Oh well, at least he can toss my 99....999 gpsp

Gogo: Well, his stats may not be that good but hey! He can do EVERYTHING!!!!

Terra: I used her all the time, mainly as a magic-caster.

Locke: Only stealing, really.

Edgar: He was my first backup character.

Sabin: Always used him all the time. Bum Rush is PIMPED.

Celes: Backup to Terra.

Shadow: Never really used him that much.

Cyan: Also used him all the time. Loved his sword techs.

Strago: Never used him.

Gau: Never used him.

Relm: Never used her.

Umaro: Never used him.

Mog: Never used him.

Setzer: Used him all the time. GP Throw or whatever it was.

Gogo: Never used him.

I went the magic casters path in this game.

The armor that Relm can equip can make her invincible to magic. And putting a Genji Armor set and a Force Armor set on Celes and Terra makes them nearly
invicible against magic attacks too.

Our Mblocks consisted of

Terra: 59%
Celes: 79%
Relm: 55%

There are a lot of items that if paired to already magically powerful characters... it can make some major magic stats.

But I use

Terra
Celes
Relm
and
Locke

because Locke is the luckiest character.

I use to use Gogo cause he could mimic the 3 magical maidens spells, plus, could use any of the spells they knew on his own. =/ But Locke is my choice.
Although I still say GOGO is very neat.

If you want a powerful group leaving out Gau is a big mistake. He's easily the most powerful character in the WoB and in the WoR only Sabin is stronger with Bum Rush (though Gau still wins in the Defense catagory with Snow Muffler and high evade). That doesn't include cheap relics thrown on otherwise weak characters.

I tend to stay away from relics that are cheap or make a character abnormal. What I mean by that is the Genji Glove makes a character not have a sheild anymore which is not standard. Now that character is a lot weaker and in tough battles it turns into a significant liability. Characters like Edgar and Cyan already die fast enough as it is. The Genji Glove just adds insult to injury. The Offering is just cheap. If a character can't deal big damage without these toys then they shouldn't be fighting. These relics just compensate for a character's lack of ability and take up relic slots that can be used for other important relics. That's my mentality behind the use of relics.

Terra: I switch off between Terra and Celes just because I like having a female in the party, and these two can get powerful with the Illumina late in the game.

Locke: Locke absolutely sucks. Steal is worthless.

Edgar: Tools is useful early in the game but loses it's value later on and Edgar's defense is lacking.

Sabin: Here's one of the most useful characters throughout the game. I use him a lot. Nothing beats Bum Rush if you can do it consistantly.

Celes: Read Terra's description. Runic is pretty useless but her stats are a little better than Terra's.

Shadow: Shadow is a very capable fighter and I like using him. Interceptor blocks a lot of attacks and provides some powerful attacks as well. Shadow also has good stats.

Cyan: Cyan is pretty good if you know how to use him like others have described above. His defense is unimpressive however so he dies a lot. I use him in about hal of my FF6 games.

Gau: Gau has always been in my parties since I started playing FF6 in 1995. Unfortunately he makes the game to easy. Then again FF6 can be edited nowadays. :)

Setzer: Setzer is weak but not as bad as Locke although his stats are also inimpressive. You can consistantly pull of Slot attacks which do moderate damage. Getting 3 bars is fun.

Mog: Mog is alright but not as good as Gau. You don't want 2 automatic characters in your party so since Gau is already in my party Mog walks around in the airship.

Strago: Strago sucks period.

Relm: Relm makes a decent magic user but sketch freezes the game too much so that makes her rather useless.

Umaro: As with Mog having 2 automatic characters in your party is bad. Gau is already in my party so Umaro stands next to Gogo on the airship.

Gogo: Gogo's stats suck but since he can do Bum Rush he does make his case as being a decent fighter. However his defense is terrible so he's always among the first to drop dead.

From a statistical point of view let's see which characters really do suck. I left out defense, magic defense and battle power because those stats are mainly determined by equipment. I also left out the evade stat since it does nothing. Equipment only has a large effect on magic block in the WoR.

Vigor:
Umaro 57
Sabin 47
Gau 44
Cyan 40
Edgar 39
Shadow 38
Locke 37
Setzer 36
Celes 34
Terra 31
Mog 29
Strago 28
Relm 26
Gogo 25

Speed:
Locke 40
Shadow/Gau 38
Sabin 37
Mog 36
Celes/Relm 34
Terra/Umaro 33
Setzer 32
Edgar/Gogo 30
Cyan 28
Strago 25

Stamina:
Umaro 46
Sabin 39
Gau 36
Edgar 34
Cyan 33
Setzer 32
Locke/Celes 31
Shadow 30
Terra 28
Mog 26
Relm 22
Gogo 20
Strago 19

Magic Power:
Relm 44
Terra 39
Umaro 37
Celes 36
Mog 35
Strago/Gau 34
Shadow 33
Edgar/Setzer 29
Locke/Sabin 28
Gogo 26
Cyan 25

Magic Block (Universal Evade):
Gau 18
Mog 12
Shadow/Celes/Relm 9
Terra/Strago 7
Gogo 6
Umaro 5
Sabin 4
Locke 2
Cyan/Edgar/Setzer 1

Combined Rankings: (This does not consider defense, attack power or special ability.)
Gau 15
Umaro 17
Sabin 23
Shadow 26
Celes 28
Terra 31
Locke/Mog 32
Relm 33
Edgar 34
Cyan/Setzer 38
Strago 45
Gogo 49

The combined rankings help show the fighting ability of each character individually. As you can see there is a wide range here, helping to provide some definitive information. Defense and attack power are more dependant on what equipment multiple characters can use. For each character, consider the usefullness of their special ability along with the different catagories of equipment they can use. This combined with the total rankings will give you an idea of how effective each person is in battle in comparison to others. HP and MP for each character are identical except for a minor modifier that provides very small variations. Characters who are around when you receive your first espers (Locke, Celes, Edgar, Sabin, Cyan, Gau) get a small stat advantage over the characters you get later in the game.

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Locke: Helped me get good items, plues was pretty good with the Masamune (sword, not esper)

Terra: Didn't use her mush

Celes: Found her to be good.

Sabin: Not my favorite, but the best at fighting.

Edgar: Cool, but weak. Although, despite it's unreliability, Air Anchor is cool.

Cyan: I like him. Jim and Sabin make a spiffy combo

Shadow: I always found him to be like Locke, except in place of steal, he had throws, and he had more fighting-oriented stats. So I use him.

Gau: Kinda random...

Relm: Never used

Strago: Went off and on when using him

Mog/Umaro: Never really used 'em

Gogo: Although he isn't the best fighter, He IS. How? He doesn't need espers; I've got him using every spell in the game. Plus Blitz and SwordTech

You guys keep bashing Cyan and the automatic characters yet none of you have come up with this simple yet powerful team!

Cyan, Mog, Umaro, and Gau. Gogo can be substituted if desired.

Mog Umaro and Gau attack on their own while Cyan charges his swordtech. It works rather well actually.

I found no chracter useless I would post how much I used each character but I don't have time.

if ff6 has a weakness, it is there are TOO MANY CHRACTERS. umaro, mog and the gilgimesh guy(forgot his name) have no development really. i got them to lv99 but never used them 4 plot parts...only in the last dungeon were they used. i liked how that dungeon made sure all your characters were decent to get by.

but again 4 the others, there was just too many. its ff6's credit as a divine game that despite the congestion they mostly get good develpment. though i,d say only terra, celes, locke ,edgar and sabin get ff7 quality development. and its usually them i use.

its normally those with the direct links to the plot that i pick, hence the above.

for ff7(slightly off topiv) its cloud, tifa and barret(original avalanche), ff8 its squall, rinoa and..ermmm the other 4 were poor, so selphie cause cuter.

ff9 zidane, dagger, steiner and viva or freya. ff 10 its tidus, auron and yuna.

so yeah i,d say that is what fuels mine and most choices.

Here is my dream team.
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Terra:
Equipped
Primary Weapon: Illumina
Primary shield: Paladin Shield
Armor: Force Mail
Helmet: Force Helm
Relic: Econmizer
Relic: Gem Box.
Additional Information / Personal Notes:
Primary offensive spell caster. Combining Econmizer and Gem box is lethal. Using the Paladin Shield, makes Terra a barracade from almost anything.

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Celes:
Equipped
Primary Weapon: Atma Weapon
Primary Shield: Aegis Shield
Helmet: Genji Helm
Armor: Genji Mail
Relic: Offering
Relic: Genji Glove
Aditional Information / Personal Notes:
Primary melee attacker. Using Atma Weapon combined with the power of Offering and Genji glove, gives Celes the lethal melee power hitting an opponet very hard; and many times.

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Locke:
Equipped
Primary Weapon: Ragnarok
Primary Shield: Aegis Shield
Helmet: Genji Helm
Relic: Econmizer
Relic: Gem Box.
Additional Information / Personal Notes:
Primary curative spell caster. Using the combination of Econmizer and Gem box offers low cost of mana with greater disturbution.

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PHEW; Written by myself.

Never use...

*Umaro- Just don't like him. Sometimes I name him Assrag.
*Gau- Never got into that whole monster ability thing.
*Strago- Never got into that whole blue magic thing.
*Relm- Just didn't want to use her. To many good enough characters already.

I use often...

Locke- Just do, no real reason.
Sabin- Blitz and I give him good magic.
Edgar- Tools and I give him good magic.
Terra- Magic.
Gogo- Having Blitz, Tools, Mimic, and Magic is awesome.

Runner ups...

Shadow: Fun to use sometimes.
Mog: Moogle Charm when I am lazy.
Cyan: When I am sick of Blitz and Tools.
Setzer: The slot thing is fun to me. Also, he is a back up magic dude.

Relm was good for making glitches in the game. Cast invisible on a couple creatures, have relm sketch it. You get messed up items, new spells. It's crazy

o.o really? i've GOTTA try that!

i heard somewhere that if you sketch Gau when you meet him in the WoR, their stats will switch, and you get 99 Atma Weapons.

Yeah, you sketch invisible enemies and wierd things happen. Kinda funny though when the people cheating end up deleting all their save games (one of the possible outcomes of using this bug). But this treadis about useless characters, so let's see 'em:

Terra: All but useless, strong attacks, good amour and strong magic power. A staple character for any team.

Locke: Most underrated character in the game. Exceptional speed, excellent weapons and amour, plus the only sometimes useful steal ability. Unless you're playing a modified rom (i90east's version) that allows enemies to dodge attacks, Locke is an excellent fighter, especially midway through the game when using Hawkeye weapons. Use him at the beginning of the game, and he's an important addition late in the game.

Mog: Can be good, but there are other better characters. Dances are useful early in the game, Snowmufflers give perfect defense late in the game. I use it as a weak attacker or a defensive healer late in the game.

Edgar: Tools are useful and can lead to many different stategies. Below average amour and weak magic hold this character back in other areas. Give him the best stuff he can equipe, put him in the back, and start hacking things up with a chain saw!!!

Sabin: Huge damage potential throughout the game. Weak defense however with low magic power can make him a liability. Again, put him in the back and bum rush away.

Celes: See Terra. Exactly the same since I rarely use morph. I love high magic power characters.

Shadow: High stats all over. Defense may be suspect however throw causes massive damage from the back row. So keep him back there with those dirt cheap ninja stars. A decent magic user as well.

Gau: Another underrated character. While some people may argue that he is the most useful, versatile character in the game, there are only a limited number of rages that work well. Give him a snowmuffler, max his defense and watch your invisble warrior scratch up the enemies.

Strago: Moderate to high magic power, low defense. Give the guy a goldhairpin (economizer if you're cheap) and get grandtrain and white wind. Any esper spells he has are a bonus. Very effective character if you get the two big blue magics.

Relm: Poor kid get's no attention. Highest magic power in the game, excellent armour selection, useless everywhere else. You get her midway through thr game, so she's at a disadvantage in terms of magic learning. Give her Behemoth suit and put her in the back with a raft of spells to make her effective and give her a heal rod to help the others in the group. Probably the worst FFVI character because of the amount of time required to make her useful.

Umaro: Gauntlets and rage rings make this guy a bruiser. Unfortunately, if the enemy gets a piece of him with a spell he doesn't absorb he's up the creek. Not much use at low levels, but is fun to have if you over level (40+ at the end) throughout the game.

Gogo: Can do anything. Unfortunately poor amour/weapons selection with low stats makes him a weaker version of all the other characters in the game. Use him if you require the abilities of two or more characters and you just don't have the space for them in your party, or if you need another character with all the spells in the game and you're too lazy to do it yourself.

Setzer: GP is an ok damage producer at higher levels, slots are unpredictable and only able to equipe heavy armour, low magic defense. Only useful to offering+genegi glove users (in other words, not me). He sucks with Relm IMO.

Cyan: Heavy hitter from front row, powerful sword techs from the back. If managed properly (as discussed by others) swordtechs are extremely useful. Unfortunatel he tends to have low magic defense which get's him in trouble late in the game when enemies all use strong magic. All in all a decent character, but nothing to write home about.

Sum it up:
Especially good characters:
Terra
Shadow
Celes
Gau

Especially bad ones:
Relm
Setzer
Umaro (unless you overlevel)

It should be noted that any character in FFVI can be super powerful if given all the spells in the game and some of the godly equipment, the bad characters listed just require more effort to make them effective compared to the good ones.

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Originally Posted by Andex

Celes:
Equipped
Primary Weapon: Atma Weapon
Primary Shield: Aegis Shield
Helmet: Genji Helm
Armor: Genji Mail
Relic: Offering
Relic: Genji Glove
Aditional Information / Personal Notes:
Primary melee attacker. Using Atma Weapon combined with the power of Offering and Genji glove, gives Celes the lethal melee power hitting an opponet very hard; and many times.

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Why give her the Genji Glove if she's not going to be equipping two weapons? :O_O:

Other than that, nice list.